How fast will DVD writers get??

[disturbed1]

Wow, I do love forums and all the knowledge you gain from them....

The whole reason for my question is that I have 2 young children and would like to backup some dvd kids movies but still retain all the original features of the original dvd..

I just don't want to buy a 4x writer today and have a 8x, 12x or 16x come out the next day for a couple of bucks more. When I buy a writer I want it to be the "right" one for my needs and not be functionally obsolete a week later...

Using that logic to gauge your purchase when dealing with technology, you would end up not buying anything, because the next best thing is always just around the corner.

When I purchased my first DVD burner in 2001, it was $802. The Pioneer A03 only burns at 2x with media but mostly 1x. Had I of waited watied for the next burner, I'd still be waiting today for the A07.

I now own 4 Panasonic LF-D311s (also 1x), and 3 Pioneer A05s. My A03 is still going strong, and gets used everyday at 1x writing speed.

In short, even though 16x and dual layer are around the corner, if you need/want to burn today, go for it. No matter the writing speed, even 4x burning only takes 15minutes for a full disc.

If you compare CD burners, I have both an 8x burner, and a 4x burner, neither are obsolete today.

[energy80s]

I think rather than speed, the next interesting deveolpment will be dual layer burning. I honestly didn't think this would be possible (burning the second layer would erase the first) but apparently it will be with us next year.

[Wetmonkey]

hey all;
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[mikesbytes]

They say the most dangerous part of a car is the nut behind the steering wheel.

If you are planning to burn DVD's of the kids, then you may well spend say 8hours caputuring, editing and authoring, then say 20 minutes burning, ie 8H20m. With the faster burner due in the shop "real soon" your DVD may take 8H10m.

[lordsmurf]

CD burns at CAV, which starts slow in the beging, then faster at the end. DVD is CLV, starts at one speed, ends at the same speed. With a constant burning speed.

I'll look at this more.

What I was getting at, according to something I read not too long ago, was that physics dicates either the inner (or outer) actually moves at an apparent rate faster than the other. While CLV means the laser moves at the same speed, and CAV speed up or slows down, that's not the issue. In fact, I was under the understanding that CAV was invented to combat this little piece of science. I'll have to look up that info again.

My drives are fine.

[Vanderlow]

Here's what CDfreaks had to predict:

Computex report about the trends in the DVD burner market
Posted by Johnny on 26 September 2003 - 11:04 - Source: PCWelt.de


The German website PCWelt.de has posted a report from the Computex show in Taipei with interesting information about coming DVD writers. Here is a short summary of their article in English:


The DVD+R/RW format is likely to become the dominating format in 2004 according to most drive and media manufacturers.

Lite-On will introduce an 8x DVD writer, the LDW-811S, in late October. A 12x model could follow as early as in the end of Q1 2004.

AOpen will introduce a 12x DVD+R/RW writer in the beginning of 2004.
16x writers could appear in 2004 and will be the max speed for DVD burners.

CMC, Ritek and an unnamed Japanese manufacturer will start mass production of 8x DVD+R media in mid October.

Sony has developed a dual layer DVD+R blank but it will likely never reach production stage because the drives needed to burn it will be too expensive.

http://www.cdfreaks.com/news/8051

[disturbed1]

CD burns at CAV, which starts slow in the beging, then faster at the end. DVD is CLV, starts at one speed, ends at the same speed. With a constant burning speed.

I'll look at this more.

What I was getting at, according to something I read not too long ago, was that physics dicates either the inner (or outer) actually moves at an apparent rate faster than the other. While CLV means the laser moves at the same speed, and CAV speed up or slows down, that's not the issue. In fact, I was under the understanding that CAV was invented to combat this little piece of science. I'll have to look up that info again.

My drives are fine.

I wasn't talking about your drives Just something for other people, some seem to have a problem of starting fast, then slowing down.

Report back on your findings about the CLV and CAV, I'd like to know more about it too.

[tgm4883]

the outer edge of a disk moves faster than the inner edge of the disk because the outer edge has to go farther. It has to do with distance and circumference.

[lordsmurf]

the outer edge of a disk moves faster than the inner edge of the disk because the outer edge has to go farther. It has to do with distance and circumference.

Physics and geometry... that's what I was looking for...

At any rate, this is part of limits you to faster speeds and why a 16x CD-R and a 52 CD-R are only a minute or two apart in speed.

Maybe it's that the 4x DVD-R burn STARTS at 4.3x and slow down to about 2x or 1x by the end. My source had his info flipped. This makes more sense actually.

Multiple lasers and new ways to spin are the only way to fix this. But even that brings in new problems with heat and accuracy.

[videobruce]

My predictions on DVD Writing Speeds:

2004: 12X
2005: 16X
2006: Blue Laser
2007: Dual layer DVD
2008: Dual Layer Blue Laser
2009: The Death of Blue Laser
2010: Terabyte hard drive implants to your cochlea
2011: An inner ear infection
2012: Various STD's
2013: Man and Machine meld together
2014: Machine kills man
2015: Machine goes back to 8-tracks

I love it............

I would rather predict that 78rpm records take over!

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