Why i don't use Nero !

[MackemX]

People say they hate it, but it stillhas a 8.2/10 rating.

yeah I noticed that but it's only 5 votes and RNM has a smaller rating of 8.02 (3 votes or something) last time when I looked earlier today though I wonder what will happen now you have brought it to everyone's attention

I was gonna suggest people go post their comments in there but I doubt it would be a honest vote now though

[MackemX]

DVD+R 'sucks'

Hey MackemX, take it easy

DVD-R sucks


Just kidding

it's nice to finally have a laugh in this thread

[FOO]

I've been laughing the whole time.

[MackemX]

I've been laughing the whole time.

here we go again

but I guess that's my exact point in this post HERE as you are obviously posted for the fun of it just like certain others in this thread initially with nothing construtive to say

[Ejoc]

I see you brought your little friend Ejoc also

Why you going after me? At no point in this thread have I said "Nero Sucks," I have from the start tried to get this person who posted "DATA" saying that nero isnt any good to explain is DATA, which he could not. When you posted data, I actually complimented you and said that you posted good understandable data.

If you take a step back, that comment in the other thread about you and nero was funny, because you had to be reading this thread to get it.

And if anything, thayne's my little friend

[frankb]

Interesting read so far...

My experience with Nero (5.5.8.something, latest download):

When I burn Sentinel DVD-R: no problems whatsoever.

When I burn (cheapo) DVD-R (Supermedia 1-2 speed): sometimes I get the "could not close disk" error, but when I check it it will play correctly (yes, I did check towards the very end) both on my DVD-ROM and on my standalone (CyberHome CH-402). The errors occur irrespective of whether I burn at 1 speed or 2 speed.

So, based on this, I would say it's not Nero but it's the media that makes the difference.

Btw, when I run into a problem and before I say that sofware xyz sucks, I have the following approach:
Step 1: Try and blame mself (i.e. find out if I - God forbid! - may have made a mistake...)
Step 2: Check whether I have the latest version.
Step 3: Look at other people's experiences and see whether they match mine.
Step 4: If then I'm still experiencing the same problems, I just blame Windows 8)

Frank

[yysie]

You need to burn in the UDF format if you don't... it will cause problems!!

[MackemX]

Why you going after me?

LOL, I ain't after you as my post regarding you was in just as much fun as yours was

and thanks for the compliment

[thayne]

Thayne, perhaps we should ask the moderators to give you your own forum so I don't have to see your beligerant posts, then...

Umm, this is my forum 8) How is my stating fact beligerant? Maybe the truth hurts? Like I said before you don't have to listen to what I say, you can keep your head in the sand, I don't care....

[tompika]

You need to burn in the UDF format if you don't... it will cause problems!!

I thought it was UDF/ISO
(UDF1.02 of course)

[MackemX]

Thayne, perhaps we should ask the moderators to give you your own forum so I don't have to see your beligerant posts, then...

Umm, this is my forum 8) How is my stating fact beligerant? Maybe the truth hurts? Like I said before you don't have to listen to what I say, you can keep your head in the sand, I don't care....

eh? I didn't post that did I, maybe I did

nice to see someone else sees what I see regarding some of the attitudes around here

FACT: nero 'sux' because thayne has stated it 3 times in this thread

[cplevel42]

Here are the facts.

1. More people use Nero than any other burning program. - There is a reason for this.

2. RNM is a good burning app, but the user interface is non-intuitive. It's quite easy once you know the settings though.

3. Only a minority of Nero users have burning and playback problems with the app. This certainly does NOT mean that nero sucks.

4. MANY RNM users have reported making coasters with the app. - Question: Does this mean that RNM sucks?

[johns0]

ive been using nero for 3 years and it can be anywhere from great to really crappy depending on which version they put out to fix a problem and introduce another one,the newest version wont let me burn 79:57 min even with overburn checked so i just image the files and burn with alcohol.

[thayne]

Here are the facts.

1. More people use Nero than any other burning program. - There is a reason for this.

2. RNM is a good burning app, but the user interface is non-intuitive. It's quite easy once you know the settings though.

3. Only a minority of Nero users have burning and playback problems with the app. This certainly does NOT mean that nero sucks.

4. MANY RNM users have reported making coasters with the app. - Question: Does this mean that RNM sucks?

1) Yes, because it come bundled with more burners
2) No comment
3) Says who? I'm not talking about having problems, I'm talking about burning to DVD-Video standards
4) Nope it doesn't

[Soptobbe]

I think people have trouble with Nero, they just don't know it ! because the disks works in their own players. Here's an example:
I Burned an Optodisck001 with Nero, the disk plays on my 454 but jumping chapters goes slow, then i burned the same files on an Optodisck001 with Clonedvd and it jump chapters much faster. Then i scan the disk's with Kprobe and as expected the Nero burned disc messed up at the end.

