How can i burn VCD format onto DVD disc?

[tomping]

How do i burn vcd to a dvd disc so i can watch it on my dvd player?

What programs do i need and stuff like that?

Im glad for any help at all.

[Craig Tucker]

Read here and welcome to the forum

[tomping]

I dont really understand all.
In the first step it says "Use Isobuster to copy all the VCD dat video files"

The files that I have is in avi format, so how do I do to make them into VCD dat files??


This is really complicated

[Craig Tucker]

Well if your files are AVI then they are not in VCD format. Check the guides how to convert AVI to DVD.

[tomping]

ok i looked at the guides avi to dvd and i have already tried that with TMPGenc and changed the avi files to mpeg but then its into dvd format and its a really huge file. I can fit in about five files in one 4,7GB disc.

Can´t i use AVI to VCD guides and after that change it to DVD-VCD and burned it on a dvd-disc so that i can make place for more files on a dvd disc?

Because i want to get more files on one and the same disc if you know what i mean?

[Craig Tucker]

Suggest this one I noticed one of them is a broken link.

[tomping]

I have already used that link and burned out four episodes of a serie. And i was thinking that if i can get in about 2-3 episode of a serie in vcd format on a regular cd-r disc, I can get in alot more episodes on a dvd-r disc

[Craig Tucker]

Just lower the bitrate to a level where you can fit the amount of video you require. Remember though the lower you go with bitrate the more that the quality will suffer. VCD is 1150kbps, if you are using the wizard for DVD then you may well be selecting a value of around 4000kbps this can be reduced.

Also if you are going with a low bitrate it would be a good idea to use a lower DVD compliant resolution such as 352x576 or 352x288. If you use too low a bitrate with full DVD resolution then the picture quality will suffer even more.

PAL

Video:
Up to 9.8 Mbit/sec MPEG2 or up to 1.856 MBit/sec MPEG1 video
720 x 576 pixels MPEG2
704 x 576 pixels MPEG2
352 x 576 pixels MPEG2 (Same as the CVD Standard)
352 x 288 pixels MPEG2
352 x 288 pixels MPEG1 (Same as the VCD Standard)
25 fps (frames/second)

The specs I have given you are for PAL, NTSC is slightly different (see what is DVDR)

[tomping]

So if i use the wizard like i have done before but reduces the bitrate the file will be mush smaller?

When i burned before i think i used 4500 or something for bitrate and the file was about 800-850mb big, but if i use let say 1150kbps the file is much smaller and the pircture quality will be like ordinary vcd standard?

[Craig Tucker]

Correct, reduce the bitrate and the filesize will be reduced. 4500kbps is approx 4 times the size of VCD standard bitrate so the file will be 4 times larger. If you are reducing the bitrate right down to VCD levels then reduce the resolution as well (352x288). If you have full DVD resolution you need a higher bitrate to maintain picture quality. Full resolution DVD (720x576) at 1150kbps will look worse than 352x288 at the same bitrate.

If you are going to change the resolution you may need to cancell out of the wizard and do this manually (depending on your version of TMPGEnc) just make sure you select a DVD compliant resolution.

[tomping]

Now i have some new problems:

The picture is to big. I use Full screen (keep aspect ratio) because i want the file to look the same on the tv as it is on the computer but the picture continues to be a little to big it is very annoying

Do you know what the problem can be?

[Craig Tucker]

If you mean you can not see the very edges of your picture when you play it on your TV, then that is known as overscan and is completely normal.

[tomping]

It may be overscan im not sure what that is.

But when i transforming to mpeg the picture is right but when it iam gonna watch it the pircture is bigger and i can´t se the subtitles.

What do you suggest should i use center (custom size) or custom (keep aspect ratio) or anything else??

and one more thing it may just be my tv but i have tried to make the picture smaller so that i can see everything.
but then the picture drifts to the right for some reason it isnt exactly in the center. what can be the problem??

[Craig Tucker]

OK you need to encode a mask border around the video so that this is what is not seen due to overscan.

Click on settings, in video arrange method select cente (custom size).

Double click on clip frame.

Click on arrange setting.

Then change the pixel values until you have the border that you desire.

[Viper10000]

tomping,

If you convert AVI files with 320x240 resolution to VCD, and since you are using TMPGEnc, you might want to do the following before the conversion:

1. Hit 'Setting' push button on TMPGEnc
2. Select 'Advanced tab'
3. Set the Video Arrange Method to 'Center (keep aspect ratio)'
4. Set Source Aspect Ratio to '1:1 (VGA)'

By doing this, you might see some black borders during play back, but your 320x240 resolution will be preserved.

Since you're going to put this VCD to DVD, you might as well:
1. Select 'Audio' Tab
2. On the frequency drop down list, choose 48000
(Note: if you audio is already 48KHz, don't worry about this step).

Since, your file is a TMPGEnc created file, you might want to consider using TMPGEnc DVD Author to create your DVD. This is just a suggestion. If you're already comfortable with ULead DVD Movie Factory, then use it. IMHO, I think TMPGEnc DVD Author is a better product.

If you want to check out TMPGEnc DVD Author, check out this guide here:

https://www.videohelp.com/forum/userguides/176385.php

Cheers,

[tomping]

ok i will check that out, and im already using TMPGEnc DVD Author its the easiest to use in my opinion.