can you shed some light on this? (DVDSHrink & DVD Decryp

[unstuck2]

Hi! this should be an easy one for your guys
I attempted to back up a very short disk lastnight using dvdshrink alone. It went well, except I decided to open the individual VOB files in WinDVD just to make sure and all looked good except VTS-01-4.VOB (out of 5 VOBs) had background sound only and none of the dialouge sounds.
Have you seen this before?
Thinking this must have been caused by the copy protection I started up DVD Decrypter and using default settings copied the main feature to the HD.
The resulting files were not usable in DVD format:
Here's the files DVD DEcrypter made:
VTS_01_streamInformation.txt
VTS_01_0.IFO
VTS_01_1.VOB
VTS_01_2.VOB
VTS_01_3.VOB
VTS_01_4.VOB
VTS_01_5.VOB

At least VTS_01_4.VOB had dialouge sounds this time.

What I ended up doing was use the VOB files from Decrypter and the IFO and BUP files from the DVDShrink output and the final disk played fine.
But what did I do wrong in the first place?
Have you ever had dialouge sounds missing from DVDShrink for only a part of the movie?
Why did DVD Decrypter not prepare all the files I needed for the burn to disk?
thanks

[GKar]

I use CloneDVD & DVDDecrypter in File Mode (Select all files) and the rest is default to back up encrypted dual layer DVD's to one DVD with no problems. (Usually over 7GB to one DVD with very little loss of quality)... Maybe you needed to "Select All Files" in and while using file mode?

[poopyhead]

playing vob files directly with powerDVD/winDVD is NOT indicative of the final DVD. sometimes, the aspect ratio will be off. sometimes, the wrong audio track will be played...hence, you might hear foreign language, director's commentary, etc....even though the default english audio track is still present.

[unstuck2]

playing vob files directly with powerDVD/winDVD is NOT indicative of the final DVD.

You mean the origianl dvdshrink output might have been fine?
How do you check the output before burning it to dvdR (my stand alone does not play dvdRW disks)

[mkelley]

Sometimes you can't -- but with DVDR running at less than $2 it's not a disaster to test that way (I remember when a *CDR* was over $10 a smash -- we've come a long way).

[unstuck2]

but with DVDR running at less than $2 it's not a disaster to test that way

I'm very new to this, so when I end up with 30% waste with the disks it has a psychological effect anyway
here's hoping DVD+Rs can get to cost the same as CDR's (7c each! wow)

[mkelley]

At the very least make sure you have at least verison 4.0 of PowerDVD -- I think the latest is 5.0 and that would probably be even better.

[zappafan]

If you don't feel confident then why not try recording on DVDRW. If it doesn't work then you can try again without wasting a disk. Good way to go through the trial and error process.

[Vejita-sama]

Use a software DVD player to play the VIDEO_TS folder on your HD before you burn. There are several programs that can do this (winDVD, IFOEdit, etc).

[Gurm]

Guys, what he's saying is that he DID try software players, and they play it wrong... or badly at least.

I think he ought to update those players, see what happens. And... err... hmm.

- Gurm

[poopyhead]

You mean the origianl dvdshrink output might have been fine? How do you check the output before burning it to dvdR (my stand alone does not play dvdRW disks)

most likely..yes, they're fine.

if you wanna see this for yourself, play the VOB files you just ripped (before processing w/ DVDshrink) and you will see this happening. the vob files may be wrong aspect ratio, audio track, etc... yet, these files were just ripped from the commercial DVD...only change is encryption is gone.

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btw, doesn't occur with all DVDs...just some.

[vance43211]

Use a software DVD player to play the VIDEO_TS folder on your HD before you burn. There are several programs that can do this (winDVD, IFOEdit, etc).

or power dvd



he hit on the nose


if you do it this way (head to the main ifo instead of just reading vobs)
it will read the disc exactly how you burn it

whenever i preview my discs i alway go this route and i'm alway doing wierd things like adding or subtracting extra material, and i want to make sure everything plays right before i burn

[FoolishBrett]

PowerDVD regularly either does not play some of the resulting files or has the audio track hidden or unplayable.

I really really dislike PowerDVD for that reason.

I'm with the origionator of this tread, I like to check every time to make sure it works (habit from my dvd2avi, tmpgenc, maestro etc days.)

As a commment most people have windvd. Try that to make yourself feel better.

I have not have one DVDshink audio problem in over 100 burns. Although it is conceivable that you deselected ALL audio files.

[vance43211]

if u click "open dvd file on hard drive" and head to the main VIDEO_TS ifo of your movie that doesn't happen and you can head to any chapter, fast foward or rewind with the same audio

now if you just click on your vobs that you might get wrong audio or no audio that just happens sometime

i don't know why though

[andkiich]

Gurm,

Reading the VOB files directly can be problematic, which is why it was suggested that he use a player to read the video_ts folder and not individual VOBs.

That way, it will be more like the "finished" product and not just having the software player playing another file.

I've seen some software players playing MPG and VOB files alone show the interlace lines, but when the finished DVD or video_ts folder was used, the software was smart enough to treat the file like a regular commercial DVD and no interlace lines were present.

[Gurm]

Yes yes. There's a HUGE difference between a software player playing an MPG2 file, and a software player playing a "DVD on the hard disk".

- Gurm