How to fit a 90 min movie to 1 VCD disc

[pothole46]

I am having problems fitting a 90 minutes movie onto a 700mb disc.
The most I have got is 80mins but the quality is bad.
I know there are numerous guides on here but which is the right one to use to get a decent pic on a 700mb disc.

pothole

[Dennis1968]

I use VBR for the video and CBR (128 kps) for the audio. 96 minutes high quality video from.

[pothole46]

Thats just what I am looking for but what program are you using to get the 96 minutes

pothole

[Baldrick]

https://www.videohelp.com/forum/userguides/84759.php

You can also test some kvcd templates for tmpgenc, www.kvcd.net

[pothole46]

Cheers I am on the KVCD site now and it claims 120 mins to one cd amazing if it works, reading the guide you linked to as well.

pothole

[jester1x]

In my mild experimentations with VCDs (really XVCDs), ninety minutes is about the max you can fit onto a 700mb (80 minute) CDR and still get decent quality. When you arrive at the final screen (right before encoding), cancel the wizard. Then, select "load" on the actual encoding screen, then load the "unlock" template which I believe is in the "extras" folder. Loading this template will allow you to adjust all of the settings. You can then play around with the bitrates to be able to fit ninety minutes onto a 700mb CDR. Also, remember to save your new template with a specific name, so that you won't overwrite the standard templates. It (your saved template) should show up in the "other" section the next time you use the wizard.

A technique I use which others may agree or disagree with is to use VBR, but set the minimum, average and maximum bitrates to the same values. So, if your max bitrate is say "1075kbps", then set the average and minimum to the same values. You can do a little experimenting yourself and use the same bitrate for CBR. But, through my own experimentation, the picture does look better using VBR even if all of the values are set to the same bitrate. If you do use different bitrates for VBR, don't set your minimum bitrate too low because the picture does suffer. Again, I noticed how the picture suffered to some degree in various scenes in movies through my own experimentation.

You more than likely won't be able to exceed 1100kbps for video even if you set the audio bitrate to 64kbps (regarding ninety minutes movies). If you do, the file will most likely exceed the capacity of an 80 minute CDR. If you choose to use my suggestions, your file should be around 770mb give or take. If you go a little higher mb wise, then you may not be able to author the file properly as a VCD because of the slight overhead authoring adds.

Anyways...do some experimenting yourself to find what method(s) will work for you. That's where I get most of my enjoyment!

[pothole46]

Do I use TMPEGnc with all these suggestion, sorry for sounding like a real newbie.

I have also captured some footage on my TV card and saved it as an MPEG2 file can I load this into TMPEGnc and then use the Kvcd templates to make a vcd

pothole

[poopyhead]

@pothole46,

standard, compliant VCD will allow you to fit max 80 min of video (1150 kbit/s CBR MPEG-1) and audio (224 kbit/s MPEG-1 Layer II).

the quality is already quite bad with this setup....try not to lower your bitrate below that for standard VCDs. if you want to fit more than 80 min per CD-R, then you will have to lower your bitrate even lower...the quality is gonna be worse and worse.

try spliting the video between multiple discs and actually increasing the bitrate above that for standard VCD to fill up the CD-Rs. you will like the quality better. you will be making a non-standard, compliant xVCD in this case.

you may even try SVCD, but good quality will require max of 45-50 min of video per CD-R.

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if you deviate from standard VCD specs, you will be making an xVCD. this may or may not be compatible with your DVD player. you need to look here first to make sure your dvd player can handle xVCDs.

https://www.videohelp.com/dvdplayers