I just saw the Matrix Reloaded and I thought....

[vitualis]

I felt they overdid everything. For example...

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[The scene where they were dancing in the cave] It was too long, it became repeatative and boring

[The battle on the top of the semi] How many times did Morpheus almost fall agian?

[Neo and Trinity making out] way to much emphisis on that for little gain

[multiple agent smith battle] I only need to see someone slammed agianst a wall once or twice to get the point.

I have to agree with all of the above except the Agent Smith battle. The surreal quality of that scene was kind of cool.

Regards.

[Greenspock]

The first time I saw it, I thought it was 'good'. It took me the second time and simply "accepting" all the symbolism to see that it was a great movie. Once I sat back and simply watched it without trying to analyze everything and comparing it to the first that I actually enjoyed it a lot more.

Besides, I bet that many of you that thought it was "ok" or worse are going out and purchasing the DVD once its out (myself included).

[Conquest10]

yup, yup. dvd comes out two days before my birthday.

[tgpo]

I won't be buying it. Watching it once was bad enough.

[tgpo]

I see that there is come confusion as to what we're talking about here. We are refering to the Theater release of Reloaded. We saw it in the theater and are talking about what we thought of it. The references to DVDs are talking about a scene in the first movie, we're not talking about Reloaded on DVD. Hope that clears it up for ya'll.

[Solarjetman]

I won't be buying it. Watching it once was bad enough.

yeah, but I may buy the trilogy set when it comes out. Depending on how good the third one is.

[Greenspock]

I see that there is come confusion as to what we're talking about here. We are refering to the Theater release of Reloaded. We saw it in the theater and are talking about what we thought of it. The references to DVDs are talking about a scene in the first movie, we're not talking about Reloaded on DVD. Hope that clears it up for ya'll.

Wasn't talking about a DVD release either, other than that most of the people who only thought it (the theater release) was 'ok' were going to get a copy of it for themselves (myself included). Just an attempt at being ironic here.

[freestyler]

Matrix Reloaded was a cool "watch it once" type of movie.

It's not a film that I would personally dwell on or cut apart analytically - that would ruin the entertainment value, as has been evidenced here.

Obviously, folks seeing Matrix Reloaded for the first time at the dollar theater probably aren't the target audience for this type of film - one reason their response to the film is less than spectacular.

Without a doubt the action sequences in this film break new ground. Once the DVD comes out, I may buy it or rent it just for the action scenes and the Rob Dougan dominated score of the film - very kick ass tunes played throughout, fittingly, plus the presence of the lovely Ms Monica Bellucci.

I'm a bigger Terminator fan though - I'd take T3 over MR any day.

-Freestyler

[flaninacupboard]

I'm amazed! MR is coming out in the UK BEFORE it's out in the US!!
i can see a whole slew of "Divx PAL to NTSC" topics coming up

[indolikaa]

I'm amazed! MR is coming out in the UK BEFORE it's out in the US!! I can see a whole slew of "Divx PAL to NTSC" topics coming up!

Are you suggesting this might be busy time for KaZaa?

She-it!

[flaninacupboard]

The mere thought hadn't even begun to speculate about the merest possibility of crossing my mind!!

ok, maybe it was.

£1 to the first person to spot the quote though.

[Solarjetman]

Neo probably impregnated Trinity, and their child will somehow end this cycle of "Reloading" the Matrix.

Maybe, but I do not think that is what the third movie will be about.

SPOILER
If you remember, at the very end of the movie, after the ship was destroyed, Neo just disappeared. (or was he unconseious for no good reason, can't remember?) Either way, I beleive that he actually woke up in the real world. So the "real" world was actually the matrix, and "the matrix" was just a program running inside a program (like the emphasis they put on programs in the seecond one). This also explains why agent smith got all his newfound abilities.

There was more that lead me to beleive this hypothesis, but I can not remember it since its been awhile since I watched the movie. I remember there was something the arcitect told Neo that supported my claim, and something to do with Zion. Wish I remembered.

[flaninacupboard]

yes, the arcitecht said something about zion having been destroyed before, and how it was all part of the cycle. He claimed the machines relased a few humans and allowed them to build zion, then created the one, and then zion was destroyed, and the cycle begins again. This doesn't seem to correlate with what we observe, as the humans in zion are using machines/ships which are very old, much older than the cycle should be. This either indicates that "the real world" is a computer program as much as the matrix, hence they can create "old" machines and ships, or that the arcitecht is lying. He could simply be trying to break neos' spirit.

However, the arcitecht lying and the real world being real doesn't link in with what we see at the end of the film (namely neo's zappy fingers) unless there's something else going on. perhaps neo is albe to directly effect the matrix, and the machines, from outside, through weird telepathic linkage, or some secret radio transmission he didn't previously know about. it does seem more likely that the "real world" is also a program, although why the arcitecht would reveal this, and why this generation of neo can access the really real world when previous ones couldn't, i don't know. perhaps even the really real world is fake, and there's an infinte number of fake matrices running. perhaps the truth is stranger than we can even imagine.

Bets are on that the third film ends with neo still questioning his percieved reality, in an irritatingly open ended type deely. enter part four, The Matrix: The Next Generation............

[g_shocker182]

What I want to know is how can critics say that Reloaded has no story line and that its "all just action" when we've been about to talk about it for several days

[adam]

Yes Solarjetman the Matrix within a Matrix theory seems to be the leading contender amongst fans, and I think this is probably what will happen. There are tons of clues that could lead to this storyline, but then again its the most obvious one so they might not go that route.

SPOILER!!!!!




At the end after Neo stops the sentinals he passes out and at the very end they show him lying on the table next the human who was "possessed" by agent Smith. Whether or not this is the actual reason, what we are SUPPOSED to think is that Neo has discovered that they were actually still in the Matrix even when they thought they were in the real world. This revelation was too much for his brain to take, and so he went into a coma of sorts. Remember in the first Matrix they said that when you free a mind of a certain age they can't accept the truth and go into a coma or even die. Neo did it the first time, and now he's doing it again.

I still think Trinity is pregnant and that this will have some importance in the final movie. They focused on that scene way to long to just dismiss it. My theory is that Trinity's child will be one of the group of people chosen to rebuild Zion. Remember the architect said something about how Zion would be rebuilt by like 7 people (I totally forget how many it was.) I think, whether Zion is actually destroyed or not, that they will at some point realize who that group of people will be and they will be one short. That's when they will realize that Trinity is pregnant and her child completes the group... A pretty remote possibility but if it happens you heard it here first.

[Conquest10]

What I want to know is how can critics say that Reloaded has no story line and that its "all just action" when we've been about to talk about it for several days

because those people look at this movie as a standalone movie when it is not supposed to be. they criticize the fact that they don't explain why smith can copy himself or neo can stop the sentinels in the real world.

[Conquest10]

...what we are SUPPOSED to think is that Neo has discovered that they were actually still in the Matrix even when they thought they were in the real world. This revelation was too much for his brain to take, and so he went into a coma of sorts. Remember in the first Matrix they said that when you free a mind of a certain age they can't accept the truth and go into a coma or even die. Neo did it the first time, and now he's doing it again.

thats the first thing i noticed too.

[indolikaa]

What I want to know is how can critics say that Reloaded has no story line and that its "all just action" when we've been about to talk about it for several days

Because we have no life, perhaps?

[tgpo]

Wow. ya'll got way more out of that movie and I could ever dream of.