ah, is there really no such way of getting DVD quality?

[Beautiful Alone]

I might be getting a DVD-RW soon, but it seems like there is no way of getting the same quality as the DVD movie onto a DVD-R disc? I'm not asking for SVCD qualitys, i want the exact same quality as the DVD movie. well..i know that the .vob files are the exact same quality as the DVD disc, can't i just burn the .vob files onto a DVD-R disc, will the DVD player read it? even it does, most movie are over the capacity of a DVD-R disc, so..maybe 2 DVD-R shold handle all the .vob files.

[Bob W]

50% of the DVD's I have backed up are single layer thus the backup is exactly the same as the original. If you want the other 50% to be of original quality then use DVDX Copy and split the backup into two DVDR's.

[Beautiful Alone]

Huh? How did you get yours the exact as original?

[Bob W]

If the original is a single layer DVD then it will fit on a single DVDR so I rip with SmartRipper into a "VIDEO_TS" folder then just burn that folder with RecordNow Max.

[Beautiful Alone]

Oh really? most single layer DVD will fit on a DVD-R, Does that mean every bit of the movie will be a duplicate as the original?

[Bob W]

Oh really? most single layer DVD will fit on a DVD-R, Does that mean every bit of the movie will be a duplicate as the original?

Yes.

[holistic]

FYI :

DVD is the media - MPEG2 is the content !
It is possible to put 15 minutes of "dvd quality" mpeg2 on a CD. Do not confuse or compare 'quality' with DVD.

ALL ABOUT VOB :

VOB Files : VOB files are the default format of DVD movies. This files may contain several streams of audio/video "multiplexed" together (eg. chapters/language selections)
The whole movie is usually contained within 1 title (usually vts_01), while the rest of the titles may be for things such as extras, trailers ... Video_ts.vob usually contains the main menu information. Each section of the title (eg. vts_01_1.vob) cannot exceed 0.99GB in size. Normally, the title that contains the actual movie is located in a title that has many 0.99GB sized files - the last one in the title set may of course be smaller.

In order to ..... ahem..... backup a single layer DVD follow one of these guides

https://www.videohelp.com/guides.php?howtoselect=6;30

If you wish to 'backup' a dual layer DVD , simply remove the trailers, credits, and other sundry crap. If the file(s) is still to big THEN you need to reencode the mpeg2.

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[macleod]

if the DVD is single layer. use DVDdecrypter (freeware) and rip the ISo image to your hard drive and then use it to burn it to DVDR.

You can use other tools (my favorite is DVDshrink) to rip the entire DVD, just the movie, just portions of it, the DVD/movie with compression and then burn to DVD-R.

There are other tools aside from dvdshrink that can do the same thing (dvd2one, IC7, etc.) and I wont even comment on them. I would suggest doing a search for anyone of these tools and review the comments people make. To save you the time at least one person will say that each tool is the best and at least one person will say each tool looks like crap.

Get them all and judge for yourself.

[poopyhead]

depends on how exact Beautiful Alone wants his copy to be like the original....

DVD5 (single layer) ->DVD-R/+R (single layer) will definitely be as close as it gets....

however, there may be some PC DVD-ROM only files that are also part of the DVD that Beautiful Alone may want to be included...

i.e. T2: Extreme DVD included a PC only copy of the movie that was even higher quality than the version available to play on the TV.

as for DVD9, you will never get an exact copy...even using DVDXCOPY or DVDFAB to DVD9 (dual layer)->2 DVD-R/+R (2 single layer) will not make an exact copy, as some of the video will need to be split between the discs...(i.e. you're gonna need to have a "insert disc 2" screen)

[mkelley]

as for DVD9, you will never get an exact copy...even using DVDXCOPY or DVDFAB to DVD9 (dual layer)->2 DVD-R/+R (2 single layer) will not make an exact copy, as some of the video will need to be split between the discs...(i.e. you're gonna need to have a "insert disc 2" screen)

Yes, but don't confuse BA -- the main thrust of his/her question appears to be one of quality. There will be *zero* quality difference between a DVD9 split to multiple disks if you use no compression. True, some of the menu functions may not work exactly the same (you may need to put in disk 1 or 2 depending upon the menu function you select) and you do have that insert screen graphic, but the actual content will be, bit for bit, exactly the same and impossible to tell the difference (PC movies aside).

