my copies now jump & skip mid way through the movie?

[adamjb]

Im using a new Pioneer A06 in a new P4 2.8ghz 800fsb Asus P4p800 MB 512mb dual channel Giel RAM.
The first 26 Movies Ive copied play perfectly in all types of standalone players. Then all of a sudden, for no apparent reason, any DVD I copy now only plays until approx half way through, then it starts jumping, pausing, skipping & eventually goes to crap!! Ive tried reauthoring them, Ive uninstalled & reinstalled my programs. The decrypted Vob files play OK in WIN DVD, but the burnt copies have this annoying issue! Ive only ever used Laser 4x media (purple dye) & they've all worked until now (Im halfway through a spindle of 20 discs) Now all I get is nothing but coasters that play half way through!
Softwares used: Decrypter, shrink, IFO edit, Img Tool then burn with decrypter.
Please help me with any advice, Is this new burner stuffed??
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[Faustus]

Have you ran ADVDInfo for DVDinfo to find out who really makes those disc?

[adamjb]

Alright, DVDnfo advises the media is princo, what else should I be looking for in DVDInfo regarding my problem? Do you know if princo is poor media? Im just not understanding why this is happening all of a sudden though? To me it seems to be where the layer change would occur. Does some media have issues with this?

[Faustus]

Some swear by Prince, other say that after a while burns start to have problems like your. I'd try better media personally.

[adamjb]

Thanks for your advice, although Im not convinced its a media issue, I will try a different brand of disc as a start & if it is found to be poor media, Im returning them all for a refund (Im sick of crap products!)

[busipaln]

Princo is Top notch media, i dont hink your problem lies there.

I experienced a similar problem, except every dvd i tried to burn, errored at 100%, and the odd few that worked, jumped half way through. Then i realised it was a windows update that i did. removed the update and all works fine now.

Check that u havent applied any updates or patches to your system, since the date of the problem.

[adamjb]

Really? This might sound stupid, but Ive never had to uninstall a Windows update before, how should I go about doing this? Im running XP Professional

[Gurm]

Well, it's hard to do, you can go to Windows Update and do "view installation history". Once you figure out what the recent ones were, you can USUALLY uninstall them from the Control Panel's "add/remove programs" applet. The issue of course is WHICH one you're looking for and whether IT has an uninstaller or not.

Have you tried other programs, just out of curiosity? Or different methods? I mean, try backing up a DVD-5 using JUST DVD Decryptor.

- Gurm

[busipaln]

you can do one of two things

1) go to the control pannel and add remove programs, that usually has any windows updates u have done, find the one u have installed and uninstall.

2) Easier way is to rollback your system to when everthing worked fine, Go to start, programs, accessories, system tools, and system restore. Pick a date that you know everything was ok, and restore to that point.
This will remove any updates added from that date to now.

Keep us updated on your progress

[adamjb]

Thank you for this advice, it seems logical to me that this is the most probable cause, here is a jpeg from DVDinfo of a copy made last night. Note the amount of read error evident (unreal isnt it!)

[adamjb]

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[adamjb]

Ok, Ive rolled back my system, made a new copy. There are no read errors found on the new copy, it still gives skips & pauses on my standalone LG DVD player (which is only 6 months old). But it doesn't skip on my DVD-ROM ??
I think I may have solved half the problem, but it is still skipping at approx half the way through the disc.
Any more ideas on this?
I would like to try cleaning the laser, does anyone know the best way to do this?

[ddlooping]

adamjb, what version of Le Shrink are you using?

A bug was fixed in beta 5 that might have caused the problem you're experiencing.

[Faustus]

Princo is Top notch media, i dont hink your problem lies there.

Uhm, its hardly top notch, some would argue that its bottom notch. You might want to run a Kprobe on some of your Princos.

[defense]

Uhm, its hardly top notch, some would argue that its bottom notch. You might want to run a Kprobe on some of your Princos.

When I read that earlier today I damn near cried. I was looking for an emoticon that would indicate laughing hysterically while crying at the same time....I couldn't find one..so I figured i'd leave it be....but how can you NOT laugh reading stuff like that.

[adamjb]

WANKER!!!!

[adamjb]

ddlooping, I was using Shrink Beta 1, have now upgraded to beta5, but the problem still remains. thanks your advice though.

[adamjb]

I HAVE TRIED ALL YOUR ADVICES & THE PROBLEM IS STILL OCCURRING. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY FURTHER CLUES ON THIS. The difference between before I rolled back & now is the Read errors occur at the end of the disc instead of the middle.

[Comfy]

Adam,
I have EXACTLY the same problem with EXACTLY the same drive.
All worked well for about 20 odd copies... then then all skip at the end of films!
I have no idea what is going on but I think the drives we have bought may have an inherant fault.
Please reply onto here and email me at grahamhignett@excite.com.

