Can't rip self authored DVDs? Tried Decrypter & Shrink.

[spmc]

I have some home video footage that I edited and authored myself awhile back using Ulead Movie Factory. I now need copies, but have been unable to rip the disks. I have tried DVD Decrypter and I get I/O errors after a few minutes of ripping. I have tried to 'Ignore' and 'Retry' the errors but it still will not complete the rip. I have also tried DVDShrink but it gives 'Read' errors after a few minutes and halts the rip. Any ideas, setting adjustments or tweaks that might help me get these disks copied? I just downloaded the newest version of Decrypter while looking for some tips, (I was using v2.6) might this help?

[Gees]

Why are you ripping? Just copy the files intact from the DVD to your harddrive.

[spmc]

A-ha, perhaps a classic case of not seeing the forest through the trees! It has become so automatic to rip and burn, rip and burn, rip and burn, that I failed to see the other options.
Let me make sure I follow. Am I to copy contents to a Video folder on my HD then burn that folder to disk?
Thanks

[Gees]

Yes - :c) this is all so complicated, we tend to assume everything will be :c)

Yes - just copy the entire VIDEO_TS folder into a new folder on your HD.

IF your DVD does not include an empty AUDIO_TS folder, create one where you've stored the new copy. It is part of the specs which, evidently, some players need.

If it does include it, just copy that over too.

You should be able to reburn that as many times as you need. :c)

[FOO]

It's not a forest or trees , your hardware can't read that disk

Try it in the burner

[Gees]

Oh. :co Is the original disc not even playable on your PC?

Foo beat me to it with the answer. :c)

[spmc]

The disks are almost perfect with only a couple of faint scratches. The original disks are play perfect in both PC and stand alone player. They just give errors when trying to rip to HD.

[Gees]

How did just trying to copy it go?

[Gurm]

See how just copying it goes.

Odds on are the media isn't real good (I don't know though, so if you're already using Riteks don't flame me) and these programs are having a hard time reading it in RAW mode. Try reading in COOKED mode (by just copying the files to the HDD), and next time use good media.

If you can't read it at all - it might be the reader... or the media.



- Gurm

[FOO]

Damned good idea . Put the DVD on the stove for a while to loosen up
those bits.

[hothandiman]

spmc, if a straight copy to the hard drive does not work, try smart ripper. This has worked for me where decypter has failed--and vise virsa! Good luck.

[Gurm]

hhm,

While that's a fine suggestion - normally - I think that if he can't read by copying to the hard drive, he should look at media and his drive.

- Gurm

[spmc]

Well, I tried to copy directly to the hard drive and it failed. I got the following error message after a few minutes; 'Cannot Copy VTS_01_2: Invalid MS-DOS Function'
I don't know if that clues anybody as to where the problem could be? It doesn't mean anything to me.
There has been mention of poor quality media. Could be. These disks were burned over a year ago, when I thought a DVD was a DVD was a DVD. Now I know better. Curious that they will playback fine though.

[hothandiman]

Another thought. Do you have both a DVD ROM and a DVD burner? Try switching drives. Also, give smart ripper a shot.

[Gurm]

Playback is different. Playback involves spinning the drive at 1X and getting data off it in "cooked" mode. Audio CD's, for example, will play back even when scratched so badly that their data can no longer be accurately read.

That "MS-DOS error" nonsense is the same as a CRC failure.

- Gurm

[Jukka]

@Gees

Not wishing to start a fight, BUT the AUDIO_TS folder is NOT required for a DVD-VIDEO compliant disc.

AUDIO_TS is part of the DVD-AUDIO spec, any player that insists on it is not adhering to the specs. Adding it shouldn't make any difference, infact anything (programs, documents, etc.) can be added at the root level, just as long as the VIDEO_TS is there and compliant a DVD player SHOULD play it.

Jukka

[Gees]

IF your DVD does not include an empty AUDIO_TS folder, create one where you've stored the new copy. It is part of the specs which, evidently, some players need.

I could see being picky about it if it required more than 2 second's work. It doesn't. No harm in adding it.

[hothandiman]

When I do not burn an AUDIO_TS folder, it will NOT play in my JVC player. And no, it is not a DVD Audio player. This has been discussed many times on this forum.

[Gees]

Thank you! :c)

[FOO]

Jukka,
I wanna see the spec. you know where there is one ?

[hothandiman]

Good point, Foo. If it is not in the spec, then why do all of my originals that I backup have AUDIO_TS folders?

[Gees]

Well, thanks - both of you. I'll tell you, on a bad day I could start to get a complex around here. :c*

[FOO]

I know where there is one. I just dont have an extra $5000.00
loose at the moment.

[Gees]

And if you did? Is that really what you'd spend it on? :cD

[MachineMan]

Use DVDdecryptor in ISO mode. Read/Copy to Iso file on your hard drive then reverse the process by writing the ISO file to the blank media. I have done this to copy some DVD's I authored with Movie Factory. It works fine.

[MOVIEGEEK]

Have you enabled "Fast Error Skip" in DVDDecrypter.If that doesn't work and your DVD-ROM is working properly my guess is the disk is damaged.

[Thorn]

spmc - have you tried to just play the movie in your pc using dvd player software? I don't know if it would try to read differently, but it might shed some light.

Other than that, have you tried a different DVD drive? Maybe a friend's? It's possible that different brands will be more fault tolerant.

[Jukka]

@Gees

try:

http://www.disctronics.co.uk/downloads/downloads_dvd.htm

and look at the Introduction To DVD document + others. Some very useful info in general about DVD.

Also, if the AUDIO_TS folder is required why doesn't my copy of The Matrix (PAL) have one?

Granted some players may require it, but I can't vouch for players that don't follow the specs properly. Also if they all followed the specs properly we wouldn't be having all these discussions about which brand of disc and which format to use. I'm new to burning and (luckily) have never burn't a coaster yet.

I never have a problem with not using an AUDIO_TS folder, other people do, c'est la vie?

Anyway lets return to the post and help this guy get his VOBs off the disc,

Jukka

[lordsmurf]

Try to get ISO Buster to recover the data.

[spmc]

Thanks to everybody for all the input and help.
I have tried just about all of the tips and tricks suggested here but no success yet.
I have tried to read/rip with both my read and burn drives, with different rippers and various settings. I have tried to copy to HD. The disk will play in my set top player and in both my computer DVD drives but will not copy or rip to the HD. I have yet to try ISO Buster but I will look into that and post again if I find any solution.
Thanks again everybody.