XP and Zip drives

[FOO]

I'm having a very strange problem. I wonder if anyone
has seen this.
I took a (working) IOMEGA ZIP100 drive out of an old computer (winME)
and put it on a new machine running XP which seemed to detect it it OK..
Some small files will copy to it OK but when I try to copy a
file with a long name or a Folder to it it hangs for a long time
and then says "delayed write failed" and then the whole
system hangs. IOMega site wasn't very helpful and MS claimed a few
issues with it which were to be fixed by removing the drive and
re-installing the OS. !!!! So does that mean Leave the drive out ?
Well, the OS was installed without the drive to start with.
Sux

Clues ?

[Tommyknocker]

I really have issues with mine (external). Even though it is a parallel device, it hates being in a daisy chain with anything else. I have a data switch to share the port with my parallel printer. But since one CD-R holds more than 6 times as much as on 100 MB Zip disk, I keep it only as a desk ornament, especially since I moved on up to DVD-RWs

[FOO]

This one is an IDE all by itself on the second IDE controller.

Microsuck has sucessfully promoted hardware sales
with their clever strategy in XP where older hardware just
doesn't work.
So far I've lost 1 modem, 1 slide scanner, and now 1 Zip drive.

I have a WIN2K machine. I'll try that. If that doesn't work
I'm screwed because all my disks are NTFS so I can't put
win98 as dual boot on any of them.

I can't believe this. Everybody and their dog has a zip drive.
maybe the drive is broken.

[Solarjetman]

Are you using an 80-wire 40-pin cable, or a 40-wire cable? The DMA settings can cause those errors sometimes if you are using the wrong cable on hard drives. Not sure about ZIPs though.

I also heard sometimes this occurs if the WinXP machine uses FAT32. Agian, this does not 100% apply to ZIP drives.


Here are a few web sites that may help:

Your best bet...
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;330174

Might be helpful... be careful, some fixes here are ment for servers, not clients...
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;321733

[hoyboy]

Don't know if zip drives are any more reliable in the us than in australia, but we used them at work to backup our systems every day, and they gave us hell after about 6 months- we went through three of them before we gave up and got a cdrw to do the same job- which also is not working at the moment- gee whiz maybe it's me!

[sterno]

Zip drives have a terrible record. They used to have drivers that would sometimes leave a Windows NT system completely unbootable, and neither Iomega nor MS could explain why or how to fix it (and neither one went to any effort to do so). The bundled applications included executables built against different versions of the same DLL, etc. Everybody I knew who had one had regular failures in both drives and disks. Plus that lovely "click of death" that literally spread like a virus - once you used a Zip disk in a drive that had it, other drives would develop it shortly after you used that disk in them. I used to know a guy who flatly refused to use any Iomega drives because his brother worked for Iomega and had told him how many Zip and Jaz drives came back for repairs.

[jeex]

Zip drives have a terrible record. They used to have drivers that would sometimes leave a Windows NT system completely unbootable, and neither Iomega nor MS could explain why or how to fix it (and neither one went to any effort to do so). The bundled applications included executables built against different versions of the same DLL, etc. Everybody I knew who had one had regular failures in both drives and disks. Plus that lovely "click of death" that literally spread like a virus - once you used a Zip disk in a drive that had it, other drives would develop it shortly after you used that disk in them. I used to know a guy who flatly refused to use any Iomega drives because his brother worked for Iomega and had told him how many Zip and Jaz drives came back for repairs.

man, that brings back memories..

i used to have a zip drive.. the hole "click of death" thing happened to me, i had to have it sent in for service.. the zipdisks were crappy.. that drive was such a piece of shit.. thankfully i was one of the people who went out and bought a cd burner when they went to a reasonable price ($200ish)..

i think i still have a few zipdisks laying around.. i'll burn them on halloween and play that the iomega company goes out of business.

[hoyboy]

They were bad but a THOUSAND times better than using floppies. We were at the stage of using 15 floppies just to back up and was taking about half an hour to do so- and if just one of those floppies were corrupted we had to start again. Ahh Memories

[FOO]

Whatever. I never noticed any problems.
I used to have a dialup at home and a T1 at work so I would
download large stuff at work and bring it home on a zip.
Did that a couple of times a week for 2 or 3 years.

I finally found info on the MS site (in the W2K section) claiming
IDE timing problems with VIA chipsets. (which I have)
They had a fix but it didn't work. I fail to understand how
they thought software can fix a hardware timing problem.

i'll just stick it on another machine.

[Solarjetman]

i'll just stick it on another machine.

If you have another computer, put them in a network and map the drive to the winXP computer. It would then be just like the ZIP drive was in both machines at the same time.

Of course you would have to have both computers turned on.

[FOO]

Not quite. You still have to run in the other room to
put disks in and out.