i was warned with the new warning system

[jeex]

in reference to this thread;

https://www.videohelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=170714


tgpo warned me and locked my thread! i dont think i violated forum rules of. "no warez. no politics. no religion" as stated by tgpo.

i could see what "chriscjgs" said being constrewed as politics.. but nothing i did..

It is all propaganda and they are all the same. Who cares what George Bush is doing illegally with the flag? What about flag burners?

There was a debate on flag burning as a crime here in Australia. Some folks here suggest jailing them. I say NO!

i'd like to hear your opinion about the matter.. i have included a poll.


--- i sent him this pm---
i was sure you would warn me & lock my thread.

how exactly is george w. bush signing a flag and a pole asking if you like him or not considered politics?

discussing a crime (i'm not sure if signing a flag is actually a crime) is not against forum rules..

asking if you like a certain person is not against forum rules.. just because he happens to be a politician shouldnt count against me, we arent talking about political issues & topics..

i demand my warning be removed.. i will take this all the way to the supreme court of baldrick!
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[tgpo]

Just to keep it fair I won't vote in the poll.

[jeex]

Just to keep it fair I won't vote in the poll.

same here

(p.s. - vote "no" or "tgpo"!.. what a slogan. it even rhymes! thats means you gotta do it)

[ChrisX]

The rules is the rules here at https://www.videohelp.com/ and I know the subject is all about the flag, the illegal use of it.

George W Bush is politics whether you agree with me or not regardless on issue. George Bush might not know the law on the flag anyway and why this an issue here.

If someone want to discuss politics: visit another website. There is another forum where politics can be discussed. This website is in Australia.

Check out: http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/. You have to be a member and to make 50 posts to access these special forums: The World in Turmoil.

The DVDRHelp.com rules and the warning system should stay.

[vitualis]

I have moved this thread to the feedback forum.

@ jeex:

The rules of the board is that there is to be no discussion on politics. YOU and many others may not think that this is fair, but this rule was put in for a good reason (basically, there were some pretty terrible flamewars and a lot of bad blood).

I don't think you should necessarily put shit on tgpo for giving you a warning. You did break a rule.

If you don't think that the rule (no politics, no religion) is "fair", then feel free to discuss.

Best regards.

[jeex]

I have moved this thread to the feedback forum.

@ jeex:

The rules of the board is that there is to be no discussion on politics. YOU and many others may not think that this is fair, but this rule was put in for a good reason (basically, there were some pretty terrible flamewars and a lot of bad blood).

I don't think you should necessarily put shit on tgpo for giving you a warning. You did break a rule.

If you don't think that the rule (no politics, no religion) is "fair", then feel free to discuss.

Best regards.

i'm not debating that "no politics" shouldnt be a rule. i am debating that i was found guilty of breaking a rule.

[g_shocker182]

Well, it is politics but its also in the off-topic section. Still, Baldrick wrote NO POLITICS, so I guess it is off-limits.

[Solarjetman]

I can see where you are coming from, but I looked up the definition and..

Definition number two at www.dictionary.com:
The activities or affairs engaged in by a government, politician, or political party

As you are discussing the action of a politician (GWB signing the flag), I think it does violate the rules. Plus, that is a hair-pin trigger away from turning into a debate on flag burning and defacement. And that is definatly politics.

[Will Hay]

As I've been asked for my opinion:
Personally I think issuing a yellow was harsh.
Had you not started with what could be construed as an inflammatory thread title it would have been even harsher.
I've seen a tonne of topic's closed for being about politic's, mostly by Baldrick and for what I can tell no cards were issued.
Oh, and your terminolgy in the tgpo option in this poll is unneccessary and clearly a petty attempt at offence, do you want a second yellow?
When did you ask tgpo to consider removing it?
A week ago, yesterday?
If it was within the last 72 hours it would have been wise to wait for a response, for 'your appeal to be heard' before you created this silly poll.
If tgpo refused I feel you would have had grounds to make your feelings known, as I say, I think the decision was a little harsh but crying to your mom straight away (by way of this thread) won't help your case.
Will

Edit:
BTW, I couldn't vote.
You haven't enough options and need at least one that says:
I should have my card removed but the thread should stay locked.
Then I might consider it.
As I say I agreed with you 100% before I saw the format of this thread but my support for you is dwindling by the minute.
(Hey, you wanted feedback man!).

