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  1. anyone know if it's possible to burn mpeg-1 (vcd spec) files to dvd? as in...author it like you're burning a vcd. only burn it to dvd. would the dvd player recognize it?
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  2. I would have to say YES to all those questions
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  4. have you done this yourself? i really don't want to waste a dvd, but this seemes fairly easy to do with toast 6.
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    Yes toast 6 its really easy
    2. you could always follow my website. it also works for vcd mpeg files.
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  6. well to save others the time...this does not work. it won't even burn in toast. after i authored the image it said something like "you cannot burn a multitrack image to dvd"
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    no no no, not that way
    you would have to pull the mpeg files out and author it as a dvd. since they are small you can fit a lot, generally 4-6. Author them all as a single dvd then burn.

    using the disk images to dvd wouldnt work
    1. your wasting a lot of dvd empty spage
    2. they are not structured as dvd need to be
    3. you would only get 1 vcd disk this way to be on the dvd, not all 4-6 like you want most likely.
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  8. ok...what i am trying to do here is burn a bunch (like 50) music videos to 1 dvd. they are all vcd mpgs. i have toast 6 and i tried dropping them on the dvd window, but all that will do is re-encode them to dvd spec (which i don't want to do as all that will do is increase the size with the same quality, plus i can only fit like half of them that way). so...is it possible to burn these (as they are...vcd spec) to a dvd and play it in a dvd player?

    i said this in the first post...what i want is to author it the same way as a vcd only burn it to a dvd...so it is like a giant vcd. am i making sense?
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  9. Yes, you can do this, but you will never get 50 videos on the disc. You should be able to get 90 minutes or so. Toast will burn the MPEG1 files as is to DVD, but if the audio is out of spec or the files have been encoded incorrectly, Toast will re-encode them. If the MPEG are using MPG audio it will get converted to PCM.

    Most of the software I've seen that says it makes VCD to spec does't really. Toast VCD/SVCD/DVD are all to spec and the multiplexier is very picky. I've done 20 or so MPEG 1 to a DVD and it worked great. However some of them did have to be re-encoded. You may have to make 2 DVD.
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    perhaps what you can do is pull all the .mpeg's out. combine them toget into one LARGE image file (.bin/.cue) and then burn this liek you would a vcd but use a dvdr. That way its like one large vcd on a dvd disk.

    never tried this myself, but its worth a try
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    that wont work.

    Multitrack mode is not supported for DVD. No burner will burn them as such.

    You can fit up to 6 hours of MPEg1 video on a single DVD-R. I have done it.

    here is a post I made several months ago regarding this issue:

    Even though you can drag more than 800 MB onto toast on the VCD window, it will not burn onto DVD-R. This can be explained very easily -- VCD is actually a CDROM-XA format -- ie, multiple sessions. A DVD-R can only be in a few formats -- UDF, HFS, ISO... Noting that XA is not one of them.

    This can be summed up using the same point that one cannot burn multiple sessions onto a DVD-R.

    Your best bet for moving a lot of VCDs to DVD-R is to use, although frusterating, DVDSP.

    I have had much success with this myself. And you really dont HAVE to create menus, although it is a nice feature.

    Very simply, you perform the following:

    1) Make sure that your source video is NTSC, 29.97 fps @ 352x240 resolution. This is imperative. If your video is NOT at the right resolution, you can simply edit the headers of the file to make DVDSP """THINK""" it is, without any adverse effects. If your frame rate is off, then you have a problem. The best solution i have found for fixing incorrect frame rates involves a very lengthy process, but it is very effective. It requires Toast, Quicktime 6 and Mencoder.

    a) Open the terminal. Type mencoder -ovc lavc -oac pcm /path/to/your/messed/up/framerate.mpg -o /path/to/output/file.AVI -- this is important to make it an AVI. What this syntax will do is transcode your MPEG to a .AVI file with PCM audio. We use PCM because it is just very fast and requires no additional work to get quicktime to play it. Once this process is finished, open the resulting .AVI in quicktime and export using the toast VCD component. Toast VCD component is the only mpeg-1 codec / software i have used for mac that can turn a 5 fps or 15 fps movie into 29.97 without any loss in sync. Snazzy. Alternatively, you can use Quicktime MPEG2 export and just lower the bit rate for the same effect, but the audio will output to PCM which will eat up a lot of space unless converted to another format [MP2, AC-3, etc] so it really is better to use Toast VCD. If you must do multiple files and have Final Cut Express or Pro, you can open FCE, go to FILE and select NEW BIN and then drag all your .AVI files to the new bin. Select all, and click FILE --> EXPORT. So now you have corrected any and all problematic MPEGs and are ready to go to step 2.

