Jitter--> Field Problem in AVI--> How Fix?

[ewingr]

I have created a DVD from an AVI that was generated from Adobe Premier 6.5. It has jitter problems.

From info on this great link to determine field type --> http://hilljack.vampirez.com/fieldorder.htm, I find that my field type for the AVIs needs to be Top Field First, which is backwards than what DVD needs. So, I am thinking this is my problem. In fact, I ran one of the AVIs through TMPGENC and created an MPEG with A Field first, generated a DVD with DVDWS, and it plays fine. So this verifies this as the problem, I believe.

I am creating the DVD from DVDWS by importing the AVI files into DVDWS and generating the DVD directory and burning the DVD. I would have hoped that the DVDWS would output the correct field type automatically. I cannot find a way to change it in the program.

I had tried to create MPEGs from Adobe first and use them in DVDWS, , but that blows up DVDWS. If interested, see this thread: https://www.videohelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=170398&highlight=.

I might point out that I am suspicious that my current problem is because of this: As that I couldn't work with the MPEGS from Adobe in DVDWS, I loaded them back into Adobe and exported them to the AVIs that I am now finding that has the wrong field order. I am presuming that it got swapped some how there. (I know, I may be affecting quality by AVI->MPG->back to AVI...but I don't want to recapture and rebuilid everything. I deleted the orig. AVIS for disk space)

At any rate, how can I get these AVIs field orders set correctly, so that my DVDWS can use them and give me DVDs that don't jitter? I have found two programs that supposedly do this on MPEG files, but not AVI files. I can run them through TMPGENC and change the order, as noted earlier, but then I end up with MPEG files, and DVDWS blows up, if I use any features, such as chapters, and it is VERy VERY slow to work with when used with MPEGs as source!

[pixel]

I used to have this problem but now use TMPGEnc to reencode, although, as you said, it makes DVDWS slower. However I believe the newest version of DVDWS has this problem fixed or so this is what it says here:
http://lordsmurf.hypermart.net/conversion/dvdguide.htm

[ewingr]

I have the latest version of DVDWS, and it is not fixed. It flat out cannot work with MPEGS, as far as I'm concerned. In fact, the MPEGS that come with DVDWS don't even work with it.

My immediate problem is how to get these AVIs into a B field format, w/o going back to MPEG.

[ewingr]

I have the problem fixed. It was in fact teh field order. There was probably a better way to fix, but this is what I did: I had clicked "Add to Library" in teh DVDWS program when I created the DVD directory. So, I had the MPEGS that DVDWS created. I loaded them in Premier, and saved them out as AVIs again, and reburned the files. It reversed the order, and they play fine now.

[pixel]

That's a pretty smart way to correct the field order, I had never even thought of it, I guess it was quite time consuming but I guess your happy with it. Personally, I would just do the encoding once using TMPEnc and correcting the field order that way.

[ewingr]

It wasn't as time consuming as I had thought. Adobe writes AVI files pretty fast. The re-encode back to DVD via DVDWS took a while, but I just let it run overnight.

I agree with doing the encoding once...except the reason I had this problem (referenced in the link to another thread I included in the original message) left me with AVIs with wrong field order...and DVDWS absolutely chokes working on MPEGS. To recap, the reason I had the AVIs with wrong field order was because of originally encoding to MPEGs, finding them problematic in DVDWS, and encoded back to AVIs with Adobe, which left me with wrong field order.

Follow that ? ...

At any rate, those are fixed. Now I need to figure out how to work with future videos. I like DVDWS, but it hates mpegs; someone suggested DVD-Lab, it looks pretty powerful, but right out of the box with only 1 hour work, it has already bombed out, (another thread I opened on that--> .https://www.videohelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=170748&highlight=) and doesn't look like it offers near the font design capability as DVDWS (maybe I just haven'l looked hard enough at it yet.)

I'm rambling on....sorry