Basically the thread is locked and after reading the replies I don't give a shit anymore cos reading it shows some of you dont care about rules. I also dont give a shit what he wrote to me cos I know he cant harm me and he did actually say ALL OF YOU in one of his posts anywat but even so would you want kids reading that sorta stuff anyway. It is also implied that I was questioning the Moderators actions but I was only asking him to read the threads and then maybe he would have seen my quite valid point
people also mention not to read future posts but how do you know what has been written and by who till you read it?, cos it dont say in the email notification or pre warn you when you first read a thread that this dickhead may have posted in it
there's more issues in some of the replies cos I cannot believe some of the views people have
https://www.videohelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=589964#589964
thats the thread in question and basically this ElQueso2/SyndicateFoo guy is the the same person
now he was banned for a reason yet returned THE VERY NEXY DAY so hasnt been banned in effect yet some people in the thread seem to think that's fine
now after reading the rules
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it states being banned immediately AND permanently. So where does it say temporarily?, cos reading that it says to me if you are banned it is permanent as the banned is followed by AND so banned & permanent are together and doesnt mean you can create a new username the next day and all is well!. It says to me you get banned then it's permanent!"
I know you could create a new username and I guess as long as they didnt let out who it was returning then fine cos people will never know but in this case he has been found out! and even worse he joined the next day, so thats a big slap in the forums face rulebook and also Baldrick
and seeing as this guys loving of the word DIE etc still remains along with his stupid pathetic wannabe macho signature I doubt very much he has changed but more like he is slowly gonna return to what he was before
I could rant on more but I'll leave it at that for now
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Yes, it is possible to reregister after you have been banned with a new username and email. I can ban IPs but many users have dynamic ips(usually modem,cable) and then it isn't usually possible.
But if anyone finds a user that have reregistred a short time after a ban then just post it in our feedback forum or pm us(admin or mod) and we can reban him/her.
If a user wants his/her banned removed it is just to email me or a moderator and we maybe can remove the ban. Reregistering after a ban is not tolerated.
SyndicateFoo bannned again.
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For reference. Dial-ups (virtually) always have a different IP everytime they dial. DSL/CABLE is usually fairly constant, but can be changed very easily (less than 30 seconds, no reboots required).
Now if IP's are logged, that well and good. The casual moron will get banned and go away. The persistant ones will re-register with a new IP and keep going. What stops these people is their Mouth!! If you suspect that someone is a re-register, ask Baldrick or one of the admins. What they will do is look at the IP's and see if they are related. That is, an ISp has blocks of IP's; The re-register will have an IP close to the offending one.To Be, Or, Not To Be, That, Is The Gazorgan Plan
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it states being banned immediately AND permanently. So where does it say temporarily?
In this case syndicate foo has been banned again. But just like I said in the last post....and Baldrick basically confirmed....all they have to do is re-register again with a new nic and a lower profile...maybe a sig that doesn't have the words "DIE" "ILLY" "9MILLY" in them...and you'll probably never know. Then again, maybe they'll slip up and write the word 'DIE' in another post....but talk about a waste of time HUNTING down those posts.
And if that isn't essentially worthless...how about if they have a "static" IP address....Baldrick admittedly said they pretty much can't be banned for all intents and purposes.....so if this guy has DSL/CABLE....they will be back.
But being that Baldrick just banned "SYNDICATE FOO" and NOT the IP address.....I suspect another nic will be created shortly...if not already.
Has justice really been served?
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Guys, come on!
I think there is no need to waste precious time verifying if a banned user create a new login. Mods are doing a fabulous job here.
It's like a red traffic light. Sometimes, we don't respect it. Sometimes we do that for sure, sometimes we don't pay attention enough.
Sometimes there is a policeman to punish us, sometimes not.
The most important thing here is: There are rules and they must be respected. If we will be punished everytime we're wrong, we don't know.
Once againg, congratulations to Moderators.
PS:I'm sorry by my English.