    2) Demux every file. a great program for this [i love you Bile] is MPEGPowerTool. The only downside to this program is that is does not support drag and drop. You can batch add every MPEG file, select DEMUX and let it run. Alternatively, you can use FFMPEG or BBDemux [which is GREAT for problematic MPEGs, might i add...] to demux your files. This will result in two files with the same file name as your original, except with different extensions: .m1v for the video, and .mp2 for the audio! Getting there!

    3) You must MUST MUST make every .MP2 [audio] file 48kHz. This can be time consuming, even on a good G4. on my SP 800, it took about 5 hours to reencode 7 hours worth of audio to 48kHz. So you will have to wait. The best program for doing this is, again, I love you Bile, MPEGPowerTool. Batch add every .MP2 file select "RE-ENCODE MP2" and make certain that it is set to 48Khz. DO NOT IGNORE THIS NOTE! Make for sure-fire certain that your output directory is NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT the same as your source directory. Doing this will cause cataclysmic results and force you to go back to the beginning of step 2. So make sure that your output directory is different. Click on ENCODE and grab a bag of popcorn, because watching the terminal re-encode MP2 files is ALMOST as fun as watching paint dry.

    4) So now you have all your .MP2 files with the standard 48kHz ranking. Good for you. And now you have all your compliant .m1v files as well. go ahead and get rid of your source MPEGs and source .MP2 files. Nah, dont delete them JUST IN CASE, but put them in a different folder and move them a good 50 or 60 levels in the heirarchy of your disk. that way they are there if you need them, but out of your way in case you dont. Select all the compliant files and drag them to the DVDSP asset window. Not one should be rejected. If any of them are, please stop reading this and go back to your game of Ikaruga or Mario Party. You can;'t handle this type of thing so stop fooling yourself.

    For this next part, i will walk you through making a DVD without menus. Want menus? Read the manual. buy photoshop or corel and get working!

    After they have all been accepted, figure out exactly how many tracks you are using. And create that many tracks in DVDSP by way of the ADD TRACK button. Name them all accordingly.

    Drag the .m1v file and the correct .MP2 file to the little window of the track in DVDSP. both should be accepted. Do this for each and every movie on an individual basis. Once finished, you need to tell the Disc what to do and when.

    Set the startup action of the disc to the first track you want to be played.

    Click on the first track you want played, and find the JUMP WHEN FINISHED menu on the property viewer. Set the JUMP WHEN FINISHED to the next track you want played. Then click on that track's icon, and find JUMP WHEN FINISHED and set it to the NEXT track you want played. Do this unitl you have come to the last track and either leave the JUMP WHEN FINISHED undefined or do whatever you want. You can set the number of seconds between tracks too, so this is cool.

    When you are all done, I recommend Building the Disc from the FILE menu and NOT formatting the disc. Use Toast for that. The whole DVD burning part of DVDSP just plain sucks.

    You want to preview your video? Guess what? Not happening. DVDSP will correctly play the .MP2 audio of the files, but cannot properly draw the video. Just make for damn sure that you got everything in the right place before you build. It's not that hard.

    Now once and awhile, you MIGHT have a just plain faulty MPEG file and you will get errors when building. Here is how to oevercome that issue:

    Remember the source files you moved into the treacherous chasms of your hard drive? We need the .mpg file... Yeah the orginal. Load it into ffmpegX and use the FAST MPEG-1 PRESET. Use high quality, blah blah blah, and uncheck the box to encode the audio. this saves time, as we already have a fully working audio stream. Click on ENCODE and the terminal pops up, barfs a bunch of crap at you about your file, and a short while later -- POOF! A fresh error free MPEG file... well SORT OF!

    We didnt encode the audio, right? Great! But the file is still an MPEG file without audio and needs to be demuxed. Redundant, right? Good thing all of us programmers we educated at the School of the Redundancy School, right? Whether a shortcoming or a perfectly logical scenerio, whatever. Just DEMUX it.

