Anyway to disable the macrovision on a Panasonic DMR-E50?

[Bob W]

I want to back up several of my old original VHS tapes to DVD-R, however a couple of them the Panasonic won't let me copy (even with my Sima CopyMaster installed).

[FulciLives]

Hello

There is a product made by AV TOOLBOX called the "AVT-8710 Time Base Corrector"

I don't have this unit myself (though I do intend to buy one eventually once I have the ummm money hehehe) but a few users on this forum site have stated that it breaks any and all copy protection including not just VHS source videos but also from DVD players.

The price is $179.00 plus shipping but it sure sounds like an essential tool to have if you use a stand alone DVD recorder. And yes the users here that have said this device breaks ALL forms of copy protection have been using it with (mostly Panasonic brand) stand alone DVD recorders.

Good Luck!

- John "FulciLives" Coleman

Here is a direct link:
http://www.avtoolbox.com/avt-8710.htm

[Bob W]

I wonder if this gadget would work? It says it's for going from DVD to VHS but maybe it works the other way around. Also it's only $25.
http://www.lik-sang.com/info.php?category=9&products_id=1365&

[ckdexterhn1]

Here's one that I use, although I didn't pay that much for it -

http://www.cable-descrambler-importers.com/digitaldvdstabilizer.htm

I brought mine back in the 90's for $5 at a discount store. They had hundreds of them! I already had a similar model I got at a local video store for $59, so I just brought one to see if it would work like my more expensive one, and it did. I went back that afternoon...every single one gone! Sold out!

I use mine with my Panasonic E50, no problems what so ever.

Here's another one that is less expensive -

http://www.herbach.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=HAR&Product_Code=T...egory_Code=ADV

[Bob W]

Here's one that I use, although I didn't pay that much for it -

http://www.cable-descrambler-importers.com/digitaldvdstabilizer.htm

I brought mine back in the 90's for $5 at a discount store. They had hundreds of them! I already had a similar model I got at a local video store for $59, so I just brought one to see if it would work like my more expensive one, and it did. I went back that afternoon...every single one gone! Sold out!

I use mine with my Panasonic E50, no problems what so ever.

Here's another one that is less expensive -

http://www.herbach.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=HAR&Product_Code=T...egory_Code=ADV

Hey thanks. Funny thing is I had one of the devices in the second link but can't seem to locate it since I moved.

[FulciLives]

For anyone considering a cheap alternative I would like to point out that the aforementioned "AVT-8710 Time Base Corrector" disables ALL forms of copy protection ... this means not just MACROVISION but also CGMS/A

I doubt a cheap device will do all that. I mean the SIMA thing is supposed to eliminate copy protection but as people have found out it often does not work.

I've read enough posts that seem to indicate to me that the "AVT-8710 Time Base Corrector" works ALL THE TIME and works VERY WELL.

- John "FulciLives" Coleman

P.S.
Some VHS videos have more than just MACROVISION on them ... some can have a form of CGMS/A as well

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Disney is tough.

Has anybody figured out a way to back up tapes to the EM-30 that defeates the protection.

I ask because I own my tapes and have been pleased that I have figured out a way.

Does anybody else feel they have a solution?

[Bob W]

Disney is tough.

Has anybody figured out a way to back up tapes to the EM-30 that defeates the protection.

I ask because I own my tapes and have been pleased that I have figured out a way.

Does anybody else feel they have a solution?

Err, care to share your knowledge with us?

[ckdexterhn1]

Well, like I said before, I've had mine since the 90's and I've never had a problem copying any tape.

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Disney is tough.

Has anybody figured out a way to back up tapes to the EM-30 that defeates the protection.

I ask because I own my tapes and have been pleased that I have figured out a way.

Does anybody else feel they have a solution?

Err, care to share your knowledge with us?

I have to search my comments. Do you capture with an AIW?

[Bob W]

No I gave up on capturing and bought a DVD recorder which does a much better job and in "real time".

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No I gave up on capturing and bought a DVD recorder which does a much better job and in "real time".

Dude you're too smart. Do me a favor and get smart again. We got a problem here.

[next]

No I gave up on capturing and bought a DVD recorder which does a much better job and in "real time".

Once again I stand corrected. You get it. Sorry for my previous comment.

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https://www.videohelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=170803&highlight=

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Please no yellow flag here.

I realize its been too many posts.

Educational only.

[urbanlegend]

Here's one that I use, although I didn't pay that much for it -

http://www.cable-descrambler-importers.com/digitaldvdstabilizer.htm

I brought mine back in the 90's for $5 at a discount store. They had hundreds of them! I already had a similar model I got at a local video store for $59, so I just brought one to see if it would work like my more expensive one, and it did. I went back that afternoon...every single one gone! Sold out!

I use mine with my Panasonic E50, no problems what so ever.

Here's another one that is less expensive -

http://www.herbach.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=HAR&Product_Code=T...egory_Code=ADV

I have one that looks exactly like the one from the first line above and my brother-in-law has the one that looks like the second one form the the link above. They both disable macrovision but NOT all forms. I believe it disables level 1 macrovision, thats about it.

