why should i buy the dvd writer?

[AzNSpiKeys]

i compared the same movie(dvd-rip downloaded from the net) burned on dvd-r(dvd) and cd-r (svcd). i played them on standalone dvd player and they look same too me ..mayb the svcd quality is alittle bit bad but u can't really tell. Why is it? they are suppose to be different...right?

[Thorn]

You're asking for advice on how much is enough when you're pirating movies? WTF?

A better question would be if you were trying to create some content of your own, and were comparing output to svcd and to dvd-r. Not that you'll see a big difference on a crappy tv, but the difference would be there.

Crap you download from the net is not going to represent the quality of the format, and piracy isn't a topic for this forum (the rules are shown when you post...).

[thayne]

Watch them on an HDTV with a surround sound system then compare the quality....

[MachineMan]

What size is your TV? Some of my VCD's even look good on my 25" television but look like crap on my friends 32". DVD burners and media are becoming cheaper so its worth it.

[lordsmurf]

Crap you download from the net is not going to represent the quality of the format,

To quote Stan Lee: " 'Nuff said "

[jdizzy40]

Next time your topic should read "Why am I such a dipstick". Quote Because you are a typical wanna bee.

[MOVIEGEEK]

Diving head first into the shallow end of the gene pool.

[SLICK RICK]

why should i buy the dvd writer?

Simple answer:
You should buy the dvd writer if you want to "write dvd's".

SLICK RICK

[The village idiot]

Simple answer... You shouldn't.

I've made some really great VCDs from some pristeen video. If it is good enough for you what do you care? And why do you care what we think?

[holistic]

[mats.hogberg]

What's this? International Bash a NoOb day?
As the saying goes "Garbage in, garbage out." In AzNSpiKeys case, the quality of the source (downloaded, oh horror!) probably isn't much better than a SVCD, so in creating a SVCD you take full advantage of the quality of the source. As you can't improve on the source, encoding as DVD is just a waste of bitrate and resolution.

/Mats

[garryheather]

I think you'll find it's more like International Bash A Clueless Pirate day.

:P

[Hardcoreruss]

I think all of you jump on a person as soon as you see the word downloaded and dvd rip. You can download my company's video prospectus that is a rip of our dvd in avi format. If I was to post that would you all have a go ?.

He did not mention any film names so in my book that is alright and it appears the mod's agree to as he has not been warned.

If you read the forum rules AzNSpiKeys has not broken any of them. I think you should all take a step back and try and help people instead of looking for the words "downloaded" and "dvd rip" so you can bash them.

AzNSpiKeys the reason why your file may look different is down to the bitrate. If you made the file say 1150kbps (vcd standard) and burth this file on vcd and also dvd they would look the same. You will need to increase your bitrate when encoding to dvd or svcd. You can find many guides helping you to do this from the convert section on the right hand bar. If you get stuck pm me.

[Hardcoreruss]

And here we go, a little further down we have a cross post where both Adam and Baldrick agree with me

https://www.videohelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=179798

[andydd]

Wow !. Nine posts mentioning large Tvs, surround sound, etc before Mats posted the real reason why there was no difference between the SVCD n DVD.

If its crap to start with you can make it any rez or bitarte you want, it will still be crap.

What aznspikeys needs to do is rip a DVD to DVD and SVCD and then compare them and he'll see the great reasons for buying a DVD burner, not to mention that making a SVCD is a pain in the ass.

Also why the hostility against downoading a movie, why is that so wrong but ripping a DVD (which propb 90% of the people here do) ok ?.., Its piracy pure and simple whatever way you look at it.

[mkelley]

Also why the hostility against downoading a movie, why is that so wrong but ripping a DVD (which propb 90% of the people here do) ok ?.., Its piracy pure and simple whatever way you look at it.

Actually, here in the U.S. the jury is still out as to whether it is legal under the fair use doctrine for you to rip a DVD you own. So right at the moment you would not be considered a pirate to create backups -- which is what I do.

Obviously ripping a DVD you do not own is a different issue -- but downloading movies means you obviously do not own the source, so the assumption (reasonable, in my opinion -- despite the very slim possibility the movie is posted by the author and the author gives his or her permission for it to be copied) is made of piracy.

[bugster]

To all those here discussing the issue as to wether or not AzNSpiKeys deserves your help because he MAY be talking about about a pirated movie, there are a few things for you to think about:

Dvdrhelp does not condone piracy. This is the official view of the site administrator and the moderators.

Just because a movie has been 'downloaded' does not guarantee it is a pirate movie. Unless the poster provides the movie name or file name (or some other info) that makes it obvious that it is a movie not yet released on consumer media (VHS or DVD), then it is not safe to assume it is a pirated or otherwise illegal copy of a movie.

If any user sees a post where they believe that the forums AUP has been broken, be it with respect to warez or any other forum rule, the correct action is to use the 'report this post link' and not to post a reply abusing the original poster.

I hope this helps to clear a few things up.

Bugster

[ember]

The reason I bought a dvd-writer was to make DVD movies; but the truly amazing thing is discovering how big some "photo" folders were on my harddrive. Data storage is by no means an irrelevent issue with DVDs.