    You now have the .m1v file, right? Drag in onto DVDSP. Great! What? Really? Wrong aspect ratio? Weird! ffmpeg makes the aspect ratio 1:1! We need 4:3! How to overcome this? EASY. Too easy. thank Ross for this one... This is HOT stuff.

    If your video is at 29.97 fps and the aspect ratio or resolution is wrong, this works as well!!!

    Get HExEdit from HERE! and open the .m1v file. On the VERY VERY VERY first line [ the one with all 0's], this is what it SHOULD look like:





    If it is any different, change the FIRST TWO COLUMNS ONLY to:

    00 00 01 B3 16 00 F0 C4

    [again, on line 0's] leaving the rest untouched. Save it.

    Drag it to DVDSP. Did it work? Good.

    now you can finish your project with ease. Does this sound too hard? It really isnt provided your files are all compliant to begin with. If they are not, and you have these steps committed to memory, it's not hard either. I put two full seasons of one of my favorite TV shows from VCD to DVD-R having to use all these steps because of faulty files, complete with menus, Jacket art, and a disc label, completely finished in roughly 4 hours of my undivided time. Although much more time was spent doing processes that didnt involve me being in front of the machine.

    So there you have it... My 2¢ on putting MPEG-1 files onto DVD.

    I hope you found this helpful. Please feel free to correct me and add to this at any time.

    Have a nice day.
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    Once again, Zero Six saves the day
    I just tested my SVCD to DVD method with some VCD's it works also. Though its a little more of a "non standard" method, but the dvd's play fine on my player. cant say it will work for everone.

    Just pretend you have SVCD when you really have VCD and your mpeg2 is just a mpeg1 (when looking at my tutorial)
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  13. heh...after reading that i was gonna say the same thing. "zerosix to the rescue...again" so why aren't you a mod yet?

    i'm saving this and i'll post my results as soon as i try it. thank you.
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  14. ffmpegX 0.0.8 has a new tool to automate the above process of reauthoring one or more VCD / SVCD into a DVD.
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    i was gonna suggest that as well. Save yourself the trouble. Buy ffmpegX and do it the automated way.
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  16. I have a few VCD's made on a Terapin VCD Recorder which I cannot put on DVD. I opened up one disc and found 6 folders on it :

    CDDA - Zero KB
    CDI - Zero KB
    EXT - Zero KB
    MPEGAV - 643.9 MB
    SEGMENT - Zero KB
    VCD - 4 KB

    Within the MPEGAV folder there is a file MUSIC01.DAT. This is the only item that I can drag into Toast 6 and I get an IO error - 36.

    Is this due to the fact that maybe the Terapin used some sort of proprietary format to write this VCD? Maybe this is not a true VCD after all, even though it plays fine in my Pioneer DVD player.
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  17. that's good news major...i'll check that out.

    jamerican..a friend has the same vcd recorder and i have not been able to figure out a way to copy the files it records back to my computer. neither toast/vcdtoolsX or vcd copy X will work. well they do a little, but the file is severely screwed up.
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    OS X does not correctly handle VCDs as they are XA discs. To copy the MPEGAV.DAT [which is the video file] you need to use VCDCopyX.

    http://www.ns-software.com/VCDCopyX/
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  19. Originally Posted by ZeroSix
    OS X does not correctly handle VCDs as they are XA discs. To copy the MPEGAV.DAT [which is the video file] you need to use VCDCopyX.

    http://www.ns-software.com/VCDCopyX/
    Thanks, ZeroSix. I will try it and see what happens.
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    jamerican,

    I also have the same problem with my Terapin VCD recorder..what I do is simply extract the DAT file with VCDEasy, convert it to an Mpeg file,
    then.. it STILL has proprietary headers in it. so I have to RE-Encode it to vcd mpeg 1 format with TmegEnc...that way I have NEW, DIFFERENT headers, THEN I can copy the video file with VCDEasy; since the Terapin has DVD compatible resolution.. I can also use TmpgEnc DVD Author to compile up to 6 hours of mpeg files into ONE DVD folder, ready to be burned into a DVD Does'nt look bad at all.. except the video quality is still gonna be VCD mpeg 1.
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    ^^^WARNING: WINDOZE USER ABOVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!^^^

    VCD Copy X will work for you.
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    Originally Posted by Thargok
    ^^^WARNING: WINDOZE USER ABOVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!^^^
    I wonder why they come in here and post this stuff.... I wish there was a rule that said if PC answers are posted in a mac forum you get a warning....
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