Main Concept ecoded Mpeg won't then convert to vob/ifo

[SIMES]

Hi

I moved away from TMPGenc for encoding as it seemed very slow to do an encoding, around 5+ hours. So I was recommended Main Concept Mgeg 2 encoder.

I run that on an avi, and sure enough it was much faster than TMPGenc , around 2 hours,

However when I then took that mpg and tried to convert it to the vob/ifo files using 'TMPGenc DVD, the application complains that the res of 512x 384 can not be used to convert to DVD format.

That resolution was what the avi was on, and so when main concept defaulted to that resolution , I simply accepted it.

Should I have manually gone into options and used the up/down arrows to change to a more standard DVD res of say 720x576?

However, this seems odd, as I told Main Concepts, I wanted mpeg2 dvd output so why would it suggest with the wizard the wrong resolution.

Or is at case that TMPEGenc DVD is just fussy about resolutions when other would not be?

So now the only files TMPeng DVD will convert from mpeg to vob/ifo is the avi's it encoded itself.

Damm frustrating.

ps Does anyone know of like 1 single package that can take an avi
convert that to mpeg2-dvd
convert the mpeg2-dvd to the vob files
burn the vob/if files to a blank DVD

Has no company seriously come up with such a s.w pack aside from TMPGenc which is incredibly slow.


I downloaded and encoded the avi using main concept, but now when i try to run it through tmpenc it complains it's not the right resolution and it won't create the vob files.

Does main concept have a package which does the conversion from mpeg to vob/ifo files, becuase TMPEnc DVD then balks at one of Main concepts ecodings.

[bugster]

DVD Video MUST be one of a small number of valid resolutions. I can't comment on the MainConcept wizard, but yes, you must resize to a valid DVD resolution.

[Gees]

Simes, for your software choices question - yes - there are lots of programs that can perform all the steps you want.

You were pointed toward MC (by others) based on your question of solely looking to do faster encodings.

I think, and I'm not trying to be harsh at all, you need to test drive a few more applications. Look in TOOLS, look for trialware, search and read others' comments about what they like/dislike about each.

I only recommend this because you seem to be trying one thing at a time and then coming back with questions on each one. Which is totally understandable. I'm trying to save you some time, ultimately. :c)

I think you may be still confusing stand-alone encoding processes with authoring DVDs.

As you test out other alternatives, you'll be in a better position to choose. So far, you are sort of doing things piecemeal.

Perhaps try the Ulead VideoStudio trial. Though basic, it will take you from start to finish in one go and you can progress from there.

It's what I learned on. It will help you see the whole process, the big picture, so to speak. :c)

PS - Ulead software's encoder is based on MC.

[mats.hogberg]

Hasn't MC a DVD template? Last version I tried did, at least.
If so, use this, as from what I remember, MC is very strict, locking every control that may lead the user to encode outside of specs for a given target format.

/Mats

[BJ_M]

Hasn't MC a DVD template? Last version I tried did, at least.
If so, use this, as from what I remember, MC is very strict, locking every control that may lead the user to encode outside of specs for a given target format.

/Mats

yes it does -- just select dvd template -- MC will add boarders if required , but best to set up your crop and size tools yourself if oversized ..

the ULEAD MC encoder is based using the MC sdk kit .. the stand alone does a far better job (also the case w/ vegas and premiere - with some material) , squeeze uses the updated encoding engine , premiere pro also uses a fairly advanced version ... vegas people used a lot of thier own settings and produces excellent results with converting dv and 24p dv material for dvd .. the stand alone can do better IF you learn how to use its settings (the key) ...

otherwise - as suggested.. an all in one app may be easier to use ..

[Gees]

otherwise - as suggested.. an all in one app may be easier to use ..

Yes, I suggested that purely as a learning aid. :c)

Just added the MC comment as a attempt to say, it will not be drastically different than what the user had tried so far, and as this latest attempt is, I believe, a downloaded source and may not be best quality to begin with. If I remember correctly from prior posts.

:c)

[BJ_M]

otherwise - as suggested.. an all in one app may be easier to use ..

Yes, I suggested that purely as a learning aid. :c)

Just added the MC comment as a attempt to say, it will not be drastically different than what the user had tried so far, and as this latest attempt is, I believe, a downloaded source and may not be best quality to begin with. If I remember correctly from prior posts.

:c)

yes -- you are 100% correct .. the source is the biggest factor in encoding more than anything else except perhaps bit rate for final quality.....

[SIMES]

Simes, for your software choices question - yes - there are lots of programs that can perform all the steps you want.

You were pointed toward MC (by others) based on your question of solely looking to do faster encodings.

I think, and I'm not trying to be harsh at all, you need to test drive a few more applications. Look in TOOLS, look for trialware, search and read others' comments about what they like/dislike about each.

I only recommend this because you seem to be trying one thing at a time and then coming back with questions on each one. Which is totally understandable. I'm trying to save you some time, ultimately. :c)

I think you may be still confusing stand-alone encoding processes with authoring DVDs.

As you test out other alternatives, you'll be in a better position to choose. So far, you are sort of doing things piecemeal.

Perhaps try the Ulead VideoStudio trial. Though basic, it will take you from start to finish in one go and you can progress from there.

It's what I learned on. It will help you see the whole process, the big picture, so to speak. :c)

PS - Ulead software's encoder is based on MC.

Hi Gees

Don't worry I am not confusing encoding and authouring any more, 5 days a later and the newbie idiot has progressed right up to newbie idiot with an understanding of the terminology.

I am clear now on the terms, and the processes and have in fact made plenty of working DVD's , however , yes, I am trialling lots of different applications to find the best combination of features, compatibility and speed that they have to offer.

I like Main Concept and it does want I want fine, it's much faster than TMPGenc and a nicer interface, the only issue I had was that it encoded the raw avi file into a resolution that I couldn't author from with TMPGenc DVD as it wined about the resolution.

Since the post I went back and encoded the avi file again, manually setting the resolution in settings to standard Mpeg2 -DVD res of 720x576, and then ran it through TMPGenc DVD for the authouring and it was fine, no problems, I was just surprised that in MC, I selected the output format I required and it created a mpg file in a resolution that did not seem authorable in TMPGenc DVD.

My guess was that had MC it's own authouring module, that the mgp's created using it would then be able to be authoured by it. However sadly it's only an encoder.

That then led me to thinking that it woudl be ideal if somebody had made an application that took the speed of MC, then quality of TMPgenc and the burning flexibility of say Nero and combined , a quality encoder, authouring and burning application into one, highly compatible application.

That was my thought process, I am not really floundering now, I understand how to do it, what to use, etc, for me now , it' just a case of tweaking to suit my needs , and to do that, I essentially have to try new products based on advice from here.

As it stands, I am very happy with MC, it's doing what I want in half the time of TMPGenc and with the same quality as far as I can see.

I just ordered a 2.8gzh pc with 1gb of RAM so hopefully that will increase the encoding and authouring stages dramitically as well, as currently I only have a P4 1.4mhz box with 512mb ram.

Anyway, thanks for the comments, but I'm pretty much now on the ball within my little sphere of required knowledge to achieve what I want to do.

[Gees]

newbie idiot

I think that was very harsh on yourself. :c) You have picked up a lot since I was first intrigued by your original post about "frisbee status".

I was really just encouraging you to stop and take a deep breath because you went at it all so fast & furious! :cD

I'm glad your method's worked for you. I lurked here reading for about 4 months before I got up the courage for my first post.

Keep up the good work and keep it fun. :c)