problem with soundquality

[kimpan]

When I encode my movies they all have bad sound
I usually encode with 256 kbit sound but in high frequency the sound sounds very strange. I use toolame and I have tryed with both 44khz and 48.. what is the problem? anybody got any idees of how to get good sound quality?

[d4n13l]

What do you watch them on?
Make sure that you use the exact settings for audio.
VCD - 44.1KHz 224 Kbit.
Some DVD players have difficulty in replaying different audio settings than these.

[kimpan]

But the mpeg files sounds bad even befor burning them, They sound bad with windows media player too.

[d4n13l]

Give a bit more info. What processes/steps/programs are you using?

[kimpan]

I first use smartripper, then I use dvd2avi (havent set any new settings here), then I open project in tmpgenc, then I encode and then it is complete, but it sounds bad in high frequency tones, (example when a child screams).
Should I try to encode the video in tmpgenc and encode the audio in another program?

[kimpan]

any idees? someone who got good sounds vcds? plaese tell me how you do.

[xaanin]

Hmm, after using DVD2AVI, is the sound still good? If it is you could try opening the AVI in V-dub, set Audio to full processing mode, Video to direct stream copy, file\save wav. Encode using toolame, command line: "toolame -b 224 -e whatever.wav"

Encode the video using TMPGenc, just do a "video only" encoding (not "System (Video Only)". Now, multiplex the audio with either TMPGenc or BBMPEG. Hopefully that will help.

[kimpan]

hmm
I am quite a newbie, haven't used virtual dub. Can you explane step by step? I chode audio avi? but how do I load the avi? should I load a video?

[d4n13l]

You may not even need to use Virtualdub. Ive never needed it for a rip->VCD. Is the sound OK after using DVD2AVI?

[kimpan]

yeah, after dvd2avi it sounds perfect. it must be when I encode it with tmpgenc something goes wrong, so what to do?

[xaanin]

To use V-dub:

Load the .avi video
Under "Audio" Select full processing mode
Under "Video" select direct stream copy
Then File menu and select Save Wav. Wait afew minutes.

Open a command prompt, go to your toolame directory. There type the commandline "toolame -b 224 -e c:\nameoffile.wav"
Replace the "nameoffile.wav" to whatever your file is called. Wait afew mins. Before you proceed open your new whatever.mp2 and check to see if the audio is good, if it isn't then there is no point in continueing.

When that is finished, start TMPGenc, load your .avi file, select "Video Only" (default is "System (Audio + Video)", select any video filters you want to use, start encoding. This takes afew hours. When you are done go into File and then MPEG tools (in TMPGenc). Go to the multiplex tab. There set the "type" to MPEG-1 VCD, load your whatever.m1v that TMPGenc created from the .avi, then add the whatever.mp2 that toolame created. Last hit run and it will put them together. Wait afew minutes.

Hopefully now your new VCD should be good sound and video.

<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: xaanin on 2001-10-01 13:34:50 ]</font>

[kimpan]

ok
but where do I get the .avi from? after using dvd2avi? but the file is named .d2v....
I dont understand: Open a command prompt, go to your toolame directory. There type the commandline "toolame -b 224 -e c:\nameoffile.wav"

how do I do that?

[kimpan]

anybody? please help

[xaanin]

Sorry Kimpan, I've never used DVD2Avi so I thought it produced a .avi file. Try doing thesame with your .d2v file though, V-dub might be able to open it. Or you could load it in TMPGEnc and just encode "Audio" (No video).

To use toolame do this:

Start button, program, accessories. Open a command prompt (might be called Dos prompt in your version).

Now, to go back up one folder you use the command "cd..", to change drive just type the drive letter like this "D:" would take you to your D drive. Then to go to a folder type "cd toolame", when you are in that directory type "toolame -b 224 -e whatever.wav" and replace whatever.wav with whatever your sound file might be called. Hopefully this will help.

[kimpan]

umm
can't open d2v files.... think this is very strange.. shouldn't a program named dvd2avi be creating a avi file? very strange.. have no clue what to do then..

[d4n13l]

DVD2AVI can produce avi files(!). You have to change the output - .d2v are for TMPEG. I think that a .d2v is a way of saving space, it is something like an image map that TMPEG can use as an avi. You have to go to "save avi" instead of "save project" to get an .avi

What folder is toolame in?
something like "c:\program files\toolame"?
Tell me that and Ill tell you how to get there in DOS.
If it is in C:\program files\toolame\ then do this:
Open a DOS prompt.(Win 98SE- Start>Program Files>MS-DOS Prompt)
-Type this:
cd c:\progra~1\toolame
-Press enter.
-Now type:
toolame -b 224 -e c:\nameoffile.wav
-Press enter.(change "nameoffile" to your .wav filename)
Should now work.
BEFORE you do this, cut (or copy) and paste your .wav file to C:\

if you still cant get it to work tell me where the folder toolame is.

[kimpan]

ok, new problem...
when I load the first vob file and i save as .avi in dvd2avi, it says finnish right away and the avi file that has been created is 1kb big... what is wrong?

[kimpan]

the adress to toolame is:
C:\Documents and Settings\kim\dvdrip\rip rogram

When I am saving the avi with dvd2avi and trying to open it with v-dub, it says that the file is empty. Something is wring when trying to create avi..

[d4n13l]

Wait a minute. You can get DVD2AVI to produce a .d2v file right? And you also get a .wav file.
Well copy the .wav file to c:\
Then open a DOS prompt:
cd [Type in the address to toolame here]
-Press enter.
-Now type:
toolame -b 224 -e c:\nameoffile.wav
-Press enter.(change "nameoffile" to your .wav filename)
Should now work.
Hopefully.
You will (hopefully) have a new mpeg audio file in C:\ and a .d2v project file. Encode the .d2v to an mpeg video in TMPEG. Do not encode any audio for it. After the .d2v has been encoded, multiplex the .mpg audio file in C:\ that toolame produced and the new mpg video that TMPEG produced.

[kimpan]

ok, got it working
problem is that the audio is in 1 big file and the video is encoded in 2. what should I do?

[kimpan]

nevermind, I am encoding the video into 1 big file now. MPEG-1 352x288 25fps VBR 1550kbps
how do I do then? when I have one big video and one audiofile. I mix them together. But how do I do that? and how do I after mixing them, cut them into two parts?

[kimpan]

anyone?

[d4n13l]

Cool it dude, have a bit of patience...

OK, in TMPEG go to File>MPEG Tools
In the "Simple Multiplex" tab, set the type to 'MPEG-1 Video-CD'. Now set the 'Video input' to your video file and the 'Audio input' to your audio file. Set the output to whatever you want the VCD to be called.
To cut it in 2 parts, use the "Merge & Cut" tool in the "MPEG Tools", its pretty easy to figure out. Just set the 'Type' to 'MPEG-1 Video-CD' again.

[kimpan]

thank you alot. I probably write down another problem soon

[d4n13l]

Thank God that you eventually did it! I was beginning to wonder how long it would go on for, hehe