Problem ripping DVDs made with the new Panasonic DMR-80

[shhas]

Here is the problem.

I recently got the new Panansonic DMR-80 DVD recorder with the 80 gig hard drive. Great machine! Everything pretty much checked out until yesterday when I decided to copy a home made DVD that I had made on this recorder. Well, to make the long story short, I cannot.

I made several DVDs with this but every single one fails to be copied/ripped!!

I am not new at this, and I have been doing this for some time now. I threw everything I had at them. I tried DVD Decrypter, Smart Ripper with and without AnyDVD. I tried to copy plain...etc...

Power DVD chokes on them on two different computers. But, WinDVD plays them with some hesitancy.

On ripping, it keeps giving me a read error. Sometimes it give me "error, cyclic redundany check". I get hunderd or so "broken blocks" with Smart Ripper!

Here is the peculiar part. All these DVDs play without any problem of any kind in multiple standalone DVD players and in great quality.

The only thing I have not changed is my media (Optodisc). But, I have been using Optodisc literally hunderds of times without this problem.
But again, if it is the media, how come they all play just fine in standalone players. Usually, it is the opposite (most people can play their DVDRs on the computer but have problem with standalones)

Any input is appreciated.

[Bob W]

Did you finalize the DVD-R disc? If not that's the problem. I have the E50 and have ripped a DVD-R made from it with SmartRipper. If you're using a DVD-RAM disc then most DDVD drives won't read them at all (I had to buy a drive thats reads the format).

[shhas]

Yes, they are finalized and are on DVD-R not DVD-RAM.

As stated, they play fine on multiple standalones. You cannot play non-finalized DVDs or DVD-RAM on regular DVD players.

I just cannot rip/copy them!

This is very strange.

[Bob W]

You got me since I was able to rip on a win2000 box using a LiteON 166 DVD drive.

I do have one thought. I think if you have copy protection enabled in the E80 menu or setup then that could be the problem.

[Jukka]

If they were made on the DMR they wont be css encrypted so you should be able to just drag and drop from the DVD to the PC. Shouldn't you?

[sapiendut]

There is nothing wrong with the recording per-se. It seems like your reader can't read it properly, that's all.

My Pioneer 116 is usually having problems ripping DVDs I made using Panasonic DMR-E30. The two Pioneer 119, however, have no problem ripping them.

[verchad]

I've got a panasonic dmr-hs2 and have used the copy dvd function of Nero version 5.5.9.9 to make copies of my wedding video. They have come out perfectly with a variety of dvd-r's used. I am using a cendyne/pioneer 104 dvd-r in my pc for the backup.

[handyguy]

You can't use those programs cuz the Panasonic wrote your files with the extension of *.vbr not VOB..... try it look at your files.

Thus, use Nero dvd copy, don't decode them cause they aren't encoded.

[Bob W]

You can't use those programs cuz the Panasonic wrote your files with the extension of *.vbr not VOB..... try it look at your files.

Thus, use Nero dvd copy, don't decode them cause they aren't encoded.

The files my Panasonic E50 writes are VOB.

[andydd]

Dunno wot handyguy is on about..if you record to a DVD-R with a panny..It jusy makes nnormal VOB files in a Video_ts folder. However if u use a DVD Ram disc it records VRO files..but never VBR !

[CHAOS]

I also have been trying to find out about ripping my files from the dvd-ram to my hard drive and no progams will do it, & they are not .vbr on ram.
I also tried just copy & pasting and then used DVD2AVI & then TMPGEnc and it seemed to work but when burned to a dvd+rw it seemed a little jerky when played back ? might have been because the source was vhs & i am going to try a laserdisc next but i figured copying & pasting was not the best way, must be a program that will rip the files to the hd ? tried ISOBuster and it looks like it would do it but you have to register it to do it.
Was hoping someone could say for sure before i paid for it or let us in on another program that will do it.

[edlav]

I have to E60 and made some copies from VHS yesterday. I used DVD Decrypter to read an ISO to my hard drive then write that to a DVD-R with no problems.

[handyguy]

There were other posts saying to rename the file extension to VOB. So, I assumed they were something else.

But mentioned above, using ISO mode should work too, as should any regular dvd copy program.

[CHAOS]

i can see the files on the dvd-ram but how do i get them to my hard drive to edit and re-encode to burn back to a dvd+r ?
ISOBuster will let me see them but it says i have to register it to rip them from the disc, DVDDecrypter keeps giving me a I/O error & says Disc Authentication Failed - Reason: Failed To Get Disc Key & SmartRipper Won't read the drive or disc at all ??

well, how can you rename files on a dvd-ram
And for some reason, as i stated in another post, i can't seem to get any ripping programs to open the "dvd-ram"
Never had this problem with any disc before, but then i've never had dvd-ram before

[CHAOS]

I have to E60 and made some copies from VHS yesterday. I used DVD Decrypter to read an ISO to my hard drive then write that to a DVD-R with no problems.

edlav
What format did you record the vhs to with your recorder ? dvd-ram or a dvd-r ?
you said you said you burned it back to dvd-r, but burning back is not the problem