[CHAOS]

Also why the hostility against downoading a movie, why is that so wrong but ripping a DVD (which propb 90% of the people here do) ok ?.., Its piracy pure and simple whatever way you look at it.

LOL!!! yeah hypocrisy is a beautiful thing eh....

This is funny, some lady has the star wars S.E. trilogy on e-bay, she is selling just the cases, here is her auction

"Custom Star Wars DVD Cases + Free Gift"
You are looking at a set of three custom DVD cases for the Star Wars Trilogy. These cases are printed on high gloss paper and have a real professional look to them. Any one purchasing these cases will also recieve a free gift. I think you can figure out what the gift is. Please e-mail me with any questions you have before bidding. Thanks for looking. Please note that we can only accept Paypal as payment and that we ship in the US only.

Okay, i hope i don't get in trouble here,
I e-mailed her asking if she would sell me just a set of the disc's for a reduced price as i don't need the artwork & stuff, i have the original on LD but not the S.E.
Here is what she sent me back

No, selling the discs is piracy. I am just selling the cases with a bonus.
The audio is 5.1 dolby digital and dts.

LOL!!!!!!!! like giving them away is any diff. or trying to disguise it as a free gift!!!!

[Metaluna]

As you can't improve on the source, encoding as DVD is just a waste of bitrate and resolution.

/Mats

Except that many more DVD players will play DVD's than will play SVCDs

[macleod]

couple of reasons:

1) dont have to get your ass up off the couch to change the CD's (unless you get a disk changer)
2) 8 hours to back up a movie (conversion) vs 1-2 hours to back up a dvd to DVD
3)more compatibility for players (% of dvdr vs CVD,SVCD,VCD, XVCD, blah, blah, blah)

As far as the bashing part, the pendelum is swung the other way. As of late, it has become "in vogue" to bash someone that has downloaded a movie. Mostly because for the majority of the posts I have read, the donwloaded a movie is usually followed up with the name of the movie, which turns out to be a violation of the rules.

I try to give everyone the benefit of the doubt, however, (and I hope that people can see this), when you answer X numbers of posts (or see them) that talk about pirated movies, you start thinking EVERYONE is doing it. The ole, someone wrongs you and everyones an ass mentality.

Another possible answer may lie in TGPO's post of "how to increase your number of posts"

[The village idiot]

Simple answer... You shouldn't.

I've made some really great VCDs from some pristeen video. If it is good enough for you what do you care? And why do you care what we think?

I'll quote myself here for certain people.

Not bashing this person at all. If VCD is good enough, then there is no reason to purchase a DVD burner! But again, why does it matter what we think? Do you want one, or not? That is the only question you have to answer. Very few people NEED a DVD burner. VERY few people NEED a computer for that matter.

[jtommyj]

I agree about the bashing. I downloaded Sonice Scenarist from my file server to my desktop and some knuckehead reported to the moderators that I was pirating software.
KNOW what you speak of and the WHOLE story before you bash.
Believe it or not, sometimes people with problems that post aren't always the most eloquent at making sure they word their question in a way that would meet with everyone's approval.
A better solution would have been to either ask where the software came from (if you really think it is any of your business), help the guy out, or IGNORE.

[Thorn]

Also why the hostility against downoading a movie, why is that so wrong but ripping a DVD (which propb 90% of the people here do) ok ?.., Its piracy pure and simple whatever way you look at it.

Downloading is less of a grey area than DVD ripping, so it's easier to tell when the activity isn't appropriate.

Honestly, there ARE dumb questions. If we don't let people know, they continue without ever learning that SOME THINGS AREN'T TOPICS FOR THIS FORUM. Iffy posts are guided far more than they are bashed. Note that the poster wasn't given a formal warning either.

When people are warned for breaking the rules, it's because they either are engaging in such activity or said something dumb that made it look like they were.

[bugster]

[quote="Thorn Note that the poster wasn't given a formal warning either.
[/quote]

The poster was not given a formal warning (yellow card) because it is possible to legitimatley download movies. Without further info we have no proof that the movie in question was not such a movie. Innocent until proven guilty.

No matter how likley you believe the movie was pirated, we can't prove it.

[jtommyj]

Downloading is less of a grey area than DVD ripping, so it's easier to tell when the activity isn't appropriate.

Honestly, there ARE dumb questions. If we don't let people know, they continue without ever learning that SOME THINGS AREN'T TOPICS FOR THIS FORUM. Iffy posts are guided far more than they are bashed. Note that the poster wasn't given a formal warning either.

When people are warned for breaking the rules, it's because they either are engaging in such activity or said something dumb that made it look like they were.

Wow- May I please borrow your crystal ball ? You seem to be taking on alot "knowing" when something is inappropriate and being the arbiter of what is a "dumb" question and when someone says something "dumb".

Downloading is NOT any of a greyer area than ripping. My cousin has set up an FTP server with our home movies on it so anyone in the family can download and view, convert or whatever. Don't assume.
You can't tell when ANTYTHING is inappropriate unless you know the FULL story.

Good thing Columbus didn't say the Earth was round on the forum. Back then, that was, I'm sure, considered quite "dumb".

I myself am much too busy to presume to judge what I think others mean by their statements. I prefer the old fashioned way.
Asking.