I have a Asus P4P800 Deluxe MB and what I would like to do is to have my DVD-Rom, CD/RW, and DVD/RW drives all connected to my Mother Board. I previously had only my DVD-Rom and CD burner connected to the secondary IDE channel and had an external DVD burner. Now that I recieved my internal NEC DVD burner, I disconnected my CD burner and placed the NEC there. My question is "How would I go about having all 3 connected?". I dont know if some of you may mention this but I'll say it in advance, the reason I dont have it connected as a slave to my primary IDE channel is because I was told that it is not wise to have a hard drive and an optical drive on the same channel. But if you think otherwise, let me know what you think.
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Originally Posted by lordsmurf
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I was looking at some at Newegg.com but it seemed that they were all for hard drives. Could be wrong though.
SLICK RICKOriginally Posted by lordsmurf -
bugster,
I think this is what I need.
http://www.siig.com/products/ide/features/Ultra_ATA133PCIv2.html
SLICK RICKOriginally Posted by lordsmurf -
Not trying to be ignorant here, although that solves my problem (I was already considering that option), I am curious to know if I can achieve this with my mother board only.
SLICK RICKOriginally Posted by lordsmurf -
Originally Posted by SLICK RICK
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I also have 2 Raid connectors, but correct me if I am wrong, they are only to be used with hard drives. But is there a way to use them as additional IDE connectors?
SLICK RICKOriginally Posted by lordsmurf -
Originally Posted by SLICK RICK
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So, it would be alright to use the primary and secondary IDE connectors for optical drives, and use the primary and secondary raid connectors for the hard drives. I already have two 200GB hard drives on the primary raid connector. So should I move it to the secondary and then move my C: drive to the master position on the primary raid connector. After doing this, will windows still boot up correctly?
SLICK RICKOriginally Posted by lordsmurf -
If I undertsand you correctly, just leave your HD on the Raid connectors and put the optical drives however you want/need them, on the other IDE connectors.
From what I know of onboard Raid solutions (not too much I admit), you get 2 'normal' ide connectors (use these for your optical drives), and 2 'RAID' IDE connectors. These should operate as normal IDE connectors if you want them too, just don't install the RAID drivers. If you want RAID, and Raid 0 does help performance in disk heavy situations, then you can do that too.
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But if I dont install the raid drivers then the MB does not even recognize that it has 2 additional connectors. It shows up in my device manager as "SCSI and RAID controllers".
SLICK RICKOriginally Posted by lordsmurf -
Originally Posted by SLICK RICK
If you do, no problems that I can see.
If you don't, well, why did you buy this mobo in the 1st place? Anyway, install the raid drivers and see if you can put 1 HD on each of the two raid connectors. This is using the raid drivers but without raid features. I don't know your exact mobo so can't say if this will work. But why not go with Raid anyway. -
Originally Posted by bugster
http://usa.asus.com/products/mb/socket478/p4p800-d/overview.HTM
SLICK RICKOriginally Posted by lordsmurf -
Sorry if I came across pissed or anything, it was not intended. When I say I don't know your mobo, I mean I don't have personal experience of using it, not that you havn't told me which one it is. Seems to be a little misunderstanding between us here, so easy to do when communicating online, sorry for that.
I know you want to add a third optical drive to your mobo, but am still not 100% sure of your current setup. Is it something like this:
Boot HD (Con Master Ide controller
2 Optical drives on secondary Ide controller
2 HD in Raid (0 0r 1) on 1 of the 2 IDE Raid connectors.
The only mobo I have ever owned which had onboard raid (a Promise chipset I think it was) allowed the Raid connector to be used as normal IDE channels if you wanted. It had its own Raid Bios where this could be configured. If yours allows this, then simply use the 2nd Raid connector for your third optical drive and away you go. -
bugster,
I figured you did not intend to come off in that way. You are exactly right in your assumption on my setup. This is the first system that I have ever built (just finished about a month ago) so forgive me if I dont understand some of the things you may mention. I guess what it is all getting down to is can the raid controllers act as additional IDE controllers or can I have my C: drive connected to one of my raid controllers so that I can use both of my IDE controllers for optical drives only. Right now I am not even sure what kind of raid I am using. I have my two 200GB hard drives connected to the primary raid connector, but I use them as 2 seperate hard drives. On the secondary raid connector I have nothing connected.
SLICK RICKOriginally Posted by lordsmurf -
Originally Posted by SLICK RICK
In that case, plug your 3rd optical drive into the second raid connector and everything should be fine. If for some reason the raid channels won't handle an optical drive, plug your C: drive in here and your 3rd optical drive in to the newly freed connector. -
bugster,
Thats what I did, I connected my third optical to my secondary raid controller and it did not recoginize it at all. So, should I try it like this,
primary IDE= masterVD-Rom..............slave
VD burner
secondary IDE= master:CD burner
primary Raid= master: C: drive
secondary Raid= master: 200GB HD..........slave:200GB HD
Does this look like it will work?
SLICK RICKOriginally Posted by lordsmurf -
OK, will try and let you know how it goes.
SLICK RICKOriginally Posted by lordsmurf -
Well it worked, but I recieved a message stating something like " The number of times you are allowed to install XP has been exceded" and that I need to enter a new product key. But this is the only computer that I have installed xp with that disc. So now I have to contact microsoft for a new product key.
SLICK RICKOriginally Posted by lordsmurf -
Yep, but its finished now. Contacted M$ and recieved a new number.
Thanks bugster.
SLICK RICKOriginally Posted by lordsmurf -
If you don't want to worry about that number of install limit, use Norton Ghost or some similar utility to make a backup right after you activated windows. As long as you do not drastically change the hardware, it will work fine if you ever want a fresh install. You will not need to reactivate.
What I do is have one backup of a non-updated install (nothing more done than an install from CD) and one current backup. Every month or so, I will reload my current backup, update all the programs, then back it up. That way, I always have a fresh install of Windows ready when needed.
In essence, that current backup is what my computer would be like if I installed from CD then ran all the available updates. Saves lots of time."A beginning is the time for taking the most delicate care that the balances are correct."
- Frank Herbert, Dune
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