[Will Hay]

Plus, I think you just might have my all time favourite signature

[tgpo]

jeex man, it's looking like most people agree that it was politics.

[presto]

I don't know how in the world you thing discussing wether or not you like George Bush isn't politics but it certainly isn't dvdr related.

Drop it.

[Will Hay]

jeex man, it's looking like most people agree that it was politics.

Of course it was politics, but if it was me I'd like to know why you gave me a yellow when there are tonnes of politic threads closed without recourse.
Will

[tgpo]

Of course it was politics, but if it was me I'd like to know why you gave me a yellow when there are tonnes of politic threads closed without recourse.

Besically it was because Jeex knew the rules. He's been here for a while and knows what is acceptable to post and what isn't. In his pm he even said he knew I would warn him and lock the thread, which told me that he knew what he was doing when he posted.

[Will Hay]

Of course it was politics, but if it was me I'd like to know why you gave me a yellow when there are tonnes of politic threads closed without recourse.

Besically it was because Jeex knew the rules. He's been here for a while and knows what is acceptable to post and what isn't. In his pm he even said he knew I would warn him and lock the thread, which told me that he knew what he was doing when he posted.

Fair enough, but it doesn't answer my question
I see tonnes of political posts and no-one gets yellow carded, yet just because some goof expects a yellow doesn't mean you have to give it to him.
An explanation on your position regards parity please
Will

[Will Hay]

Besically it was because Jeex knew the rules

So, are you saying if it had been someone with five posts under their belt you wouldn't have given a yellow?
If so, that's not what I would expect from someone who, in the past, has demonstrated what a standup guy he is
Will

[tgpo]

Actually up until just a few days ago we were still issuing written warnings. We then discussed the new system in the moderator forum and decided that we would no longer give verbal warnings, becasue with the new system there is no need. So from now on we'll be giveing out only card warnings. That would explain why there are others who didn't get carded for previous rule breaking posts. Jeex just happen to be one of the first after this decision. Nothing against him, it was just one of the first after the decision was made.

[pacmania_2001]

It's part of a 'no tolerance' policy that the moderators (well most) have agreed to. To make the new warning system effective (and also fair) each infringement of the rules now will result in a yellow card instead of the patchy 'some people warned, some not' that was happening on here.

Personally, it's a warning, if Jeex hadn't have brought it up I don't think that many people would know he had of been warned seeing that only mods/admin and the user who recieved the warning can see the yellow card.

EDIT: Well, tgpo beat me too it

[Will Hay]

Actually up until just a few days ago we were still issuing written warnings. We then discussed the new system in the moderator forum and decided that we would no longer give verbal warnings, becasue with the new system there is no need. So from now on we'll be giveing out only card warnings. That would explain why there are others who didn't get carded for previous rule breaking posts. Jeex just happen to be one of the first after this decision. Nothing against him, it was just one of the first after the decision was made.

There you are jeex, accept it man.
Will

[jeex]

i've lost interest in fighting this.. but i'll accept the voting results..

but as the last (and shortest) message said, i'll accept it. but you better watchout, you better be scared, we're coming from both sides of the country, you better beware.

[jeex]

p.s. - thanks to the 4 people who voted they dont like me. i love you all the most. you are what keeps me going.

[tgpo]

Jeex voted for #2

[Tommyknocker]

Got a feeling someone stuffed the ballot boxes. Where is the choice for "get over it"?

[manosteele12]

When it says "pro badass" under your name it's probubly safe to say your an a$$ Hole.

[thayne]

I think you should be banned for starting this lame thread....

[galactica]

maybe Im missing something here..

I count 6 total warning on your account. Its no wonder you started a post like this.

I think ill give you another one just to make the stack of yellow warnings look even

(JK)

[Tommyknocker]

I think ill give you another one just to make the stack of yellow warnings look even

Woman: What's that?

Man: Jeex's penis. Galactica just knocked it in the dirt.

[stiltman]

Very suprised this thread has not been locked yet

[ChrisX]

Very suprised this thread has not been locked yet

Why should this thread be locked. Awareness of the new warning system is the key. Just let everyone know about it.

Anyway, a poll is a good thing and this gives Baldrick a message of our approval of the new warning system.

[stiltman]

IMO, it's degraded from that to insults....