mac and pc

[funkguy4]

Mac is based on BSD. How old............LINUX ALL THE WAY YEAH!!!

Pathetic Truth:
Windows 2000 Server is outperformed by a Linux Server running Samba!!!

[tgpo]

Mothers Against Circumcision

[tgpo]

Mac is based on BSD. How old

And Windows is based on crap, so what's your point.

[stiltman]

Mothers Against Circumcision

LOL

Wait! that's just plain sick!

[stiltman]

Mac is based on BSD. How old

And Windows is based on crap, so what's your point.

Our new crap is better than your old crap

[funkguy4]

Right now with the price/performance ratio here's the best:

AMD based x86 machine running Linux. OS wise, MacOS and Windows both suck, with MacOS coming out slightly ahead.

[tgpo]

OS wise, MacOS and Windows both suck, with MacOS coming out slightly ahead.

And Linux coming slightly below Mac OS X.

[stiltman]

OS wise, MacOS and Windows both suck, with MacOS coming out slightly ahead.

And Linux coming slightly below Mac OS X.

Hmm.... no smiley face this time.....

[funkguy4]

OS wise, MacOS and Windows both suck, with MacOS coming out slightly ahead.

And Linux coming slightly below Mac OS X.

HELL NO!
Linux kick MacOs ass any day.

[Tommyknocker]

I picked "Other". I like Tgpo's Amiga 500.

[funkguy4]

I picked "Other". I like Tgpo's Amiga 500.

Amiga . I loved their idea of spearate processor for everything (that was Amiga, right? I'm too damn young to know for sure).

[BJ_M]

OS wise, MacOS and Windows both suck, with MacOS coming out slightly ahead.

And Linux coming slightly below Mac OS X.

HELL NO!
Linux kick MacOs ass any day.

just curious on what criteria this is judged since both linux and os-x are both unix variations , with os-x being really user friendly and (some) vesions of linux being more configurable (then again not everyone is willing to recompile thier kernel) .. be hard to compare real world performance diff. for obvious reasons .. I'm not picking a side - just pointing out that without backup data , these "who is best" polls are rather meaningless.

least we all forget - there are a lot of other unix variations around also ..

[funkguy4]

Yep.

[EddyH]

Hmmm.. amiga... a separate processor for everything...

(looks at PC - mainboard, with non-hardwired CPU and memory, interchangable high-level BIOS & bridges, video card, sound card, network card... )

the ST still whupped it, custom chips or nay (hey, it still had the shifter, MMU, and the good ol' Yammy 2912)

[g_shocker182]

PCs - way better for compliability.

[funkguy4]

Hmmm.. amiga... a separate processor for everything...

(looks at PC - mainboard, with non-hardwired CPU and memory, interchangable high-level BIOS & bridges, video card, sound card, network card... )

the ST still whupped it, custom chips or nay (hey, it still had the shifter, MMU, and the good ol' Yammy 2912)

Your comp is old........ but whatever works!

[funkguy4]

PCs - way better for compliability.

Ignorant.......

[indolikaa]

AIX.

[funkguy4]

AIX.

HP BOY!

UNIX, Linux, or nothing. Too bad I'm stuck with WinXP until I can get the cash for WineX and it gets better.........

[indolikaa]

http://www-1.ibm.com/servers/eserver/pseries/hardware/workstations/intellistation_265.html

[BJ_M]

Base Model Features and Specifications

IBM IntelliStation Z Pro
Configured Price:
$15,004.10 USD

Form factor Mini Tower
Processor type Xeon
Processor speed 3066 MHz
Processor cache 512 KB
Hard drive type SCSI
Memory 1024 MB
Maximum memory 8192 MB
Operating system Microsoft Windows XP Professional
Optical drive 48X/24X/48 CD-RW


Accessories and Options Selected Part No Unit Price* Quantity Price*
IBM Multi-Burner Drive 22P6970 $299.00 USD 1 $299.00 USD
3.06 GHz/533 MHz-512 KB Cache Xeon Second Processor for 6221 24P8123 $1,299.00 USD 1 $1,299.00 USD
IBM Preferred Pro Full-size Keyboard PS/2 (Stealth Black) 31P7415 $29.00 USD 1 $29.00 USD
IBM 73.4 GB 15K rpm Ultra320 SCSI HDD 32P0785 $1,099.00 USD 2 $2,198.00 USD
2 GB PC2100 CL2.5 ECC DDR SDRAM DIMM 33L5040 $2,899.00 USD 2 $5,798.00 USD
20.1 inch IBM ThinkVision L200p Monitor w/ select system purchase only W9CT200 $999.00 USD 1 $999.00 USD

[tgpo]

Dude, we've got that computer here where I work. I didn't know it cost that much. Right now it just takes up space.

