Can Anybody recommend faster s/w than TMPGEnc

[SIMES]

Hi

Can anyone recommend faster s/w that TMPGenc. Although it's doing it's job , it takes around 5 hours to decode 1hr 30 mins worth of movie.

The basic cinema craft was recommended to me, but I can't get the damm download to work, comes out file not found, any other s/w out there that people recommend for a newbie to use that is not to expensive and will basically work in near real time, ie 2hrs of movie, 2 hours to decode it.?

Thanks

[Tearren]

SIMES,

I beleive TMPGenc is one of the fastest encoders for the quality of the output when making VCD's and SVCD's. You could try different settings in TMPGenc to make it quicker though.

When making DVD's, a transcoder like DVD2One is much quicker (around 30 mins).

This is all relative to your hardware and software setup though.

Tearren

[mats.hogberg]

I believe CCE is faster. But to really make a difference, more MHz is what counts!

/Mats

[lordsmurf]

Procoder or MainConcept maybe.
I get near-realtime encodes with TMPGEnc.

[troyvcd1]

tmpgenc is the fastest encoder out there.

[holistic]

tmpgenc is the fastest encoder out there.

Out Where ??

One of the better "quality" ones but not the fastest.

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[The village idiot]

MainConcept is the fastest I have seen. Procoder is pretty slow compared to most others. You could try the mpegXS pluggin for Editstudio too, though you would have to run Editstudio to use it. It is based on the MainConcept engine and is very fast. Files are about the same size that I was getting from DVD movie Factory with the LSX encoder, but looked much better. Also files were smaller than procoder on 2 pass VBR, and more than twice as fast.

On a 2Ghz P4 I can encode a 42 minute DV episode to VCD in about 45 minutes. At DVD same length original is about 75 minutes.

When I was using a PIII 733Mhz it was taking about 6 hours to encode the same amount of DV.

[SIMES]

SIMES,

I beleive TMPGenc is one of the fastest encoders for the quality of the output when making VCD's and SVCD's. You could try different settings in TMPGenc to make it quicker though.

When making DVD's, a transcoder like DVD2One is much quicker (around 30 mins).

This is all relative to your hardware and software setup though.

Tearren

Thanks Tearren

My use with TMPeng is strictly mpeg2- DVD , I don't do any VCD or DVD, when you say 'different settings' could you be more specific?

Secondly, thanks for the hardware pointer. I can't believe I didn't think about hardware being a component in this issue. My machine has 500mb RAM, but only a P4 1.4mhz, which could be the reason this is so damm slow. Should a P4 1.4 really take 5 hours + ?

Thanks for bringing that point home to me.

SIMES

ps I didn't get any email notifications about any of these responces. Anybody experienced problems with the notifications system?

I made another post on another section forum, which I see has responces and it didn't notify me either.

[SIMES]

Procoder or MainConcept maybe.
I get near-realtime encodes with TMPGEnc.

Main concept seems like an option, but the good version of that, from what I can understand seems to be either hardware based or built into adobe premiere.

Can somebody give me a URL link to the actual Main Concept product that your suggesting.

There are a load on this page, which one?
http://www.mainconcept.com/products.shtml

ps How do you get near real time encodes? Are you going to DVD format or SVCD etc?

And what processor do you have?

[SIMES]

What do you think in general of CCE? Cinema Craft Encoder, the basic version?

[theDruid]

LSX MPEG Encoder is pretty fast, and good quality.

It has a standalone app - similar to CCE; not very flexible/configurable - so you might need to frameserve into it, which slows things down.

But, it also has a plugin for Premiere/Flask etc..

I always use LSX for MPEG-2; only slightly slower than realtime when frameserving from VirtualDub on a Athlon XP2000+

cheers,
mcdruid.

[lordsmurf]

ps How do you get near real time encodes? Are you going to DVD format or SVCD etc? And what processor do you have?

I have TMPGEnc set up for optimal performance. It doesn't come that way. That's the trick.

My conversions? From anything to anything. Normally HUFFY/AVI-to-MPEG2 or MJPEG/AVI-to-MPEG2, though sometimes MPEG1-to-MPEG2, MPEG2-to-MPEG2, or DIVX-to-MPEG1 or DIVX-to-MPEG2. Whatever I want.

Click on the COMPUTER DETAILS icon to see my system specs.

[BJ_M]

Procoder or MainConcept maybe.
I get near-realtime encodes with TMPGEnc.

Main concept seems like an option, but the good version of that, from what I can understand seems to be either hardware based or built into adobe premiere.

Can somebody give me a URL link to the actual Main Concept product that your suggesting.

There are a load on this page, which one?
http://www.mainconcept.com/products.shtml

ps How do you get near real time encodes? Are you going to DVD format or SVCD etc?

And what processor do you have?

there is only mpeg encoder listed there ... its called "mpeg encoder"

[SIMES]

Procoder or MainConcept maybe.
I get near-realtime encodes with TMPGEnc.

Main concept seems like an option, but the good version of that, from what I can understand seems to be either hardware based or built into adobe premiere.

Can somebody give me a URL link to the actual Main Concept product that your suggesting.

There are a load on this page, which one?
http://www.mainconcept.com/products.shtml

ps How do you get near real time encodes? Are you going to DVD format or SVCD etc?

And what processor do you have?

there is only mpeg encoder listed there ... its called "mpeg encoder"

I can see the title made sence, I was simply after confirmation that it was that singular package I required and that

a) I didn't require any other additional s/w from Main Concept
b) That the encoder that was discussed in the other thread re Main Concepts was not included in one of the other Main Concept products.

