Sudden TooLAME failure!

[homerpez]

I have used TooLAME as a TMPGEnc plugin for a long while now, effortlessly and successfully. Now, all of the sudden, TooLAME refuses to work!

I have tried under TMPGEnc 12i and 12j, several copies I had made to each TMPGEnc directory, even re-downloaded it fresh. Every time, I get the error:

"Cant copy .../temp6_.mpa"

or something like that, after TooLAME crashes. I think it occurs near to the end of the encode process.

I've tried every concievable way to fix, but it doesn't work!

System is Windows 2000, 256 Megs RAM, dual hard drives. Worked before this, and all else on my system appears to work fine, except for TooLAME.

Has anyone else had this happen? Any fix? Workaround?

<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: homerpez on 2001-09-26 16:19:45 ]</font>

[Scumbag]

You're not running low in disk space are you ? Remember the temp WAV and MP2 files are created in \Windows\temp, or more precisely \%ystemroot%\temp...

Check the dir and see if you haven't got old temp files in there hogging space.

I find that they accumulate and I have to manually clean them out every now and again.

The clue is the '6' in the file name. This indicates that there are already 5 other temporary files.

regards,

jr

[homerpez]

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You're not running low in disk space are you ?
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Hardly. 15 Gigs remaining, at least. The lowest I allow it to get is 9 Gigs remaining.

I even deleted all (and I do mean ALL) the Windows temp files, and it still brings up the error, every time.

Using TMPGEnc by itself to encode audio, by itself, works just fine. I guess that's my work-around.

[Scumbag]

Nah - I suppose 16 Gig free is not running low

I was trying to make the point that whilst you may have heaps of space free on say the D: drive (well that's where I do all my conversions), that the tooLAME encode actually takes place on C: (in my case, as that's my system drive). So it can be confusing if you just have free space on D: and not on C:

[Scumbag]

Nah - I suppose 16 Gig free is not running low

I was trying to make the point that whilst you may have heaps of space free on say the D: drive (well that's where I do all my conversions), that the tooLAME encode actually takes place on C: (in my case, as that's my system drive). So it can be confusing if you just have free space on D: and not on C:

One further idea. I notice you are running 2000. The permissions to the temp directory haven't got screwed somehow ?

Also, can you manually run tooLAME and not get the error ?

regards,

jr


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[Jeomite]

You do not need TMPGEnc in order to create MP2 files...

A workaround can be.. you use TMPGEnc to encode your video only (whether its a m1v or m2v file). Then encode your audio separately using TooLame via the MS-DOS Prompt. Then multiplex them together using bbMPEG (I wouldn't trust TMPGEnc's Tools, they seem to cause problems for some people).

[homerpez]

Bah.

I'll just use TMPGEnc by itself. Quality is no different (when going from WAV to MP2), just TooLAME is faster. I can deal with that, but still curious why that would happen...

BTW: Scumbag (I feel odd calling you that, but...) this would be on the D: drive, as I run a dual-boot, and Windows 2000 is on the D:

Permissions screwed up? doubt it... it is able to create files there, but not move them off? Sounds unlikely.

TMPGEnc it is.

[Scumbag]

>>Scumbag (I feel odd calling you that, but...)<<

It's a long story, and only makes sense if you know anything about Australian politics... Don't worry, I enjoy the pseudonym...

Yep - I know the permission thing is a long shot, but without lot's more dicking around it would be hard to work out what is causing it. Further, I must admit that the quality difference between the TMPGEnc internal and tooLAME is not that great, and so I'd also start getting very sick of debugging the issue, and back to ripping

best wishes,

james

[Jeomite]

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TMPGEnc MP2 Encoding vs TooLame MP2 Encoding...
*BIG* QUALITY DIFFERENCE. I just encoded a wav (from a DVDRip) to MP2 using both encoders. TooLame's output, of course, was great. But, TMPGEnc's ouput was awful: it sounded like the bass was ruined or something. Lots of 'scratchy' noise when people talked or when there is background music...

I HIGHLY recommend anyone to use TooLame as their primer choice in encoding MP2 files. Use TMPGEnc's as a last resort =|

[Xitanium]

i have to agree with you on that, i can hear a NOTICABLE difference at 192 and even 224 kbit between them, and tooLames is waay better.

[homerpez]

Still can't... D'oh!

[chewbacca]

I too use Toolame with TMPGEnc and had a problem with one of my DVD's.
Toolame crashed out everytime at 99%. I tried five different versions of TMPG.
I also tried encoding the file from DOS which went OK but when using the MP2 file with TMPG it crashed at 99%.
I tried ripping the DVD again, I tried DVD2AVI again and I also tried Graph Edit to rip to WAV instead of DVD2AVI.
The only way it works is to use TMPG to convert the WAV.

I have to say the sound though the quality in nowhere near as good Toolame.

I have ripped many DVD's but only this one had a problem.

If anyone has any ideas why or a solution I will be gratefull

Cheers

[SatStorm]

There is an alternative to TooLame / Lame.
It is dBpowerAMP. You have to put a plug in and convert anything you want to mp2. It is freeware.
It is also possible to use that program with Lame, but with a use an external tool, which is not freeware (and I don't have a crack for it, mail anybody?)
The quality is about 95% the same, only 5% less good than Toolame.