Dual Layer DVD+R

[PhilipL]

Withdrawn

[tompika]

Exactly as you say Philip.

But first I'd like to see some A07 on the shelves
and write a regular 4xDVD-R at 8xspeed (CLV please)

Could you please answer my question here
https://www.videohelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=669774#669774

Thanks

tom

[kabanero]

PhilipL,

When are you going to stop spreading your Pioneer BULL SHIT on the forums????

[kamuixtv]

Hi

I want to see a link on pioneers page like the one Philips has.

Give it a chance; these things get leaked before any web developer/administrator is able to update the site! Philips doesn't even have the press release on their news pages yet, only the RW Alliance site is carrying it.

Pioneer are some 3 years ahead in this game than Philips and have unlikely stood still, they are also known not to go in for big marketing gestures or press releases months in advance. +RW was demo'd at trade shows for around 3 years before it made the shops. Mt Rainier has been pushed down our throats for the last 2 years yet hardly any writers support it, yet Pioneer silently launched their latest writer with a Mt Rainier equivalent system with no fanfare! A nice PowerPoint presentation with two people frolicking over a silver disc, and a demo at a trade show are no guarantees of anything happening quickly. At this stage it is all marketing and hot air until it is in the shops.

Regards

Philip

I read somewhere in firmware-flash that Pioneer's dual layer was written on the faq of Pioneer's Aussie website a year ago or so

EDIT: here's the link
http://www.pioneeraus.com.au/multimedia/dvd/dvd-r_faq.htm

Q: Can I use the current model DVD Writers to write to Dual Layer DVD-R's when they become available?

A: The basic technology for Dual layer DVD-R media is still under development so it would be impossible to incorporate this ability into the current model writers as no standards or media exist yet. It could be a few years away. No one knows what will be required to write to dual layer media if and when it appears. There is no doubt that a new drive will be required to write to dual layer DVD-R's.

...duh what is this chrono trigger hehe

[kabanero]

I read somewhere in firmware-flash that Pioneer's dual layer was written on the faq of Pioneer's Aussie website a year ago or so

kamuixtv

Any links, please???????

[tompika]

I read somewhere in firmware-flash that Pioneer's dual layer was written on the faq of Pioneer's Aussie website a year ago or so

Can I use the current model DVD Writers to write to Dual Layer DVD-R's when they become available?
The basic technology for Dual layer DVD-R media is still under development so it would be impossible to incorporate this ability into the current model writers as no standards or media exist yet. It could be a few years away. No one knows what will be required to write to dual layer media if and when it appears. There is no doubt that a new drive will be required to write to dual layer DVD-R's

http://www.pioneeraus.com.au/multimedia/dvd/dvd-r_faq.htm

[kamuixtv]

Come to think of it...Philips, Sony and Pioneer are members of both DVD Groups...chances are they know their "secrets" because their engineers/developers gather on their forums...then why did they arrived on a seperate dual-layer format (again)?

[tompika]

then why did they arrived on a seperate dual-layer format (again)?

Greed

[spath]

> PhilipL,
>
> When are you going to stop spreading your Pioneer BULL SHIT on the
> forums????

Never, he has made the victory of - format his mission in life

[gf]

I thought this was going to be a INFO link on what dvd+r and the dvd-r camp is coming out with. But I guess I'm wrong. Some people respond worst than they killed a persons family member. It is only 2 dvd camps, just like beta and vhs. If you like what you got then great, don't cut down someone elses likes. Just enjoy YOUR EQUIPTMENT and discuss information.

[kabanero]

Pionneer to proceed with dual layer recording
Friday, 3 October 2003

Pioneer Corporation has proceeded to the development of dual layer recording on DVD-R discs.
The first measurements on the two layer DVD-R discs showed that the jitter for the fisrt layer is 9.34%, the reflectivity 17.3%, while the same measurements for the second layer were 8.08% and 19.5%, respectively. Playback compatibility with the current DVD players is expected to be high.

Although the limited information about the technology background, dual layer DVD recording is definitely a major step beyond and expected to boost the sales of DVD writers.

yes gf,

looks like you have very good technic of "copy and paste" from CDRinfo.com in different threads.