[verchad]

I also have one of these little black boxes. It has worked for backing up my vhs to panasonic dmr-hs2. Have backed up many of the difficult types of movies talked about. Occasionally have had problems with a few movies. I replaced the original battery and it helped. If you get one of these don't pay too. Chack out ebay, they are on there for around $20. I wouldn't spend much more than that if you're not 100% sure it will work with your setup.


ckdexterhn1 wrote:
Here's one that I use, although I didn't pay that much for it -

http://www.cable-descrambler-importers.com/digitaldvdstabilizer.htm

I brought mine back in the 90's for $5 at a discount store. They had hundreds of them! I already had a similar model I got at a local video store for $59, so I just brought one to see if it would work like my more expensive one, and it did. I went back that afternoon...every single one gone! Sold out!

I use mine with my Panasonic E50, no problems what so ever.

Here's another one that is less expensive -

http://www.herbach.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=HAR&Product_Code=T...egory_Code=ADV

[Bob W]

A lot of good information here so thanks. Also I ran across another VHS/DVD decoder that looks interesting. Check it out here.
http://www.lik-sang.com/info.php?category=13&products_id=2950

[Bob W]

Well today I received this device http://www.facetvideo.com/ and here are my results for those interested in recording VHS to DVD recorder or DVD player to DVD recorder.

VHS to DVD recorder: Defeats macrovision and recorded movie playback from my Panasonic E50 recorder is acceptable considering the source. Actually as always the playback is slightly better than the VHS tape on the E50 recorder. I guess this is due to the TBC (time base corrector) built into the E50.

DVD player to DVD recorder: After finding a DVD that the recorder would reject due to macrovision or whatever, I put the device in the line and it defeats the copy protection just fine. Playback quality of the recorded movie is outstanding IMO, almost as good as ripping the DVD and burning on my computer DVD burner.

The only bad thing I noticed was when my VCR is connected but not playing the static screen is in a slow roll as if out of sync. When the DVD player is connected but not playing the screen is rock stable so the VCR rolling could simply be a function of my VCR. I have another VCR so I may hook that up and see if it does the same thing. When either the VCR or DVD are in the play mode the sync is stable.

Bottom line is that this device does work as advertised and I'm pleased that I have one less issue to worry about.

[Captain Satellite]

For anyone considering a cheap alternative I would like to point out that the aforementioned "AVT-8710 Time Base Corrector" disables ALL forms of copy protection ... this means not just MACROVISION but also CGMS/A

I doubt a cheap device will do all that. I mean the SIMA thing is supposed to eliminate copy protection but as people have found out it often does not work.

I've read enough posts that seem to indicate to me that the "AVT-8710 Time Base Corrector" works ALL THE TIME and works VERY WELL.

- John "FulciLives" Coleman

P.S.
Some VHS videos have more than just MACROVISION on them ... some can have a form of CGMS/A as well

All brains and no money, man, that must suck. :P

[moviewatcher]

Hello,
Has anyone tried the GoDVD model from Sima on the Panasonic DMR-E50? If so, how well does it work?

product page:

http://www.simacorp.com/products/item.ep.html?id=477

[Gaulois]

I just purshased a Panasonic DMR-E55S for $277.00. It is a very good product, but I was confused to read that with DVD-R it was not possible to record on 16:9. For wide screen I had to use DVD-RAM. I was kind of ticked off, until I recorded a movie (ID4), which at the end, shows letterbox on a DVD-R. I guess, the manual is not very well made . So it is possible to record letterbox on DVD-R.

The point of this forum is copyguard. So, I also bought a SIMA CT2. And I will agree, it removes any copyguard. I had a small problem on an old tape I bought 15 years ago (Adv. of baron Muchausen), the picture was still a bit greenish. And I found that if the SIMA CT2 removes every copyguard on DVD's, I still have the copyguards from the tapes. After I place the tape in my VCR, and fast forward to the bigining of the movie, the copyguard shows up. At this point, I have to turn off my VCR, then turned it back on, and the copyguard is gone. SIMA also offers a very nice black and white, I don't know if I will ever use it, but it is extremely nice and crisp.

[FulciLives]

I just purshased a Panasonic DMR-E55S for $277.00. It is a very good product, but I was confused to read that with DVD-R it was not possible to record on 16:9. For wide screen I had to use DVD-RAM. I was kind of ticked off, until I recorded a movie (ID4), which at the end, shows letterbox on a DVD-R. I guess, the manual is not very well made . So it is possible to record letterbox on DVD-R.

You can record 16x9 source material onto a DVD-R but the DVD-R will be "flagged" as being 4:3

It will play back normally on a true 16x9 screen but on a 4:3 TV it will not appear correct because the DVD player will not know it needs to resize from 16x9 to 4:3 since the DVD is telling the DVD player that it is 4:3 when it really is 16x9

- John "FulciLives" Coleman