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Originally Posted by defense
I know he can create a new username (Der!) but as for HUNTING down these posts as you put it, if he hadn't used the same old DIE in his thread title I wouldn't have noticed it was him and hopefully I won't ever again even if he does come back again, which he obviously will. Those links were just to show how much of a dick he can be, and took me all of (let me think a sec!) a minute to find again using the very rarely used search feature, but I felt it necessary to just show something of this guys nature
and you were the one I couldn't really believe cos if you read it it says MAY but the word BANNED is associated with PERMANENTLY so if you are banned (as he was) to me it say's it's permanent. MAY has nothing to do with it now as the decision was made back then so MAY is now WAS in this case. I would assume this would be infinite or in some cases until they may even be allowed back just like the way most forums work but the way it is at the minute BANNED & PERMANENT are as one. Of course that is unless someone is an qualified English teacher and can explain it actually doesn't mean that but something else
maybe if it had read Doing so may lead to you being temporarily/permanently banned with immediate effect then I may just see your point but the way it stands I don't
I just can't understand why you are so upset about it and I feel a quote from one of your posts is quite appropiate!
if you have a problem with a poster..don't post in their threads or read their threads. Noone is putting a gun to anyone's head and saying you gotta read the names have been changed to protect the innocentthread or anyone elses for that matter
but why would Baldrick bother banning him again if it wasn't worth giving a toss about in the 1st place? and I had just wasted all of the 2 seconds it took him to decide on what action to take (I guess I can pull away my gun to Baldricks head now)
I can't really be ar$ed to argue with you defense but to me you are just being awkward, simple as!igh:
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Originally Posted by MackemXOriginally Posted by MackemX
I think you do give a shit to have gone to such lengths to have him re-banned.
Plus, if you didn't you wouldn't have created yet another thread whinging about the rules and how amazed you are everyone is opposed to your stance.
If you read some of this guys first posts you'll see me slap bang in the middle, issuing the immortal line (or words to the effect of)...
...if there is any justice in this world you will be banned from this site.
His posts were the worst I'd seen, he was clearly having mental issues and as he couldn't control himself was rightly banned.
What you should have done is simply PM a moderator a message or post a thread in the feedback section, not create a post with how unfair life is and how we all must be arseholes for ignoring the rules.
Basically man most of us don't give a shit, this guy appeared to be making an effort and had learnt his lesson.
Yes, re-registering within 24 hours is against Baldrick's site policy, but if you hadn't created this 'bull in a china shop' farce I don't doubt he'd have eventually been found out.
However, had he been given the chance he'd have probably toe-d the line and been such a model member it might have proved difficult for a moderator to ban him again.
Yes, as I've said, Baldrick choose to boot the poor bastard out again and that's fine, but there are way to bring this to the moderator's attention and yours was the shitty way.
What also makes me smile is the fact you choose to goad this guy in his thread, and show your superiority insofar as you'd identified him, you'd unmasked this develish wrong-doer.
Not healthy man.
Anyway, you've got what you wanted, congratulations.
It's only a forum afterall.
Will Haytgpo, my real dad, told me to make a maximum of 5,806 posts on vcdhelp.com in one lifetime. So I have.
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I would like to point out that the Forum rules / Acceptable Use Policy clearly states, "You agree not to post any abusive, obscene, vulgar, slanderous, hateful, threatening, sexually-orientated or any other material that may violate any applicable laws."
Originally Posted by MackemX
Threating and intimidating applies to both the real world as well as cyberspace. If you are truly that concerned about what ElQueso2 posted, your beef should be with your local law enforcement authority and/or the FBI/Interpol. Arguing the relevance is of whether such actions should merit membership disqualification seems rather trivial in comparison.
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Originally Posted by LanEvo7
) are you going on about?
Originally Posted by indolikaa, you gotta be kidding me, you got nothing better to do?. I sincerely apologise to anyone who has been offended by my use of the word $*%&
or any other word that may offend members. You are missing the issue also by the way as this thread was intended to express my disbelief at members views
@ Will
all I had done is pointed out this guy was banned for some crap he had posted and that he came back the next day (took me all of 2 mins to do) but the main point of the discussion turned and was not regarding Elqueso2 but some other members (not bugster) opinions of the banning procedure and what it actually means
forgive me for not doing it in the correct manner by using the feedback forum cos I didn't realise how many toes I would step on. I wonder if it would have been such an issue if I had posted this in the feedback forum?
but why did you personally even bother posting about what I shudda done, did you not read Baldrick's reply? and then my reply afterwards????
and where did I say all of you were arseholes?
as for bull in china shop, I knew it was him in my 1st reply in the original thread!
