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    Want to know if the individuals that have had problems with DVD Labels are you using the Labels that cover all the way to the edge of the center hole or are you using the Labels that cover up to the beginning of the center hub?

    Also same question to those that it does work for with no playback problems, Which ones do you use?

    My theory, along with Media Brand Quality Disks, is that the labels that cover up to the edge of the center hole cause problems as it may not allow the player to grip the dvd tight enough since it is now pressing against paper as apposed to the dvd plastic. It may be slipping and that is why you get get pauses and pixelation
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  3. I think you may well find that it's a case of the label unbalancing the disc so that uit wobbles in the player. Personally I don't use any labels so that I shan't have just the sort of problem you are experiencing, it also reduces wear on the mechanisms because of uneven rotation putting a strain on the bearings.
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    i use dcdata glossy cd labels and have never had a problem wether i put them up to the centre hole or just to the edge of the hub
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    I have been labeling my CDs since 3 years ago and my DVDs since January. I have never had any problem with any of the labeled disks.
    Problems - that I didn't have - include disk unbalancing, label sticking out and playback stability problems.

    I have used only high quality labels (branded not unbranded). Have used Avery/Zweckform ones, both full face ones and the normal ones leaving a large hole in the middle.

    Have used both the normal paper ones and the thicker, glossy-inkject ones with equal success.

    The trick - I imagine - for not having troubles is how well the label is applied. Hand applied labels are out of the question. I have a nice little device with a large rod that allows the label to be placed and centered precicely over the disk. Once applied, I carefully apply pressure across the surface with my thumb to make sure that the contact is perfect and permanent.

    I have found that some disks make better surfaces than others for a permanent fix of the label. The current TDK DVD surfaces are the best while the white printable Verbatims I tried are the worst. Also, the plain paper adhesives are better because the paper is thinner and the adhesive appears to be stronger.

    I have also tried another type of label. Transparent inkjet ones (full face). They have a perfect adhesive paste and are also very reflective glossy. The only trouble is that you need a white surface for them - either a white disk or any disk to which a plain paper label is first applied.
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    I assume you've read the other posts on this issue. After reading, my opinion is there is another variable - perhaps environmental.

    I live in a dry, high-altitude environment, and have never had one issue. In addition to DVD backup for me and my entire family, I also convert VHS tapes to DVD for these same people. All in all, I've put close to 100 labels so far - all have played fine - in several different players.

    Other people (who post here), they put in a DVD, and 5 mins after playing it, it's already bubbling up, destroying thier DVD player.

    I know for a fact that prescription drugs have expiration dates based on high-humidity, sea-level environments. Where I live, it's common knowledge among the medical profession that the expiration dates are almost meaningless as the vast majority of drugs can greatly outlast the expiration date in dry, high altitude climates.

    I would be interesting to conduct a pole of climates the DVD problems occur in.

    BTW - I don't post freqently, so I guess I'm being rather ignorant, but I couldn't figure how to vote on this - I use labels that go to the beginning of the center hub, no further.
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    Originally Posted by lordsmurf
    The best DVD label is none at all.
    Or one that is printed onto the surface (of a printable DVD blank).

    But then, I used to use metal foil labels and never had a problem.
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    Ive only used the labels on a few dvd-r's and with labels that cover the entire DVD with no playback problems, I was just wondering if the problem other people have is because the center hub should really be left with nothing on it so that the player grips it better since, like Duchess said, the label adds more weight, it could cause the player to not grip it properly....hence slipping of the disc to spin correctly, unbalancing can occur. I have opened my DVD player to see how easy a DVD with a full DVD label covering the center hub slips on the DVD clamp and it slips alot easier then a DVD without a label covering the Hub.

    I dont know I dont have Labels on my Backups for the reason since I dont want to take a chance.
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  9. I decided not to take any chances on labels, so I went the stencil and marker route.

    Now if I could only draw!
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    Originally Posted by andkiich
    I decided not to take any chances on labels, so I went the stencil and marker route.

