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    Ok, that was a tough one, needed some searching on the internet. I was toying between From Russia With Love and Thunderball : Matt Munroe / Tom Jones, both of which could have been considered hearthrobs I guess.

    However here is the answer:

    Film - Thunderball,
    Song - Mr Kiss Kiss Bang Bang.

    Just listened to an excerpt of the instrumental at http://www.geocities.com/bsarthun/pthun.html

    As for the other film she sang a soundtrack for, it was Moonraker.

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  2. Good work -- and you should really try and listen to her kick ass version of Mr. Kiss Kiss Bang Bang (I think they should have used it at the end instead of the instrumental -- on my iPod mix of the album that's the way I put it).

    AFAIK it's only available on the 20th Edition Bond Anniversary CD collection, which may not be in print anymore. That collection is worthy for a lot of reasons, not the least is which the huge Thunderball instrumental section that fills in what has been missing for us for 20 years.

    (But can you imagine if that had been the name of "Thunderball"? Ugh -- Brocolli must have been out of his mind for even considering it).
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    Mr Kiss Kiss Bang Bang - yeah I think that would have killed the James Bond series off!!
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    For anyone who is interested I have started a Movie Trivia thread in Off Topic (https://www.videohelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=664083#664083) - please don't post replies to that here.
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    Hi guys.. TGIF to all

    Yeah, I knew I would have a couple of errors in my thread, but heck, it was
    kind'ov late for me, and I can get somewhat excited w/ things that really
    interest me... and the BOND is one of them :P :P

    As I said, my first one was Live and Let Die.. back when I was a child.
    But, I wasn't hooked to them until I got Cable some time in mid 80's, and
    when some stations like TBS got over-kill on some movies, such as those
    Bond flics. I did see them on and off even before the 80's Bond bash, anyways...

    As far as the Music and Theme songs, ..Sheina Easton did at least TWO them songs. ie,
    * For You Eyes Only, and
    * ???

    Sorry for spelling of Sheina's name

    But, as to the Music... imo, then all seem to fit the movies. I don't know...
    I just feel that way. All those theme musics/lyrics are what "helped" to make
    the Bond successfull, AND also, those movies (each one of them) would not
    be or feel right, if the themes were not w/ them.
    Look it Thunderball. What theme.. and even during parts of scenes they
    manage to hint pieces of the theme. That's what makes it Bond'ish feeling.
    How about Man with the Golden Gun.. Ahhh!!
    Or how about Goldfinger.. or how about From Russia w/ Love... or my
    favorite, Diamonds ARE Forever, and also You only Live Twice.. oh man,
    the opening scene to that movie was fantasic, .. oh man.. how about the
    opening for Diamons (again) and how the CAT meaow's during the transition
    of the theme music and how it all clashes together into a sweet Orchestra..
    oh man, I can't get over it hehe hehe... :P
    And, how about Man with the Golden Gun (again) where the compitioner is
    trying to shoot Mr Salimanda (spelling) and the theme pieces are just plain
    awsome!! Then, how they clash it all together into an opening theme !!
    Just plain awsome!! I'm in awl. (spelling)

    We all need to remember, that the musics and their respective "pieces" spun
    into the movie scenes (and at just the right moment in the scenes) were
    what helped to make the Bond movies. (said that twice ) but it's
    true.

    @ energy80s,
    Yea.., I know what you mean about Moonraker. That was one of my favorites
    at the time. But, I think I left out an important (personal) history piece I
    had the pleasure of experiencing.
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    I had brought into the movie thearter a small micro cassette recorder, and
    actaully TAPED THE WHOLE MOVIE "Moonraker". I remember being so
    scared about briniging in the recorder (little bigger than pack of cigarettes)
    and it was something big at that time. Hay, I think I STILL have those tapes too
    So, Moonraker has a special place in me. Because THAT experience created
    a sense of adrenlin (spelling) for me.. my heart rased fast then.
    But, when I brought the tape back home w/ me, and played it, oh man.. it
    was soo cool, and even the sound was like re-living the movie expeirence.
    Well, you had to be their.
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    Also, just to add... it was one of those movies that had a VERY LONG line.
    I remember waiting almost two blocks in line for that movie (and w/ my
    micro cassette tucked away, and my constant anal worry that I would get
    cought)
    Yes, it was an experience never to forget, and will alway hold a place in my
    heart for, too. "..paging Dr. Goodhead" hehe..

    Another thing I was wonderous about, was Maud Adams TWO appears.
    To me, that was something special too. She first stared in Man with the Golden Gun
    and then exited one last time, in Octopussy. But, they left her reason for
    being their a bit of a mystery. I didn't quite get it. But, still, I can't figure
    out WHY they had HER in it TWICE. Must of ben due to an unfortunate issue,
    and she was the replacement ???

    Well, anyways... that was more tid-bits hehe..