Cheers!
Gray

[adamjb]

Hi Graham, I will contact you via your email address.
adam

[BODYBUILDER]

hey adam check this out and check my post there hopefully it may help you https://www.videohelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=170603

[adamjb]

Thanks for your help bb, I might just try doing this (format) & see how I go. Though I'm currently running XP as NTFS & the PC is only 6 weeks old.

If formatting my C drive ammends this problem, I'll be very curious to know what it was that caused the problem in the first place. Will keep you posted,
thanks again.
Adam

[BODYBUILDER]

Hey adam the best thing to do is, refresh your computer and only install the needed applications.

But the thing is those laser discs you have bought are probally not compatible with your burner, it may burn but it wont burn well at certain points of the movie, best thing to do for this problem is try getting a firmware update for your dvd writer from http://www.firmware-flash.com/

and remember beware of the dust on the DVD-R before inserting in the DVD Writer Drive, the dust has caused me many problems.

so remember to also check this out
http://www.bealecorner.com/trv900/DVD/DVD-dust.html

if the firmware update or the dust removal does not fix this problem then simply start buying a different Brand of DVD-R Discs even if you used to use the same brand, as my cousin has expierenced the same problem he used to use the same media as he does now and has encoutered this problem recently because the manafactuer that makes the discs has obviously changed them in some way and is now incompatible with your dvd writer

[hunkyman]

Hi, I have had the same problem with the end of the DVD would start jumping and then freeze,with my TEAC DV-W50D, which I belive is a copy of the Pioneer A06. But I have found a way to fix my problem and that was to change the IDE port on my mother board, so now it is the master on the secondary IDE port and nothing connected to the slave port. I dont know why it now works OK but it does.
I have done 10 copies so far and all OK, I am using window XP Pro with FAT32, but I also have windows XP installed on another hard drive with NTFS and the problem was occuring on that system as well. I am using the same DVD media from the same batch and I am using the same DVD player to watch them.
Maybe some who knows more about computers can explain why this has fixed the problem, as I would be intrested.
Maybe this can help the other people with the same problem.

[LanEvo7]

Have you tried a different media? It seems like a media trouble. Princo's have been notorious for having issues with skipping, freezing, pixilation if you burn them over 3.9gbs. Go out to the local electronics store and get a pack of TDK, Maxells or Apples.

[cellmaniac]

How fast are you burning the movies? I have an older Pioneer A03 and when trying to burn a movie at 2X using Apple media, it freezes and skips like crazy...but when burning at 1X the freezing goes away. My A05 burns perfectly at 2x, even using 1x rated media.

I agree with the previous post recommending that you try another brand of media, such as Apple, Verbatim, or Ritek. Also try to burn at a slower rate too.

[musotechy]

Have you recently installed any software that monitors the DVD writer? Something like Nero will do it. It installs a little program that constantly monitors the drives activity (A known issue with programs like DVDX Copy Express) Also check for any background resources being used and TSR's. Defrag regular

[orbital517]

Have you tried a different media? It seems like a media trouble. Princo's have been notorious for having issues with skipping, freezing, pixilation if you burn them over 3.9gbs. Go out to the local electronics store and get a pack of TDK, Maxells or Apples.

I'd have to agree with LanEvo7. You've tried just about everything EXCEPT using different media. Princo discs are notorious for skipping, freezing, etc so why not go out to your local media store and pick up a 5 pack of "quality" media, and see if that solves your problem. If it does, then you'll know better next time to pick up those junk discs.

[northcat_8]

Some would argue that Princo are Top Notch Not me.

Ritek is on top of the media mountain. I burn at 4x on Ritek04 media and have never had a skipping or failure to play problem.

For the record, I think your problem is bad media. If you burnt 26 movies and they worked just fine the problem is not in your process. I realize that you probably burnt to Princo's then also but that doesn't make them good that makes you lucky.

Try this, when you get your DVD shrunk down ready to burn, play it from the VIDEO_TS folder or load the ISO into Daemon Tools and play the video from there....if it skips then playing in WinDVD or PowerDVD then the problem exists in your process...IE...before burning, if it plays fine the problem exists in your burning, which means you either up graded your firmware, or you have bad media. Decrypter sure didn't change.

Just a suggestion.

[hunkyman]

Thanks for the tip of the media, but I had tried different media, including TDK and the TEAC 4x disc that come with the DVDR but I still had the same problem, but it was not as often.
Just to let you know, that previously I have had my DVDR connected to an IDE port that could be used for mirroring the hard drive, Hence I have for IDE ports on my mother board.
Also since I have changed my IDE port I can write at 4x and the buffer will stay at 100% while recording (it even goes upto 4.2x) which takes about 15 minutes.
I have now done a whole spindle of 50 DVD-r's and all OK. I am not saying this is the problem for everyone, but I had tried every thing else and could not fix the problem, also I dont know why the first 20 or so worked OK?
Thanks again.