VHS PAL60 to PAL conversion

[sam01]

Read everything possible on this subject. Using a PAL JVC VCR with NTSC tapes output format like all over Europe is PAL60. Can be played on TV can't be digitially converted with my ADVC-100. Is there any simple way to convert PAL60 to REAL PAL ? All what I saw are very expensive converters.

[Poplar]

This topic has been discussed before. Please do a forum search. The consensus seemed to be: post-processing with Avisynth.

Here you go:
https://www.videohelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=484056&highlight=#484056

[sam01]

Thank you Poplar. Apparently I missed this section. Seems VERY VERY complicated (at least to me). As mentioned in one of the replies a detailed guide for this is required. I will continue to look for a hardware solution. By the way one simple solution can be recording the NTSC tape to another PAL VCR (yes, you loose some quality) but then you may have a true PAL format.

[roach76]

Like you said, the tapes are NTSC. The settings on your video to output PAL 60 is a way that your video plays NTSC video on a TV that can't display NTSC. So the video is actually NTSC. At least I think so......gulp.

[sam01]

The VCR is pure PAL. When playing NTSC tapes it converts only the color scheme hence the output is PAL60 and not PAL (PAL50). Unfortunately digital conversion to a computer do not recognize this pseudo PAL. Found on the internet some video convereters that do it at around $US 60. What I need to convert is the PAL60 to real PAL (PAL60). Will see whether I can get hold of one.

[ironwood321]

What you need is either one of four things.

1) You could use a standards converter these are around the £300 mark
2) You could buy a multi standard video which outputs true NTSC 3.38
3) You could buy a NTSC recorder and USA 110V transformer and play it on a true NTSC video.
4) You could get someone to convert the tape to say proper PAL for you.

[roach76]

What I meant was is that you have a PAL VCR that is capable of playing NTSC tapes that can display them as either NTSC or PAL(60). Depending on what you set it to, which depends if your TV can display NTSC or not.

Your PAL VCR, if set based on your TV's capability to display NTSC or not, will play the NTSC Tape as NTSC (which is really what the tape is) if your TV "CAN" display NTSC. Or as PAL(60) if your TV can't.

That's what I meant, I think I got the words around the right way now

[sam01]

You are correct. But my old JVC 220 VCR is really a dumb machine there are no settings for the outputs. When he reads PAL it send PAL when it reads NTSC it sends PAL60. Well, I will report when I find a suitable solution.

[pete671]

I had this sort of problem and it is a real pain. Do you have any software to save video files to tape? If so you could record the tape using DScaler (it has a PAL60 option) then output the resultant video file to a PAL tape.

[ironwood321]

It could have changed since the last time I used it but the trouble with descaler is that it cannot handle the full reslution of the video but half the resolution when doing PAL 60

[sam01]

Thanks for the comments everyone. Software is not a good solution since the input to my Canopus ADVC-100 must be real PAL. All other software methods are cumbersome and reduce quality.

In the meantime I found a nice and expensive converter (see http://www.scancom.ltd.uk/products/cyp/cdm-630.htm) but it is so expensive so a multi-system-format VCR is much cheaper.