[BJ_M]

send it to me or why dont you buy it and replace that dino of a mac of yours for something that accually is fast and even more stable ? (if you mean the IBM) .. the price on the IBM (same as i have but slighly different case) is so high becuase i checked off every option that was listed ... they start around 2500$ for a base model ...

if you mean the SGI in the picture above ... even used its worth mucho $$ , new they are we say -- a bit pricey ...

[tgpo]

Yeah, we've got the one from the picture. It probably isn't configured with all the extras and everything. It's used for printing/color management/ flight checking, crap like that.

[tgpo]

replace that dino of a mac of yours for something that accually is fast and even more stable ?

I would rather not have a computer than to have a PC :P

MY Mac isn't a dino. It's a G4 Quicksilver. No problems with it yet. Stable?? I've never had it crash on me. But the PC we use to have crashed 4 times, and we gave it away to another department.

[BJ_M]

i measure up time on our render boxs (some render boxs use linux and some win2k) and our workstations in months , NEVER any problems, but our G4's always got problems ... latest OSx seems better but many of our people want to or have to stay with os9 for now ..

the build quailty on the macs is totally first rate -- lot of pcs dont have that build quality , but the ones that do are totaly rock solid stable ..

[tgpo]

i measure up time on our render boxs (some render boxs use linux and some win2k) and our workstations in months , NEVER any problems, but our G4's always got problems ... latest OSx seems better but many of our people want to or have to stay with os9 for now ..

the build quailty on the macs is totally first rate -- lot of pcs dont have that build quality , but the ones that do are totaly rock solid stable ..

Ya see BJ_M, that's one of the reasons I like you so much. You don't go straight for the flame war, you seem to always state the good and bad for all systems. Very classy.

With the OS X Quark on the way, We're going to all OS X!!! YES!! Plus we're getting a few G5s, whihc I think I may be getting one. I'll gladly ditch my "dino" G4 for the G5.

[rallynavvie]

Ugh, you're excited about a new version of Quark? There's this app called InDesign you should probably look into instead. That's already out for OSX. Unless you're still using Freehand I would move to the Adobe apps. I don't know how I'd live without its easier integration with Photoshop and Illusrator. But then again I'm an Adobe whore: latest versions of Photoshop, Illustrator, Acrobat, InDesign, Streamline, AfterEffects, Premiere, and PageMaker. PageMaker sucks though. I do have Publisher and Quark on my PC and Mac but I hardly use those two anymore. I really like that Apple put PDF into OSX, but it just goes to show that Adobe pretty much owns the design biz.

and yes, they're all legit serials

[tgpo]

Ugh, you're excited about a new version of Quark? There's this app called InDesign you should probably look into instead. That's already out for OSX. Unless you're still using Freehand I would move to the Adobe apps. I don't know how I'd live without its easier integration with Photoshop and Illusrator. But then again I'm an Adobe whore: latest versions of Photoshop, Illustrator, Acrobat, InDesign, Streamline, AfterEffects, Premiere, and PageMaker. PageMaker sucks though. I do have Publisher and Quark on my PC and Mac but I hardly use those two anymore. I really like that Apple put PDF into OSX, but it just goes to show that Adobe pretty much owns the design biz.

and yes, they're all legit serials

Actually I've been tries to get the elders here to use Indesign, but they are resisting. Maybe they should look at that early retirement plan. They swear by Quark, and that's what they want.

[rallynavvie]

Actually I've been tries to get the elders here to use Indesign, but they are resisting. Maybe they should look at that early retirement plan. They swear by Quark, and that's what they want.

Ah, old farts in your design department? Yeah, I had to fight with them here too, but then since Quark is "old school" and our company wants to be "cutting edge" we ditched Quark in favor of more Adobe apps. We still have it on our systems, but we never use it for in-house work, only for opening clients' files. You may get G5s before I do though, we're supposed to be getting them on a beta program sometime this year. We have G3 Yosemites here still