Sonic to Ulead render HELP!!!

[noslow]

Hi..
I'm having long time problems on this one & I need some help BAD... Running an XP PRO OS I captue video using "Sonic MyDvD" ware..

"Sonic MyDvD" project settings:

Parameter NTSC (525 lines at 59.94 Hz) PAL (625 lines at 50 Hz)
Frame size (width x height) 720 x 480 pixels 720 x 576 pixels
Display frame rate 29.97 fps 25 fps
Group of pictures (GOP) size
(see Note) 36 fields/18 frames maximum
30 fields/15 frames recommended 30 fields/15 frames maximum
24 fields/12 frames recommended
GOP structure Closed. IBP or IBBP
Output aspect ratio 4:3 (standard TV) or 16:9 anamorphic (widescreen TV)
Bit-rate
(CBR or VBR) Minimum 2.0 Mbps
Maximum 8.0 Mbps
See Choosing bit-rates for DVD for more information.
Profile and level Main profile and main level (MP@ML)
VBV buffer size 224 KB (1,835,008 bits)
GOP sequence header interval 1 per GOP (one sequence header before every GOP)
Filename extension .m2p, .m2v, .mp2, .mpg, .mpeg, .mpv
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"UVS 7 project settings"
NTSC drop frame (29.97 fps)
MPEG files
24 Bits, 720 x 480, 29.97 fps
Frame-based
(MPEG-2)
Video data rate: 8000 kbps
Audio data rate: 224 kbps
MPEG audio layer 2, 44.1 KHz, Stereo

Hers's my problem & I'll add that it's NOT a problem that has always done as so. When I go & take ANY "captured" clip or vids over into my "UVS7" ware to make some edits & cuts I run into RENDERING HELL
I mean, it's as if UVS 7 is re-encoding every edited clip..

I can save & render any "UNEDITED" cuts at a normal reasonable speed in UVS 7! As it should... BUT! As soon as I go & cut or edit any captured vid. in the UVS wares my problem of RENDER HELL kicks in!

I've hit my head over this & have looked at all attributes for both my Sonic & UVS 7 wares & see nothing a miss! And i've even checked all my "virtual mem. paging file, all DMA settings". I've re-installed wares, drivers, even my os a few times. All settings & attributes look cool & the same or even just as when all had ran and worked fine before...

And also here's one more strange note i'll add: when each rendered clip gets to 91% , it really LAGS down more & takes even longer... ha!

Anyway go figure, I'm ALL at a lost on this & im asking around here now looking for some any help or suggestions maybe on this one? So please HELP me if ya can, & sorry so long, but I wanted to lay it ALL out...

Thanks..

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[FOO]

You are probably trying to edit MPEG2 in VS7.
You must set output settings to "same as project" and have "smart render" on. This assumes that project settings are set to whatever the input is.

If you have pulled down FILM or IVTC video - give up if you want audio.

I think the bitrate is too high also.

...and the audio is 48000 for DVD

[noslow]

Yes. I am trying to edit MPEG2 720x480 in VS7. It's the way I save my files. As i've done Tons of times. When UVS is working correct, I could edit out commercials on a 30 min. show & then render out the edited clip in UVS7 in about 3 min. Now? It's takes about an hr. are more "as described" before. Something is just a miss somewhere...... Also, as I said before, all my attributes & output settings in my template settings be it the "same as project" and "smart render" are on. I know the audio is 48000 for DVD...

[Specialist]

Something is just a miss somewhere

I suspect your Ulead VideoStudio 7 project settings need to be tweaked to precisely match both the video and the audio attributes of your source clips.

Also - make sure your source clips do not have varying attributes.

For example, when I work with MPEG-2 recorded by my Panasonic DVD disc camcorder, I observe the following attributes:

NTSC drop frame (29.97 fps)
MPEG files
24 Bits, 704 x 480, 29.97 fps
Field Order B
(DVD-NTSC), 4 : 3
Video data rate: Variable (Max. 8800 kbps)
Audio data rate: 256 kbps
MPEG audio layer 2, 48 KHz, Stereo

With this information, I adjust my Ulead VideoStudio 7 project settings to precisely *match.*

No re-rendering of the source video occurs - except where titles, transitions, filters, or any such *changes* have been made in the timeline.

This is how Ulead Smart Render technology functions.

Jerry Jones
http://www.jonesgroup.net

[noslow]

Thanks for the input Specialist

I have looked, looked, looked & troubleshot to the point where my face is now a COOL BLUE UVS7 shade in color! lol.. All of my Sonic MyDvd captured file attributes *do look to match* all settings in UVS 7

I also thought this was, or IS a *mismatched attributes* deal? but I see nalt. Kinda thought that the slow down render spot at the *91%* mark might had gave someone a clue as to maybe just what the hell is going on? I've actually been looking around about an hr. or two tonight just tring some dif. settings & ideas.... plus, I have another thing im gonna try tomorrow and it's going to be some test between both my two drives.. One never knows?


Anyway, thanks for the suggestions & i'll keep looking! Maybe & hopefully soon............?

[noslow]

Well, I have discovered something very crazy with my *RENDERS* just now! When I load a Sonic captured mpeg2 file over into *Ulead* to edit out & cut here's what im seeing. Usually i'll have a 30min show that will need 4 commercial breaks removed. After all edits I have 4 clips that i'll need to render up making a 21:00.00mins. mpeg2 file.

Now, two different things are happening here. If for instance, say if I select to just save like the 1st clip out of the 4 edited clips I made from inside the *Edit* window part of UVS7..... even though this clip is only like *8-9 mins.* long the render save on this clip is ACTUALLY saving the whole 30min. unedited file as if it wasn't even edited are cut! LOL...

And now for the second thing... If I take all 4 edited clips into the *Share* Create a video room in UVS7 ? Well this is whats going on... The 1st 34% of the rendering, being @ about 2mins all goes along fine. But, at that 34% then the actual preview starts showing in the window & then things come to a CRAWL from there on out. I never did let it finish seeing how something way wrong slow & a miss!



Anyway, that's my crazy rendering
happenings as of today... LOL HAHA!

[Specialist]

Suggestion.

Change your workflow.

Why not capture with Ulead?

It works.

Jerry Jones
http://www.jonesgroup.net

[noslow]

Suggestion.

Change your workflow.

Why not capture with Ulead?

It works.
Jerry Jones
http://www.jonesgroup.net

I tried to.. But, for a few reasons I don't. For starters, I wouldn't be scared or hesitate one sec. to start up a long capture in my Sonic & just walk off & comeback hrs later to click & save. I seemed to always drop frames in VS7, and I wasn't really happy with the out come on my finalized captured dvd burns, especially in comparison with the Sonic captures on a 32" screen. And for me, Sonic has gave me the Best looking 720x480 captures & has been the most Staple capture ware I've ever seen & used so far. :==)

Then again? I still want & need my UVS7 to WORK again... I'm still messed up with it..

[noslow]

And just for the record on my UVS7 fun, even if or when I do capture in UVS7 & go to edit or make cuts for that captured file? Well, my "then edited file" will NOT remain cut & edited! Cause, when I go to save or render that edited file....??? VS7 still saves it as if it were still at the WHOLE unedited captured file with & at its orignal sz. & length.... LOL.... .