    There's so much more, I could go on and on.. but I'll let you all continue w/
    your sharing experiences, because they are interesting to read and learn
    from too.

    Hay all.., have a great "shaken, not stirred" weekend
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  6. I think I can beat anyone, at any time, with their experiences at trying to "capture" Bond films in the theaters.

    Long before video cameras, before even small audio recorders, I snuck a Super 8mm sound movie camera into OHMSS (we're talking circa 1969 or so here). I just *had* to capture certain scenes (only certain ones, because the film reel was only a total of 3 minutes, and it cost what would be the equivilent price today of around $50 to buy and develop it).

    There was one problem with this scheme -- Super 8 sound cameras were not particularly quiet, and in the quiet of the movie theater when that whirring camera came on my friend next to me started yelling in my ear "Everyone is looking at us!" Sure enough, I raised my head from my camera to see the startled faces of the patrons looking back wondering what the hell was going on.

    I ended up with about 20 seconds of footage (it did come out, though). So much for me capturing the experience (about four years later, when I was married and it finally came on television, I actually did make my own kinescope of the film by pointing the Super 8 camera at the TV. Ah, to think that home videotape was only a scant four years away... would have saved me a fortune)
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    1. Sean Connery
    2. Pierce Brosnan
    3. Those other guys

    Sean Connery is James Bond , there is no substitute .

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  8. One thing to remember is that the roles for women became a lot stronger under the "Moore" years.

    Oh, and does anyone know the original title for "License to Kill"???

    [clue] it is uttered in the same sentence in the film as the title [/clue]
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    Sean all the way, but Peirce ain't a bad second.
    Shame about the Remmington Steel story, he'd have been great in those (not too bad) Dalton ones...
    ....but despite being a great actor, poor old Tim just didn't have it.
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  10. Heres my list:

    1. Sean Connery (the original and the best)
    2. Pierce Brosnan (although I didn't like The World is not Enough)
    3. Roger Moore (he was the first Bond I saw plus he had some of the good plots).

    Worst Bond, George Lazenby for sure.

    I don't like the way they are heading with the Bond movies though with the last two being very Hollywood type.
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  11. Great thread guys, even if it doesn't answer how to copy your movie from DVD to VCD

    Sean Connery is always going to be considered the best because he was the first movie Bond.

    I grew up with the Roger Moore Bond, but I always had a problem with his tongue in cheek version.

    George Lazenby is always going to be the odd man out. One movie, great plot. What could he have done with the character if Sean didn't come back?

    Timothy Dalton gets a bad rap. The Living Daylights was a long drawn out boring movie, but he did what he could with it. Licence To Kill was a much better movie and one of the better Bond films, but gets overlooked.

    Pierce Brosnan is a damn good Bond and you'll all miss him when he's gone. He wasn't ready for the part in the 80's, too thin and too pretty. Once he had a few years and a little weight on him, he's now a good fit.
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  12. Sean Connery easy choice. Although the newest bond was actually a pretty damn good movie with Pierce Brosnan I think it was the world is not enough Hallie Berry also help the movie out significantly say at my overall choice is Sean Connery

    Sean Connery is the best bond that we will ever see

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    Just me maybe but, I thought , 'License To Kill' was the worst Bond film ever made. And I can't get into the Pierce Brosnan Bond flicks becasue 'M' is an old woman.
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    In the late sixties Bernard Lee,Who is M, used to drink at the RISING SUN in Isleworth, LONDON (for our US readers), and boy could he drink.
    He had a zillion tales to tell about the Bond movies. For the price of a large scotch he would keep you entertained for hours. Anyway I too think M should NOT be an old lady.
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  15. License to Kill was originally named "License Revoked" after the book (non-Fleming -- um, right off the top of my head I can't remember who wrote the two non-Fleming Bond books, and I really should remember, as he wrote the excellent guide to the Fleming novels. Kingsley Amis, I do believe. But as well as he understood Fleming, he didn't do a very good job continuing the tradition).

    As I remember the story, License Revoked was renamed because it was felt American audiences wouldn't understand the word "revoked." Obviously the producers didn't realize how many rednecks here have lost their driver's license <g>.

    As for the female M (the very excellent Dame Judy Densch (sp)), at first I couldn't stand the whole idea of M being a woman. I grew up with Bernard Lee, he embodied the spirit of the M in the books so well there just wasn't any substitute.

    But I've grown to like the give and take Pierce has with her, and now I think it was a wise move. Let's face it, die hard fans, no male could have lived up to the wonderful Mr. Lee -- it would have been like replacing Sean with Roger Moore :>) But by changing gender they put a whole new dynamic in play that I think has worked out very nice.