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@ all,
the only reason I have posted so much crap myself is to try and get it thru to certain members what I interpreted as the Rules but I see yet another few have jumped on the Elqueso2 supporters bandwagon, so welcome aboard
but my question remains and that is why the hell did Baldrick see it fit to ban him again???? cos I'm sure he knows what he meant when writing the Rules
why didn't he slap him on the wrists and say 'naughty boy, don't do it again' and not reban him like some of you would like to have done. It's probably cos the forums would lose all control and the mods would be warning/banning people left right and centre (more work) because certain people just wouldn't care what they wrote and all hell would break loose
so it's beyond me why some of you are so cut up about it and my posts????. Like defense said if it bothers you then don't post or don't even read it cos it wudda disappeared within 24 hours but I believe that some people just like to stick their nose in wherever they can just to spice things up a little but miss the whole point behind someones actions
basically the banning of Elqueso2 ain't the issue of this thread but more to do with members interpretations of the Rules and certain people's views on them
keep it real :joke:
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Originally Posted by MackemX
I understand that your intent was to create a thread to express your disbelief at members' views. I am obviously one of those members you are expressing your disbelief with. That's fine with me, you have your opinion and I have my opinion.
As for you comments regarding that I have nothing better to do? My first post took all of about 2 minutes. This post? OK, I splurged and committed about 5 minutes. How much time have you put into this thread? I wonder, which one of us really has nothing better to do?
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Originally Posted by indolikaa
thats why I said have you got nothing better to do as I don't see any other input into the two threads from you other than that feeble post previous to your last one
guess you better look through the rest of the forums using shit as your search word and correct all those guys too then if it bothers you enough to post about it
and finally how can I express my disbelief towards someone who aint even input anything into this discussion other than commenting on the word 'shit'??
Originally Posted by MackemX
gimme a break
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@mackemX....first, as far as arguing with me...let's not concern past posts of Instant Copy vs. CCE along with this one...because I know that is what you are doing. That is old news man, get over it. Your posts are generally helpful...however, you get into that closed minded mode every now and then, which is what you have done here.
You claim that these people who have responded to this thread against your actions are ElQueso "supporters" on the bandwagon...but you are once again, incorrect! Nobody is supporting ElQueso's actions, however, the guy did claim to be on medicine and was absolutely a civil poster in all of their SyndicateFoo posts. Nobody is saying he should NOT of been banned. What people are saying is that you have gone to the extreme to get him "re-banned" which shows that you are really being affected by a guy over a computer who you'll probably never see.
You are spending a ridiculous amount of time hunting down this guy although you claim otherwise. You say you just knew it was ElQueso back...yet..you also posted the date ElQueso was banned as well as the fact that you knew Syndicate Foo registered the next day..as well as other similarities. It shows that you are spending too much time worrying about something so minor. You are playing DetectiveX to try and hunt this guy down and make sure he never posts here under ANY new nic again. Let bygones be bygones.
Listen to yourself:
LOL, you vexed about this?, and yes Justice has been done cos now this guy will know to tread more carefully and be more like the users that Baldrick would like frequenting these boards cos I'm sure I would rather do without the crap this guy came up with previously (and probably would have in the future) if I was the Site owner
and you were the one I couldn't really believe cos if you read it it says MAY but the word BANNED is associated with PERMANENTLY so if you are banned (as he was) to me it say's it's permanent. MAY has nothing to do with it now as the decision was made back then so MAY is now WAS in this case. I would assume this would be infinite or in some cases until they may even be allowed back just like the way most forums work but the way it is at the minute BANNED & PERMANENT are as one
Not sure what you are confusing yourself Mackem. It's very clear that the forum policy states the word "MAY." May is the KEY WORD. The policy says "MAY BE IMMEDIATELY AND PERMANENTLY BANNED!" I'll break it down for you. Simply put, that means if a user breaks forum policy, that user MAY be "IMMEDIATELY" banned.... or the user "MAY" BE PERMANENTLY BANNED! That is exactly what the policy states and I made two sentences for you out of the one sentence in the forum policy. The policy also states "AND" the users ISP will be notified.....but of course, if you are so strong on your interpretation of the forum policy and want to continue to ignore the KEY WORD "MAY"...why haven't you harped on Baldrick for not contacting Syndicate Foo's ISP?