[MackemX]

I think people have trouble with Nero, they just don't know it ! because the disks works in their own players. Here's an example:
I Burned an Optodisck001 with Nero, the disk plays on my 454 but jumping chapters goes slow, then i burned the same files on an Optodisck001 with Clonedvd and it jump chapters much faster. Then i scan the disk's with Kprobe and as expected the Nero burned disc messed up at the end.

why didn't I get the same poor results as you when I used Kprobe?

I ran a test on an original DVD to see just how different my results would be and as it shows there isn't much difference and it's pretty obvious my Lite-On is having issues but regardless the Nero test ain't that bad considering the orginal test results

so even my original DVD ain't that impressive but I that's probably down to my pretty worn Lite-On DVDROM drive



I'm pretty sure if I burned an Optodisck001 with Nero I wouldn't get the same results as you say, but if you get bad results which I believe you experience, for some reason I don't

[MackemX]

I agree with a lot of the comments about Nero.........

I use it for burning audio CD's, it good at that, I use CDRWin for CD images, Nero is crap at that, and now I'm looking into using other software to burn DVD's, 'cos Nero is crap at that (MY personal view ... at the moment)

Until they released a patch to cure the disk not closing error when burning DVDs (how did they miss that), I changed my software, but I'm dubious about using Nero to burn DVD's now

Oh yeah, I'm using the latest v6 update, with their patch, but still won't trust it to burn DVD's anymore


Any suggestions as to what software can burn good DVD's, without screwing up and creating more coasters, and also let me set the burn speed, and without having to release a crappy patch to fix a what could be classed as a major bug ??

your disc not closing error sounds very familar to an issue I had recently and it looks like you have a conflict somewhere and you would probably have to flush your system to fix it

I removed entries from the registry regarding the upper and lower filters and also uninstalled all the software concerned and then reinstall again in a particular order and everything was fine again

why not try another software like RNM which may work just fine on your current system

[thayne]

I removed entries from the registry regarding the upper and lower filters and also uninstalled all the software concerned and then reinstall again in a particular order and everything was fine again

And you don't see a problem with that? How many users out there even know what the registry is?

[MackemX]

I removed entries from the registry regarding the upper and lower filters and also uninstalled all the software concerned and then reinstall again in a particular order and everything was fine again

And you don't see a problem with that? How many users out there even know what the registry is?

I don't blame Nero at all because it was the installation of IC8 that upset my system just like it did with other users who posted about the issue

just in case you missed the thread it's HERE with the same issue mentioned HERE

I do also know that some people would rather move on and not bother finding out what the issue is. I could quite easily have taken the same attitude that both programs were crap because they conflicted. If I was going to blame anything then it would be IC8 but did I cry about it?. Did I say IC8 'sucks'. Nope, I just got on with it and resolved it instead and actually think IC8 is quite a good application to have

You will also notice some users didn't have issues when they installed IC8 as well as having Nero on their system but did I go on the same way as some are at the minute because it didn't work for me?

I realise you have a serious issue with nero but to keep on repeating everytime you think a whining spot is available is proving to be very repetitive and a little bit boring

[thayne]

I'm not saying Nero sucks because of conflicts or that it just doesn't work. I say it sucks because it doesn't make Compliant DVD-Video disks. I never had a problem with it "not working" and I still use it for burning CD's. My whole point is it doesn't make DVD-Video compliant disks.

[MackemX]

I'm not saying Nero sucks because of conflicts or that it just doesn't work. I say it sucks because it doesn't make Compliant DVD-Video disks. I never had a problem with it "not working" and I still use it for burning CD's. My whole point is it doesn't make DVD-Video compliant disks.

I gathered that from your earlier posts but to continue saying it 'sucks' in most threads does sound a little repetitive but all water under the bridge now anyway

it does seem strange that Nero checks for DVD-Compliance and complains if something is wrong so what DVD-Compliance is it working too?

have you seen FAQ on Nero's site HERE

one helluva disclaimer if you ask me

[thayne]

Okay, how about "Nero blows"?

[MackemX]

Okay, how about "Nero blows"?

[terrya64]

I have used Nero to burn numerous dvd's for myself and about 5 other people, we all have different dvd players and never have I had a disc that didn't work perfect. Tdk 420n burner, Sony and Memorex disc with latest version of Nero.

[super-al]

i have ben using nero 6.0 for about 2 months now i have some problems. It workes great on 90% of DVD players.But as far as ease to make a avi,mpeg.divx or what ever the nerovision express2 is great. But most of the time when i talk to other people they dont have the nero express2 set up correctly.