    And I also agree with the earlier poster -- while it's a shame that Pierce didn't get Bond when he really wanted it, he wasn't nearly as right for it back then. I actually thought he's been too, well, "pretty" up until the very last one, and now I think he's grown into the role almost perfectly. It's a shame he's leaving when he finally fits the mantle pretty damn well, but OTOH sometimes its better to go out on top. (If only Sean hadn't been talked back into doing "Diamonds" he might have been spared the silly years).
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    I used to like the bond movies when I was younger (10,11,12) but now I just get sick of them. They're all the same. If you haven't seen any yet you should see at least one but after that there is really no point.

    Although Casino Royale isn't like all the other movies that is why Woody Allen/David Niven get my vote
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  17. Originally Posted by mkelley
    License to Kill was originally named "License Revoked"
    Very good! If you ever get to see any of the "Making of" for License To Kill, you'll see the original title on the clapperboard. Also heard that Tomorrow Never Dies was supposed to be called Tomorrow Never LIES, but for a typing mistake at the office! Don't know how true that is though.
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  18. So... since this thread has died down, what do all you chaps (particularly in the Mother Country) think about the new James Bond, Clive Owen?

    According to reports Pierce will announce the next Bond film (untitled) will be his last, and that Clive will take over the role -- after being recommended by Pierce.

    The only thing I've seen Owen is was Gosford Park, in which he was a good actor but hardly Bond material. But you never know -- I'd have to see him in an action film to see (I guess he was in the Bourne Identity but I haven't seen that yet -- better rent the DVD and give it a look).
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  19. Although a fine actor, I would put Clive Owen in the same catagory as Tim Dalton. Not too sure how he will be in the 007 role.
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    Hmmm, I saw him (Owen) in Croupier. May be a "darker" moody/brooding version of James Bond?

    Sort of like a Tim Burton vs. Joel Schumacher vision of Batman.

    Could be interesting.

    Next poll - best Batman! (kidding) :c)
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    The first james Bond was done in 1954 - CBS TV first adapted Casino Royale for an episode of Climax! in 1954, starring Barry Nelson as CIA agent Jimmy Bond

    Casino Royale rights have finally been secured by MGM/EON productions after years and years of trying ...
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  22. Clive Owen is probrably best known in the UK for his role in Chancer.
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    Hi guys

    Thanks CraigTucker..

    I was hoping tha someone whould do the honers and show a pic or link.
    Here it is again.. assuming this is the charater being talked about



    Is this the guy ??
    Looks kind of young, but it could be just a younger pic.

    Anyways.., yeah.. gotta expect some topics to die down, till someone comes
    up w/ something interesting about whatever hehe

    It's a shame that Pierce is stepping down Just when you think you could
    get used to him, he drops out (which by the way, I didn't know)

    Anyone know why he is ??

    ..eveing all,
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    Thanks BJ_M.. my link seems to work and not work at will

    Anyways.. yeah, he looks not bad. but, he's got a hair-line.. which means..
    But, he's got an ok "ruggid" look. He may have potential, if he's really in
    to it all.. the 007 guy, that is.

    I thought James Bond contracts were suppose to be 7 years or 7 clips ??

    Hmmm... I just had a thought..
    Either Roger Moore was soo bored w/ other acting spots that he continued
    doing the James Bond movies, or else he was obligated through contract
    to do all 7 or 8 clips. Or, maybe he just didn't get any other offers to do
    other things, though I do recall he did some in between stuff.. but you gotta
    wonder, he MUST have enjoyed doing them, being that he stared in them
    from 1973 through 1985.

    Hay, I got something interesting, which bugged me for a very long time.
    Member in the last James Bond movie w/ Roger Moore, in the end-credits,
    where it says what the next movie would be ie,

    * James Bond will return in,
    "For Your Eyes Only"
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    ..But, then another movie title was shown, and not the above ??
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    I often wonder if, was it a mistake in the writing of the credit, or typo, or
    they decided on the other story-line, etc.
    I foget the exact movie ending credits, (the above) was posted in.
    Wasn't it "Moonraker" ?? Anyways... this makes a good trivia

    Did anybody else catch this, and also wondered too ??

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    Looking at Amazon, For Your Eyes Only (1981) did indeed follow Moonraker (1979). Before I checked the only thing I thought you might be referring to was that 'Never Say Never Again' may have come out in between, but that wasn't until 1983, by which time Octopussy was out. Followed by A View To A Kill which, as we know, was the last Roger Moore bond.

    So if you did see those credits in Moonraker then they were correct.

    Also if you are in the UK, check out what gets released on 3 Nov - The James Bond Collection Box Set (DVD), all 'official' Bonds from Dr No -> Die Another Day for 150!!! (courtesy of Amazon).
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  27. A couple of things:

    1) Pierce has been saying for quite some time "this" movie would be his last. At one point (fairly early on -- I think it was after Tomorrow Never Dies) he was fed up with the role, wanted out, etc. It may have been a negotiating ploy, or he may have genuinely felt that way, but in any case something significant changed and he suddenly embraced the role and was, indeed, the one to offer to do one more (the producers themselves had decided Die Another Day was to be Pierce's last -- no, there isn't any magic number as to how many they negotiate for. The producers have always signed the new Bond to at least three pictures ever since the debacle with George Lazenby, but after that it's up to negotiation).

