DVD stickers causing playing problems???

[DvDstyle]

To all you gurus that use stickers on their DVD's? Does this pose a problem during playback? My brother in law is putting stickers on his DVD's and say that when he puts his stickers on, it causes the dvd to skip and hvae problems and his theory is that it adds too much weight to the DVD, which is the reason why. I think it may just be the disc compatibility issue. any comments welcomed. Thanks...

[andkiich]

It's possible. Do a forum search on this topic and you'll find many threads relating to labels and their affects on DVDs.

Sometimes the affects of the labels are not immediate, but after some time they can show themselves.

[steptoe]

True, I used to put proper DVD labels on, with minimal ink, and had problems with skipping/pausing, so had to remove the labels

Shame really, they looked quite good with labels, instead of just handwritten titles

Also, media can make a difference as well, some machines don't like certain media, other will play anything


My machine refuses to play Mirror media at x4, but plays at x2... strange but true

But, I've used Princo, which a lot hate, and at x4 plays pretty well

[trevinop]

Labels are bad because they cause an imbalance and changes the throw distance between the laser and the disc itself. A change in the throw distance cause the laser not to be in focus creating a skip or a slow motion effect. I write my titles onto the disc itself using a special pen made by Hama. It looked ugly at first because I have ugly writing but my wife has excellent handwriting so she now writes the titles.

[DvDstyle]

Thanks for all replies....is there any dvd labelers that is light enough to work without problems? any recommendations?

[Grant_H]

I use a Sharpie marker, for all my labels.

[kpoman]

Personally I think you guys are full of shit. Can you REALLY prove lables cause the DVD to skip? Don't think so....99.999999999% of the time its your media, or player, or burner, or your process, NOT a damn label. My 2 cents.

[Tommyknocker]

Watch your mouth. I still use the same media but changed the labels to hub labels. My playback problems went away. So for me it was my labels.

[ZippyP.]

Then there's CD printers. Never heard of any problems with them.

[MackemX]

Personally I think you guys are full of shit. Can you REALLY prove lables cause the DVD to skip? Don't think so....99.999999999% of the time its your media, or player, or burner, or your process, NOT a damn label. My 2 cents.

can you prove it ain't, I doubt it but you can quite easily prove it is the lables

people who have stuck labels on and the DVD hasn't played then rip the label off and the DVD plays faultlessly. I think that's proof enough don't you?

so next think I'd think carefully before letting your mouth go as I don't think the guys are full of shit

[jntaylor63]

Use Hub labels.

They are cheapest per label (520 for 10.00) and only cover the clear plastic in the center of the disk

Granted the text and logos are small, but its clean and about as safe as you can get.

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[Tommyknocker]

Use Hub labels.

They are cheapest per label (520 for 10.00) and only cover the clear plastic in the center of the disk

Granted the text and logos are small, but its clean and about as safe as you can get.

Now where have I heard that before? You tell 'em, Jntaylor63!

[mgfulk]

Studies do show that labels on DVDs can cause issues.

http://cd-dvd-supplies.com has special "no wobble" labels that claim to reduce the problem.

The 2 issues with these labels that I have found are: 1: that they are clear, so you need to use DVD Media that has no factory print on the disk. Best to use "White Top" media. 2: they are expensive @ US$34.00/100.

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Hope this helps.

[ladyb1998]

i have backed up about 10 different move onto a dvd+r memorex 4x disc. put labels on all of them, no problem except for one that had a little scratch on the disc. redone it put a label on it no problem now. labels for me works with no problems

[Doggiedaddy]

I still use the same media but changed the labels to hub labels. My playback problems went away. So for me it was my labels.

"simi-ditto"

Never had a problem but why risk it. I also switched to hub labels just in case. I am WAY to anal for an ugly Sharpe to be used. I do believe it may be more of a DVD player problem than a label problem.

[verchad]

Let's all agree to disagree. I think it could be all of the things discussed. From my personal experience I have been burning dvd-r for over a year now with set top panasonic and pioneer/cendyne pc burner. I have been labeling them all the time too, full disk labels. Some of the discs have been for my soon to be 4 year old daughter. Needless to say some of those dvd's get quite a workout. Have been played numerous times on the panasonic, the pc, and an apex 703a. No problems. I think sometimes it's a disc quality issue, sometimes a hardware issue, and sometimes an issue with the method of labeling. I have used 2 labeling systems, a Fellowes/Neato one ( label goes face down on holder, disc on top of spring loaded mechanism ), you press it down and it sticks. The other is a TDK system, plastic clamshell put disc on one side label on the other and close to seal. As long as the labels hub holes match the applicator hub, the labels seem to be centered very good. If I attempt to use labels that are bigger than the hub, they could get off center and could case the disc to be unbalanced. So, if you do use full labels, make sure they are centered and make sure the ink is dry before applying to disc. I had a few that I tried to apply when they were not dry and as I peeled them off the paper, they stretched from the ink.

[cellmaniac]

I had the same problem using DVD/CD labels and they immediately caused the DVD's to skip/freeze during playback. Since I couldn't easily remove the label, I ended up burning new copies and they play perfectly. I now use a sharpie to label the DVD and use the thin CD cases and print a cover to insert into the case. This works great.

[Grant_H]

I now use a sharpie to label the DVD and use the thin CD cases and print a cover to insert into the case.

[jzaman]

I have been using the Casio CDR-50 title printer religiously on both CD's and DVD's for the last six months. It produces a good looking and non-raised surface with its thermal head. Works on both silver tops and white tops. Does not require special inkjet ready disks and it does not unbalance or damage the disk. The printer goes for $85 and the ribbons go for ~$6 (50-60 prints). Though it only prints one color at a time, you can vary the ribbons (black,blue,red,silver,gold) to create a multicolor effect. However, I prefer the black overall and they also last the longest.

[The village idiot]

I have been using the Casio CDR-50 title printer religiously on both CD's and DVD's for the last six months. It produces a good looking and non-raised surface with its thermal head. Works on both silver tops and white tops. Does not require special inkjet ready disks and it does not unbalance or damage the disk. The printer goes for $85 and the ribbons go for ~$6 (50-60 prints). Though it only prints one color at a time, you can vary the ribbons (black,blue,red,silver,gold) to create a multicolor effect. However, I prefer the black overall and they also last the longest.

It is too bad that Casio didn't use the same method that Alps used for its printers. Then the machine would change ribbons by itself. Too bad Alps is no longer, those printers did have a great photo output. Nearly as good as dye sublimation printers.

Also the inkjet disk printing is beginning to take hold. With Epson making 2 home use printers, as well as the EZ/CD printers. Canon has a Japan market machine that will do disks, but they have the US model locked out from working. Must be a license or patent problem. You can also buy hacked printers that will work, but they are just as expensive as the Epsons. Then there is always making one yourself (see below)

Now all we need to do is get the disk manufacturers all using the proper coatings for inkjet use and we will be all set! Memorex seems to be leading the consumer push for printable disks. They are the only "common" brand that has them available. Now if we can just get the walk in stores to stock them. You can buy them from the Epson store, among others, and the seem to work well. Drying time in 15 minutes or less. Just don't hold it in water! When Epson sees their blunder, they will put disk printing in their pigment ink printers and all will be forgiven.