only difference between original and copy is volume!

[btvs2000]

Hi Guys

Why do my copied DVD's need to have the volume setting higher to get the same loudness as the oringal when playin them back?

I use DVD Shrink, DVD FAB, DVD Decryter and burn with NERO 6. Have a Pioneer DVR 105 and now using branded Maxell media!

Thanks

[overloaded_ide]

I guess that would be a good question, but I do not have any answer.

I used DVDshrink 2.3 for one backup and 3beta5 for more backups, I have not noticed any difference in my volume settings durring playback!

Is it a small differnce in volume or a large diference? If I were to geuss, I might think you removed a sound track that the player normally uses and it is now defualting to the other sound track and maybe that was the difference, but only guessing.
Did you make an exact copy? Or remove extra sound tracks?

[bluntman72]

My guess would be that if there is any sort of compression that has to be done so the backup would fit on the DVDr the programs will not only compress the video but as well as the audio.

[btvs2000]

cheers for replying.

I normally only keep one souindtrack the main 6 channel one. And when have to compress film it should only do video not audio and still that should not affect volume level. Even exact copies have problem.

The problem is not that bad, i can live with it, not that big a difference but it is noticable.
Any other suggestins>?

[Excellerator]

I have noticed in the past when I select Dolby 5.1 that it seems quieter than say movies with Dolby 2ch. You would think it would be louder. Even the originals are like that.

[Phil Thomas]

Normally ripping & compressing will not alter the sound quality.

But if you play a 5.1 soundtrack, in a non 5.1. system, it will be quieter.

I know for a fact that Dvd2one and DVD Shrink do not touch the sound at all.

[mkelley]

Yes, this is almost surely a problem (and don't call me Shirley) with one DD track versus another. IOW, the original poster is probably playing a DD 2.0 track on the original disk, while backing up the 5.1 track on the copy (and thus is sounds quieter).

Easy to test -- just make a couple of backups with the various audio tracks on the disk (if there are three types, make three backups with one audio track on each disk). Then test all three disks. One is almost certainly going to sound identical to the playback of the original disk.

The only thing I ever play (and backup) is DD 5.1, and my backups sound identical to my originals.

[MackemX]

But if you play a 5.1 soundtrack, in a non 5.1. system, it will be quieter.

that's correct as a downmixed 5.1 soundtrack to 2.0 sound is not as loud as the original stereo. 5.1 seems to be quieter but it has a broader range of levels of sound

btvs2000 how are you playing back the audio on the DVD's, are you using a 5.1 system?

none of the one click programs touch the audio at all

[btvs2000]

Cheers guys thats exactly the problem and solution!

I play them back through my hi-fi (connected to dvd player), so I am not playing 5.1 sound through a dobly digital amp.

Cool. I will continue to backup 5.1, becuase eventually will get a digital amp. And not always room to keep two soundtracks.

Thanks guys!!

[ddlooping]

Hi all.

I have noticed this drop in volume too (about 3 to 5 db).
It seem to happen regardless of the backup/burning software used, the media used, and whether compression is needed or not.

I do not know the exact reason, but having a 5x100 watts THX Harman Kardon DD/DTS amp, my conclusion was this is due to the burning process and might be unavoidable.