if PAL is better, why does the PAL equipment/media suck ?

[Amaro]

isn't NTSC better with it's higher framerate??
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[Colindale]

"Duchess"

??Yes we may get more money but our costs are very much higher ??

That's why I moved to Australia, to sunny Queensland to be correct.

Sounds like the Northern Hemisphere has gone to the dog's.

[Dragonsf]

isn't NTSC better with it's higher framerate??
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You get only benefits (if ever) from a higher framerate, if the footage was shot with that framerate.As most movies were/are done with 24fps, you have to fake around 6 frames per second to get 30fps.This is not better (I believe it's worse) than fake jsut 1 frame per second.

[minchjp]

I too live in the USA but being a horror/cult/exploitation film fan I have bought many PAL VHS videos over the years.

I don't know why (well censorship or rather lack thereof) but many of the PAL VHS videos I have are either Dutch or Greek. I also have some from the UK as well as Austraila.

They are all utter crap. Poor transfers ... cheap blank tape ... you name it.

Even when the transfer does seem to be good there is always a problem with the signal being poor (crappy blank tape).

They can't begin to compare to US made NTSC VHS videos.

I also have a lot of NTSC Japanese VHS videos. These things put USA NTSC VHS to shame for the most part. I'd say here in the USA we didn't start to catch up to Japanese NTSC VHS quality until maybe the mid to late 1990's

Now ... one would think that the switch to digital (bascially I'm talking DVD here) would have improved things and to an extent it has but it is rare that I come across a PAL DVD that was as good a "print" (film-to-video transfer) as a USA NTSC DVD.

Now most of the PAL stuff I have comes from smaller less known labels than say WARNER BROS or COLUMBIA TRI-STAR or MGM or UNIVERSAL etc. but they don't own anywhere near the number of films *I* watch. Most of my video collection is made up of films released on non hollywood big budget labels.

So perhaps the newest DVD of say the newest HIT movie such as MATRIX RELOADED might look just as good on USA NTSC as UK PAL since it would be a major brand new STUDIO release ... OK ... but just about ALL of the PAL VHS and yes even PAL DVD I have are crappola.

So whenever PAL people say that PAL is better ... I take it they have very few USA NTSC material for comparrison OR they don't have the proper technology to watch it on (say perhaps the popular PAL TV that converts NTSC to PAL 60 thus loosing quality etc.)

- John "FulciLives" Coleman

I have MANY Region 1 and Region 4/2 transfurs of the same film, and ALL of the NTSC (Never The Same Colour) look like SH|T (in comparison). My dvd player outputs a signal which is NTSC to my tv, which can display NTSC, and it still looks lilke sh|t. NTSC is jerky, PAL is not. NTSC is less difined, and PAL looks sharp and crisp.

Do ur reasearch A$S HOLE

[energy80s]

That's why PAL just speeds up the film from 24 to 25 fps. The whole idea of adding frames is just daft. Why do you think that HDTV is going progressive scan? Interlaced pictures gives more fluidity to movement, but adding lots of duplicate frames doesn't.

In all seriousness, with its bad frame rate, poor colour response and low resolution I can't find a single positive thing to say about NTSC.

[minchjp]

isn't NTSC better with it's higher framerate??
8)

You get only benefits (if ever) from a higher framerate, if the footage was shot with that framerate.As most movies were/are done with 24fps, you have to fake around 6 frames per second to get 30fps.This is not better (I believe it's worse) than fake jsut 1 frame per second.

Actually, You don't have to fake any frames with a PAL transfur, with the 4% increase in speed.

[minchjp]

That's why PAL just speeds up the film from 24 to 25 fps. The whole idea of adding frames is just daft. Why do you think that HDTV is going progressive scan? Interlaced pictures gives more fluidity to movement, but adding lots of duplicate frames doesn't.

In all seriousness, with its bad frame rate, poor colour response and low resolution I can't find a single positive thing to say about NTSC.

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I can. No increace of speed, no change in pitch

thats it!

[energy80s]

Not much of a positive there!!