    Now if I could only draw!
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    I use Neato full coverage DVD labels on a JVC DVD player with no problems whatsoever. The cd labeling package I use is called "After Burner" by Avery. The software is called MediaFace.
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    For $150-$199, you can purchase the fairly new Epson 900 Photo printer, which comes standard with an adapter to print directly on the CD-DVD surface. If you have more $$$, you can grab a used Primera Signature printer that is dedicated to this type of function (just missed one on eBay for $140 - blast).

    Yes, this does require media that can be printed on, but no more label issues. I haven't done a price comparison yet -- I think it really depends on the quality of the final product needed.
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    Or if you are skilled with tools, click the links in my signature. Much cheaper than the Epson 900, and the 640 is just as good quality, also the easiest to make. The lexmark is a cheap POS, but it will get the job done.
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  14. Just use hub labels.

    1.) Very safe. The label is center to the disk, so less wobble.
    2.) Clean Text. Yes the text is small,but better than any hand writting.
    3.) CHEAP. 520 for 10.00
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  15. Hmmm... I was wondering about a DVD Label Situation and I ran across a thread that was recommending myler labels. When given DVDs out has gifts I sure would like to have a nice label on it. I have read about issues with the paper labels. Heat causing clue issues and wobble effects.

    Any thought on Myler Labels in the group? Anyone give them a try?
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  16. These DVD's that you are giving out are non copywrited material right?
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  17. Yes.. as in home movies.. Unless I decide to copyright them myself.

    Just to be clear, they are not copyrighted material though the question was regarding the use of Myler labels. They sound good but I was courious if anyone was using them.
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  18. This is a topic that I'm also very interested in figuring out. Since February, I've created over 200 dvd's. I've labeled all of themn using MediaFace software (Awesome) fellowes 2up dvd labels(not all the way to the hole), and a fellowes stomper applicator. Recently, I've discoverd many of the discs skip, freeze, and then stop I've determined that this is most likely due to the poor media I initially used (Princo! I should have listened to the detractors in the first place) Yet, I'm still trying to further troubleshoot this problem. I really think it's okay to label your discs, and that any playback issues is due to the quality of the dvds, imho.
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    Yes.. as in home movies.. Unless I decide to copyright them myself.
    Actually, they are copyrighted material -- copyright attaches to the work at the moment of creation, so legally they became (C) to you the moment you recorded the video. Registering your copyright with the appropriate gov't agency in whatever country you live in is just a formality -- albeit a potentially important one if you ever think you might have to defend your copyright in court, since registration gives you a legal document to back up your claim of creation time/date in a dispute.

    Returning to the original topic -- I've put labels on all of mine. The labels I use are CD Stomper, standard matte finish... never a problem. My playback problems have been more due to cheap media going south on me, and I've learned my lesson on that score. I will never buy Fry's "Great Quality" house brand again.
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    Following my post over the weekend re skipping (and therefore labels), I have proven that - using the labels and media I have - labels cause the program to stick in most (pc and desktop) players.
    I thought a good idea would be just to label the hubs - this seems to be ok in my circumstances but having read the posts is clearly not a good idea (ignorance eh?!).
    Out of interest - I am just a mile from Land`s End, Cornwall - in fog and drizzle, and where cobwebs grow at a foot an hour so the humidity/damp issue may well apply !
    All very interesting - and thanks to all for solving my problem (and introducing more !!)
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    I used to use the sticky face labels with very mixed results and since i have gone to inkjet I have yet to have one failure in the past 12mths. Sticky face labels suck!
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    I quite labeling when noticed it was not worth the money spent for my own personal DVDs. If you add the cost of the label/inkjet and what it costs to purchase a blank it's really not worth it. I went to using a marker for a long time and recently started using the Casio CW-75. Nothing fancy...just title, year made, rating, director and stars on my labels. Same concerns with CD's.
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  23. How about a poll based on problems seen using DVD+R vs. DVD-R?

    It seems to me that most failures happen when using DVD-R. I use DVD+R and have never seen a problem with labeling the disks. I also live a mile above sea level with next to no humidity .
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