    But he's now 50 and thinking himself it's about time to hang the action hero stuff up -- I totally understand this feeling <g>.

    2) There was indeed a "James Bond will return in XXX" where "XXX" turned out not to be the next movie -- damn it, I'll now have to go back and look (and they may have even altered the video, although I kind of doubt it). Because the JB movies typically took (until the 90's) about two years to produce, and since they rarely started on the next one until some time after the last one, they always had to "guess" at which film title they would be doing next. At one point they guessed wrong -- but unless I'm mistaken it happened after they had done all the major novels (so it's definitely possible it happened on Octopussy, since after that was View to a Kill, from the Fleming short story. It was in the book "For Your Eyes Only", which was also a short story made previously before Moonraker, so it could have been there as well. Confused? Yes, and that's probably the same thing that happened to the producers).

    Once they made that faux paux they decided not to be specific about which title was coming next (which is really good since they ran out of books and had to make up titles during Dalton's era). So you can also track it backwards by finding the first time they just say "James Bond will return" (and I think they've even dropped that, as well -- isn't it pretty obvious by now?)
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  28. Oh, and I meant to mention that George Lazenby thing (for those of you younger members).

    George was not the best actor in the world (at the OHMSS premiere Harry Brocolli is quoted as saying "I should have killed him and kept the girl.") but OHMSS did well financially, which begs the question: Why did they fire Lazenby?

    Producers are not well known to upset successful productions, so I truly believe it was due to what happened during the time filming stopped and the publicity for OHMSS began. After he filmed Bond George (who apparently was somewhat of a free spirit) grew a beard and very long hair (not for any film -- he was under exclusive contract back then, as he was a virtual unknown as an actor, only making a brief appearance without any lines in, of all things, a foreign spy film called something like 077. But George was strictly a bit player in that film).

    And he also dressed like Jesus -- no kidding, sandals, long robe, very odd behavior for someone on a publicity tour. I remember seeing him on Johnny Carson in this getup and Carson was just stunned -- here's the new James Bond, and he looks like something out of Greatest Story Ever Told. He then went on to bad mouth Bond, how he thought it was silly and stupid, etc. etc.

    So he gets fired. Well, you *could* make the case that he had already been fired and this was just sour grapes, but I truly don't think so. I think George had some kind of gentle nature inside that made playing Bond truly distasteful to him. I dunno -- I guess we'll never know the true story unless someone can hunt him down and buy him a drink or two.

    Other trivia about George: he did play Bond again -- actually, J.B., a secret agent who makes a brief appearance in Return of the Man From UNCLE (an American TV movie). That's also notable trivia in that the year it was released, '83, was the year that all the people who had ever played Bond in the theatrical movies were playing him again (Moore in Octopussy, Sean in Never Say Never Again). That is, unless, you count the idiots in Casino Royale.
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    Hay guys..

    After re-thinking about it for a while, I believe I now know which Bond movie
    it was, that shows the "For Your Eyes Only" as being the NEXT bond movie
    to follow, during the ending credits..

    Yes, it was actually "The Spy Who Loved Me" that aired that error in the
    ending credits.. and this makes/made sense to me now. Mind you, I'm
    basing this on memory, cause I don't have the movie "The Spy Who.."
    But, those of yous' who have it, PLEASE verify this for me..

    I do know that K-Mart has all the James Bond movies on VHS still. And,
    they were all done in "Digitally Mastered" formta. So, those of yous' on a
    budget, can get this $4.99 and turn up some pretty good looking VHS-DVDR
    projects.. though I WISH they did this VHS's in widescreen, so it would make
    a more "interesting" endeavor.. like the Star Wars..
    Darn, but these are all fullscreen. Yes, they have them all on DVD, but I'm
    aiming at the fun of it all, in making these more compititionally fun projects.
    Who knows.. maybe they'll come out w/ a brief widescreen set of VHS's.
    Anyways...

    Thanks all,
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    poor George Lazenby -- he was in all those nasty (as in BAD) Emmanuelle movies ... 7 of them shot in 2 years (at the same time he did 6 other movies in the same time frame)
    -- i think they stopped because they ran out of names .


    Emmanuelle Forever (1993)
    Emmanuelle in Venice (1993)
    Emmanuelle's Love (1993)
    Emmanuelle's Magic (1992)
    Emmanuelle's Perfume (1992)
    Emmanuelle's Revenge (1992)
    Emmanuelle's Secret (1992)
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