I do it this way

open nero start smart .. then DVD pulldown at the top right ..click photo and video ..make a DVD-Video

now im in nero vision express2 add the avi file ..and do what ever i want to it .. edit it front or the end change the sound to fit more in the more options at the bottem it will automaticly reduce the file for you. .. then burn to image or DVD drive or in file mode... and i need all the help i can get

I have found out that the cheep DVDs will not play on some DVD players using nero then i burned the same way using nero with better DVDs and they work fine

[lordsmurf]

My whole point is it doesn't make DVD-Video compliant disks.

I just shake my head at this...
Thayne, where are you coming from with this absurd remark?

RMN and Nero use the same specs for burning DVD-Video.

Since switching to version 5.5.10.20 (which fixed UDF errors), I have yet to find a player that rejects discs (including old picky ones I know about). :P

Actually, RMN, Roxio 5 and InstantCD/DVD are the only three burning apps to ever crash on my system on a consistent basis. But you don't see me ranting "RMN sucks".... I just say "Nero works!"... In fact, the only reason I canceled making a RMN guide at www.lordsmurf.com was because RMN was crashing while trying to get screenshots. That, bundled with the fact I rarely use it, got it canned.

And even then, it's just my system rejecting RMN. It obvisouly works on sombody's system. You like it. And I say good for you. You found what works. That's the important part.

[i am x]

You can say what ever you like, nero still sucks... I use it for burning CD's, which it happenes to be good at, but it's a poor DVD burning app. Wait till you make a DVD for someone and it doesn't work. Unless you are only making DVD's for yourself, you shouldn't use nero. It's common knowledge that it doesn't make 100% compatible disks.

I'm GLAD I just read this! Today I had a horrible experience with Nero and some brand new Ritek G04's. I have a couple friends who pay me to back up their new DVD's for them, as they have kids, and their kids have a tendency to trash the originals with fingerprints and such. They have considered my "service" to be invaluable. I recently bought a 50 pack of silver topped Ritek 4x G04's. 1 of my friends just bought the new Lion King Special Edition set and wanted me to back it up for him. No problem. So I back up the discs and give them to him. He calls me later that night, and says that BOTH discs were FREEZING after only a couple minutes of play! I was thinking to myself, "The RITEK'S? IMPOSSIBLE!" So I go over his house, and sure enough, after about 2 minutes of play, the discs would just FREEZE in a paused position. I couldn't believe it. My first thought was that the Ritek bundle was defective. Then I went backwards in my mind to think of everything I did to back up the discs. The only thing I did differently was to burn them with Nero 6. Before that, I was using TMPEG DVD Author's burning engine, and NEVER had any problems. I have backed up about 7 or 8 discs for this guy in the past, as well as some for other people, only using Ritek G04's, and they NEVER had any problems with freezing. He gave me the originals back to give it another shot, and the first thing I did was to get on here and read up on the posts. Sure enough, I found quite a few posts about people burning with Nero, and the resulting discs (even high quality ones like Ritek) freezing up. So I'm giving it another shot and backing up his Lion King again, THIS time, using the TMPEG DVD Author burning engine to burn them. If this works, and the discs don't freeze on his player, then it will prove that the culprit was in fact, Nero 6.
for the record, the backed up copies DID play on MY player with no freezing, so I assumed that they would automatically work on his too. Such was definitely NOT the case. I basically use Nero to burn SVCD's and music discs. But I'll NEVER use Nero to burn another DVD again!

[MackemX]

is this still doing the rounds

just use whatever works best for you and don't worry about what others use. If people did the world would be a happier place

I must unsubscribe

[Doggiedaddy]

Nero sux, I use recordnow max because it makes disks that actually play on all my players and it uses almost no CPU to do it. I can be encoding in the background while burning and it never crashes.

Yea baby !!!!!!! NERO SUCKS AND THE NEWER THE VERSION THE MORE IT SUCKS!!!!!!!!!
NERO users are nothing more than testers. Why would AHEAD waste their blank CD/DVD for testing when there are so many guppies willing to waste their money and do it for them.
jm2c

[rhegedus]

I've burned over 300 (admittedly, not huge, but enough) DVDs of various formats with Nero, including a batch of 50 2x -R that were going out to people with unknown set-top players. Haven't had a single problem with Nero - the only problem I had whilst burning was with a bad batch of Verbatim disks (CMC).

My only comparison is Roxio Easy CD 5 Platinum - lots of blue screens and a reformat after it made Windows not see my optical drives.

I'm not saying the sun shines out of Nero's ass, but there are enough happy customers to conclude that it doesn not 'suck'.