As I was recommended Main Concepts , as a product name as opposed to a manufacturer I wanted to ensure I was doing the right thing before purchase.

Regards

SIMES

[Jukka]

@Lordsmurf,

How do you set TMPGEnc for optimal performance??

Jukka

[SIMES]

ps How do you get near real time encodes? Are you going to DVD format or SVCD etc? And what processor do you have?

I have TMPGEnc set up for optimal performance. It doesn't come that way. That's the trick.

My conversions? From anything to anything. Normally HUFFY/AVI-to-MPEG2 or MJPEG/AVI-to-MPEG2, though sometimes MPEG1-to-MPEG2, MPEG2-to-MPEG2, or DIVX-to-MPEG1 or DIVX-to-MPEG2. Whatever I want.

Click on the COMPUTER DETAILS icon to see my system specs.

Can you share with me what your 'optimal ' settings are then please?
I typically go from avi to mpeg2-dvd

[Sam Ontario]

Hi

Can anyone recommend faster s/w that TMPGenc. Although it's doing it's job , it takes around 5 hours to decode 1hr 30 mins worth of movie.

The basic cinema craft was recommended to me, but I can't get the damm download to work, comes out file not found, any other s/w out there that people recommend for a newbie to use that is not to expensive and will basically work in near real time, ie 2hrs of movie, 2 hours to decode it.?

Thanks

You should try DVDshrink V3Beta5 if you were backing up a movie DVD of your own. Encoding time for a 1.5-hour movie is about 20 minutes (less than half an hour!) with Celeron running at 3.2GHz.

[mmmbeer]

Caching the 2nd pass cuts encoding time in 1/2. I use Dr, Divx, then TMPG and get very high quality. I have it cached at almost half a gig.

[SIMES]

Hi

Can anyone recommend faster s/w that TMPGenc. Although it's doing it's job , it takes around 5 hours to decode 1hr 30 mins worth of movie.

The basic cinema craft was recommended to me, but I can't get the damm download to work, comes out file not found, any other s/w out there that people recommend for a newbie to use that is not to expensive and will basically work in near real time, ie 2hrs of movie, 2 hours to decode it.?

Thanks

You should try DVDshrink V3Beta5 if you were backing up a movie DVD of your own. Encoding time for a 1.5-hour movie is about 20 minutes (less than half an hour!) with Celeron running at 3.2GHz.

Hi

Thanks for that, It may come in handy, looks like a good tool, but essentially not overly usefull to me right now as I take avi and encode them.

This only takes existing DVD's and backs them up

Nice tool though If I should ever need it

SIMES

[SIMES]

MainConcept is the fastest I have seen. Procoder is pretty slow compared to most others. You could try the mpegXS pluggin for Editstudio too, though you would have to run Editstudio to use it. It is based on the MainConcept engine and is very fast. Files are about the same size that I was getting from DVD movie Factory with the LSX encoder, but looked much better. Also files were smaller than procoder on 2 pass VBR, and more than twice as fast.

On a 2Ghz P4 I can encode a 42 minute DV episode to VCD in about 45 minutes. At DVD same length original is about 75 minutes.

When I was using a PIII 733Mhz it was taking about 6 hours to encode the same amount of DV.

I downloaded and encoded the avi using main concept, but now when i try to run it through tmpenc it complains it's not the right resolution and it won't create the vob files.

Does main concept have a package which does the conversion from mpeg to vob/ifo files, becuase TMPEnc DVD then balks at one of Main concepts ecodings.

[BJ_M]

no - MC doesnt create VOB files , but its mpeg DVD encoding is totally dvd compliant .. just select the dvd template ..

never tried tmpegenc author , so i cant comment ...

[Drakng]

Mainconcept is fast but I suspect the quality not so good. Maybe I am wrong. Does anyone knows of opitmum settings for Mainconcept?

[BJ_M]

Mainconcept is fast but I suspect the quality not so good. Maybe I am wrong. Does anyone knows of opitmum settings for Mainconcept?

quality is awesome .. there are now several dvd's on the shelves that were encoded using it ...

the "best" settings depend on what you are doing .. source, output , etc ..

you can get great results from procorder, cce and tmpgenc also -- settings from one dont alwways carry over to another ...

MC biggest "fault" so to speak is that it doesnt put a I frame at a new scene , but I encode scene by scene with different settings so not an issue ..

[Drakng]

Can you elaborate further on the I frame? Most of us encode movies, so how can we afford to do scene by scene? Don't you think it's not practical?

[BJ_M]

Can you elaborate further on the I frame? Most of us encode movies, so how can we afford to do scene by scene? Don't you think it's not practical?

well i encode some of the movies you are all re-encoding ...

having a new I frame at a new scene would be a good thing but if the encoder does its job .. it should be able to handle it without doing it ..

most of the time you would not notice the differance ..

[lordsmurf]

well i encode some of the movies you are all re-encoding ...

[rastoma]

tmpgenc is the fastest encoder out there.

[SIMES]

tmpgenc is the fastest encoder out there.

I'm not sure if your being ironic or not, but certainly on my machine TMPGenc is not the fast encoder.

For me it takes around 5 hours to encode a 1:45 avi.
I can do exactly the same with Main Concept's Mpeg 2 encoder in under 2 hours.

Exact same film, hardware, etc

[lordsmurf]

It's not the fastest, but it's also not as slow as some people make it out to be. Often, just a few good settings will correct those crazy 5-100 hour encodes into 1-4 hour encodes (on a 90-minute movie). The program comes badly set up.

[Sasarchiver]

I believe, out of the software ive used over the years, that Tmpg is the fastest encoding program, but it does depend on your mhz....SasArchiver