DVDBackup 1.3 Region free ? Not Region free

[galactica]

Hey all

Ok, so here's the thing.

DVDBackup 1.3 Set it to region free, do a rip, burn a copy it works in my player..... GREAT.

Now, send this same disk to your brother who's overseas (In a different region code for DVD's) and it doesnt play!!!!!!!!

In fact, it gives " this disc is not formatted to play this region"
what the heck is going on????

Any thoughts.

[Macnewbie]

Bug in DVDBackup?
Your friends DVD player only plays PAL?

[Macnewbie]

here is the email contact for the author of DVDBackup:

lupin@wormintheapple.gr

[brett]

i was stumped when i got that error message from my circa-1999 sony set top player re: my dvd-backup de-regioned disc. until i read the player's specs. only supported ntsc formats. which sucks. and is technically non-spec, as pal formats are part of the same dvd spec, iirc. anyways, i had to do a dv-as-interim-stage reencoding to output an ntsc version. worked great. looked pretty good, too.

[galactica]

!!!YIKES!!!


reply from dvdbackup people:

"Sorry, I don't support DVDBackup for use with DVD2One. Those folks
charge for software that requires DVDBackup yet they don't share any of
their profits. Since you paid for DVD2One, talk to them for support."

looks like im up the creek for solving this one

[MichaelLAX]

looks like im up the creek for solving this one

Interesting response on their part, and at first blush I don't blame them.

Right about the time that Disco+ v1.1 came out (and had to be immediately replaced by v1.1b), I purchased DVD2ONEX and discovered that I needed a "rip" utility first. I downloaded DVD Backup, and I don't think I have even attempted to use Disco+ since!

It seems that they are punishing the wrong people... An unintended consequence of putting a program into the public domain, is that someone else will attempt to capitilize on it (Linux...). It does not surprise me that DVD2ONEX will not share its income with them, as they probably did not build that cost into their business model. But such a cost would be passed on to the user/purchaser where it belongs anyway... Why not cut out the middleman?

Why not propose to the DVDBackup people that they setup a mechanism for users to make donations, such as PayPal. I know that I would certainly express my gratitude with a donation, if I could make one. Maybe then they would provide tech support to "donators."

Similar to the recent appeal that www.macintouch.com made to its reader community to help keep it alive; readers are making voluntary donations.

PS: if you get a chance, Galactica, please reply to my posts to you regarding "MPEG-2 to MPEG-1" at:

https://www.videohelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=165943

Thanks, Michael

[galactica]

I noticed the following when opening the dvd in IFOEDIT
1. it is region free!!
2 if you tell ifo edit to make it region free again, it does something where its removing RCE Protection - something DVDBackup doesnt remove..

i emailed the new .ifo/.bup files to my brother, with them it works fine now. Strange huh.

[AntnyMD]

reply from dvdbackup people:

"Sorry, I don't support DVDBackup for use with DVD2One. Those folks
charge for software that requires DVDBackup yet they don't share any of
their profits. Since you paid for DVD2One, talk to them for support."

It's a shame the DVDBackup guy views DVD2One in this way. DVD2One doesn't require DVDBackup -- it simply requires decrypted material, and suggests DVDBackup as an option. We all know there are other softwares available to decrypt DVDs, including 0Sex and Extractor.

Furthermore, DVDBackup is probably the best decryptor on the Mac platform, and I agree, they should set up a mechanism for donations. They could even do a free version and a paid version, where the paid version provides removal of the Region Code Enhancement many commercial DVD's are encoded with.

[pepe]

Agree!

I "donate" to the disco+ team to help support the Mac platform,but since i bought DTOX I no longer try to use disco+ (specially since I need PAL support).

I would be more than willing to help the DVDBackup team if they put some sort of donation option.

Pepe

[thayne]

The problem isn't the region, but the video format. US uses NTSC and Europe uses PAL. Have your brother get multi-format DVD player, or an NTSC player and TV

[galactica]

The problem isn't the region, but the video format. US uses NTSC and Europe uses PAL. Have your brother get multi-format DVD player, or an NTSC player and TV

Interesting, his player plays both NTSC and PAL. Could it be the tv?!?

[tgpo]

Could it be the tv?!?

It could be. Some TVs will not play the other format.

[galactica]

well the funny thing is when i run IFO EDIT in VPC and tell it to "re-regionfree it" it works. Its removing RCE protection when it does that, so that has got to have something to do with it.

i guess dvdbackup doesnt remove RCE (region code enhancement??)

[tgpo]

Region Code Enhancment:
Abbreviated RCE, it is a digital enhancement added to some studios DVDs to stop region 1 (R1) DVDs from playing on Region-free DVD players.

If DVDBackup leaves this on the backuped DVD, it could certainly cause problems.

[galactica]

Thats exactly what it is!!!!!!!!!!!

His player is region free!!!!!!!!!!!!! So i made the disk region free, yet it keeps the RCE so thats got to be it!

IFO EDIT removed the RCE, so its just one extra step.

This is interesting news!
perhaps someone should msg dvd backup people and suggest putting this in the next update. I would, but apparently ive already messaged them and they didnt like what I had to say it would seem