Thinking about the Canopus ADVC-50/100

[fourthquark]

Oops - unintentinal smiley in my preceding post - I meant to say "dee-eight".

[Will Hay]

Oops - unintentinal smiley in my preceding post - I meant to say "dee-eight".

Yep, that sure is a bugger, ain't it, when you type (D8) in brackets
Oops, shit!
W.

[Will Hay]

Anyone any thoughts as to how I might find out which of the older models have passthrough?
I've searched ebay already and none are specific enough in their descriptions.
I figure if I know a handful of model numbers which were right for me I could search from there.
Will

[fourthquark]

Do a forums search for "pass-through". There are several threads.

[vhelp]

First I will always say, "there is nothing better than an Analog Capture
process (vs. DV) when dealing w/ output quality!!" And, I keep my Analog cards
close by, ready for anything.

Now..

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I don't see how the camcorder could be put thru any strain by doing this. A canopus 50 will cost you about $180 here in the US. A nice low end used camcorder will cost less than this or a little bit more if you want something a little bit better

You guys keep talking about the ware like it's nothing. Oh, but it is!!

You're forgetting:

* The amount of heat these units create when on.
* the motors that spin these mechanisms (flywheels and rutters etc)
...where'as, the ADVC has none :P
* The electronics (thought they might not pose any serious thret)
* The 2" tv screen (heat, ware in flipping out/in)
* Buttons on the unit (constant pressing, and some are worse to deal with)
* Ware and tare on pluging and unpluging the: firewire cable (mine is
...def.'tly showing ware, not to mention no more snug fit, thanks to my
...constant unpluging it for other uses etc etc.
* And more..

The pass-through was ment as an option, but not to be used constantly
day in and day out or whatever. But, thats what the ADVC is for!!

I would not use my 2nd DV cam (TRV22) for anything else but footage, and
then firewire of the footage, but NOT for it's PASS-THROU, though I have
checked it out, and don't recommend it for other external sources like
VCRs and Cable and Satellite, cause the color loss is a bit more noticable
then when your take footage (which is more natural, and uncompressed (not
mpeg2'ed etc))

Get the ADVC-100 and be done w/ ANY issues you might think forth with.
I've had mine for at least a year, and I REMEMBER how ignorent I was
too, about such nonsense as the above (pass-through) and ware'n tare etc.
Not to mention quality issues w/ DV ie, color washout, of which I had suffered
from my previous Canon ZR-10 DV CAM, of which I was using souly for (as a)
mini TIVO, as I refered to it then (and still do) I by-passed the DV thing
from this ZR-10 and went w/ the S-Video Analog Capture card route and got
much better quality fromt his process. But, this was a different time (era)
and things were different then. If anything, this older process would only
serve as a backup process (if all else had failed)

If you want to backup/archiving (or do your your VCR hobbies) w/ a new gizmo,
the ADVC-100 (imo and personal experience) would be the utimate in choice.
Oh, and final choice of today's technological devices to date. Granted, you
won't get as good (quality wise) source as you would in an Analog Capture
route, but the next (and closest) thing to it.. no audio sync and no frame
drops for those TWO obvious and most common of issues in todays video
endeavors. You can't go wrong. If you don't mind the slightest (and I mean
the slightest) in output quality, and especially for VHS sources, then the
ADVC-100 is it.. 2nd to one. The ADVC out-weights the Analog Capture route's
frame drops and audio sync isuses (at least for most peoples out there)
I prefer the Analog route, especially for VHS projects, but would rather not
have to put up w/ the above two most common issues :P

If you do end up getting the cheaper of the ADVC's sooner or alter, you'll
show signs of regret about not getting the higher model and spending the
higher dollars. I wouldn't dramatise this for any other reason, but in this
case, I make such an occasion because it's so true. I know monies tight,
and all, but somehow, you just have to find a way to dodge the misses
this one time, and just remember to sweet-talk her every hint you perceave

This is as top of the line as you're gonna get in price for today (still)

A Note...
Always remember, that when using the ADVC-100, that it's ALWAYS Butt field
first.. know matter what your source is (satellite, cable, dv, VHS etc)

Good luck on your final decision :P
-vhelp

[Will Hay]

That's a superb post vhelp, thanks, I'm very grateful
Thanks for the tip on the field oder, sounds common sense when you hear it but I would have made the mistake
I've made up my mind although I may yet go for the ADVC-50, I don't need to worry about macrovision or outputting back to tape, but if I can squeese the cash, I'll gof ro the 100.
Thanks again,
Will

[vhelp]

That's a superb post vhelp,

no problem will_hay

whatever card your in the ADVC line, I'm sure you'll like it (at least) for its
quality :P

You'll have lots of fun, and less hair-pulling ( assuming you don't have any
firewire issues )

Good luck my friend, and join the ADVC croud :P
..and don't forget to add your comments under the Capture Cards
-vhelp

[Will Hay]

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no problem will_hay

I'm guess there's a joke there but I don't get it

You'll have lots of fun, and less hair-pulling ( assuming you don't have any
firewire issues )

Yeah, I've read a little about this, something to do with conflicting hardware, right?
What do you make of the ADVC-100and SP1?

Good luck my friend, and join the ADVC croud :P
..and don't forget to add your comments under the Capture Cards
-vhelp

Thanks, and yes, I will
Will

[rhegedus]

Yeah, I've read a little about this, something to do with conflicting hardware, right?
What do you make of the ADVC-100and SP1?

I went over to the dark side (XP Pro) from W2K about a month back and havn't had any problems. I did download every single update though (ahhhh, the beauty of broadband!).