According to your interpretation the word AND was there and that means "together" and that means the ISP SHOULD OF DEFINITELY of been contacted. All your doing Mackem is giving your opinion of the forum policy WITHOUT THE WORD "MAY." Your interpretation of the policy would be correct IF the word "MAY" was not there. That one little THREE LETTER WORD has a huge impact. Because that is the key word which explains that it's at the discretion of the adminstrator or the mods to take the actions THEY DEEM appropriate. Not YOU or ANYONE else.
And last but not least. You asked why Baldrick "rebanned" SyndicateFoo. I will tell you why. The reason Baldrick banned them again was because they ADMITTED they were ElQueso. If they had NOT admitted it, then Baldrick would have to go out of his way to prove it was him and reban him. He's have to check IP Addresses...etc..etc. Baldrick wasn't gonna go that route because SyndicateFoo had NOT broken any of the forum policy and was actually very civil even though you went ballistic on them after their new nic was created. They tried to tell you politely they were sorry and they wanted to move on and be friends. You weren't happy with that and thus, "THIS THREAD." If you think i'm wrong about this...then you tell me why "JUDASE" wasn't immediately banned after it was more then apparent he was "KINGJOHN?" I'll tell you why he wasn't banned....because although it was OBVIOUS it was KINGJOHN....JUDASE never ADMITTED he was. Even though the IP ADDRESSES were the same...it could of been someone related to KJ who lived in the same home and used the same computer. Was this likely? No..of course not...and it was obvious it was the bozo...he wasn't fooling anyone...but I think the mods got a good laugh outta the whole thing...because it was disgraceful to see him take that approach. But it was OBVIOUS it was KJ and JudasE was NOT banned....why is that DetectiveX?
You should be a little more open minded and see what people are telling you. Your are wrong here, plain and simple. Numerous people have told you that and it's time to drop it, realize you've wasted enough time....realize that syndicate FOO/ELQUESO WILL be back...if not ALREADY here.....and there's NOTHING you can do about it except waste more time playing DetectiveX and going around in circles.
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in time it will be closed anyway cos it's so outta hand just cos I pointed out a guy who was banned (which I thought was permanent reading the forum rules) came back and this has upset so many people in me doing so
apologies to all offended cos I didnt realise how sensitive you were, but if the appropriate person could see it fit to change the AND in question to OR then this would make things so much easier for all cos a few people seem to be confused
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indolikaa is right...this thread has no cause to be closed...
Mackem....you are hard headed bro. Your wrong...you keep repeating yourself which is hard to believe..especially after you quote things which make you look even worse then you have already made yourself look.
To keep this concise.... "MAY" is the key word in that forum code. Say that to yourself 100 times BEFORE AND AFTER you try and hunt down the NEW ELQUESO. Then maybe ..just maybe it will sink in.
a few people seem to be confused
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Originally Posted by indolikaa
. How could I be so stupid and actually realise you were supposedly taking the wee
I'm easy posting here at the mo cos I've got nothing better to do, just the same as you I guess :P
I've scoured DVDR forums but nothing is worth posting in, same goes for Off Topic so I guess I'll stick in this thread for now with you and defense
p.s. you really think deep down I actually do give a s*&% about this matter
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Let's all have a rum and coke,and have fun.We are all here looking for solutions and idea's about producing vcd's and dvd's etc.This website is as good as it get's. Donate afew buck's to keep this website going,and use the available links to access all you need. The moderators have better things to do than keeping an eye on juvenile posts.
Get on with what we are all here for.
Brad Millerbmiller,ont.canada
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Originally Posted by MackemX
Originally Posted by bmiller
1) I don't drink alcohol.
2) Don't limit yourself to video. This is a great place to socialize.
3) Yes, this website is the best (S)VCD/DVD site. And a good place to socialize.
4) I donated two weeks ago. Ask Baldrick.
5) I don't see any moderators here. Nor have I seen one in several hours.
6) What are you here for, Brad?
This thread was created for MackemX to defend his position and for the rest of us to viciously attack his theories and ideas. Your posting serves neither purpose. Either get on the ElQueso2 bandwagon or start bashing someone.
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