I know you know this, but we just want to be clear for BA's basic question.

[Beautiful Alone]

well..how can you tell if the disc is single layer or not?

[poopyhead]

well..how can you tell if the disc is single layer or not?

https://www.videohelp.com/forum/userguides/141024.php#dvd5ordvd9

[Beautiful Alone]

Well..if the DVD is less than 4.7gig wouldn't that be single layer? also, isn't 90% of the DVD's nowadays dual layer? and how exactly do you copy a single layer DVD movies to a DVD-R? and when i say a duplicate copy, does that included subtitles, special features, subtitles, Anamorphic etc..?

[thayne]

Saying 50% of DVD's are single layer is a bit of a strech, unless they are all porn DVD's! Most hollywood DVD's produced today are dual layer. Only the older ones are single layer.

[thayne]

Well..if the DVD is less than 4.7gig wouldn't that be single layer? also, isn't 90% of the DVD's nowadays dual layer? and how exactly do you copy a single layer DVD movies to a DVD-R? and when i say a duplicate copy, does that included subtitles, special features, subtitles?

You just rip it and burn it, it's contains everything. It's a copy of the original.

[poopyhead]

surprisingly, more of the new rls are single-layer than what i would expect...

most likely, if a DVD is double-sided, both sides will be single-layer....

otherwise, at most..only 1 side will be dual-layer.....haven't encountered a dual-layer, double-sided DVD yet...

[Beautiful Alone]

Ok, i've have never used DVD Decrypter before, but i've just downloaded it not too long ago and ripped a movie with it, and is doesn't seem that hard. Well..it only rips the movies files which are the .vobs files, and no extras features. How could it be the same as the original if there are no special features?

Also, I was reading the guide DVD-5 to one recordable DVD
https://www.videohelp.com/forum/userguides/141024.php#dvd5

The burning step with DVD Decrypter. On Step 2. Open your created .ISO file. I 've ripped the movie and i don't see any ISO files laying around in my destination folder, am i missing something here? thanks!

[adam]

otherwise, at most..only 1 side will be dual-layer.....haven't encountered a dual-layer, double-sided DVD yet...

Double Sided, Dual Layered DVDs are out there but they are pretty rare. They are called DVD 18's. I've run across 3 or 4 of them before. Windtalkers was a recent movie released on DVD 18 and The Stand is also one.

[poopyhead]

Well..it only rips the movies files which are the .vobs files, and no extras features. How could it be the same as the original if there are no special features?

in DVDdecryptor, goto edit->select all files....you need to tell the proggie to rip all files by selecting all files...THIS ONLY OCCURS FOR FILE MODE

Also, I was reading the guide DVD-5 to one recordable DVD https://www.videohelp.com/forum/userguides/141024.php#dvd5

The burning step with DVD Decrypter. On Step 2. Open your created .ISO file. I 've ripped the movie and i don't see any ISO files laying around in my destination folder, am i missing something here? thanks!

if you want to make an .iso image file, as per the instructions, you need to rip in ISO MODE, not FILE MODE....in DVDdecryptor, goto->mode->iso->read

then, you need to make sure # of layers is 1...this won't work for dual-layer DVD9 discs....if it's a single-layer DVD5 disc, then you can rip in ISO MODE, which will give you an .iso file in your destination folder.

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btw, you have win98 and/or any hdd formatted as FAT32?

[poopyhead]

Double Sided, Dual Layered DVDs are out there but they are pretty rare. They are called DVD 18's. I've run across 3 or 4 of them before. Windtalkers was a recent movie released on DVD 18 and The Stand is also one.

isn't that kinda of a marketing boo-boo???? since double-sided, dual-layered disc requires whole new manufacturing process from single-sided, dual-layered discs...

and they could turn the double-sided, dual-layered DVDs into a 2 disc set featuring 2 single-sided, dual-layered discs.....ppl seem to think those special edition 2 DVD sets are way kewl

prolly cheaper to manufacture that way.

[Beautiful Alone]

what? that's it? rip it, and burn the ISO = exact copy? sound's like a walk in the park. What about the dual layer DVD9's..can i get rid of the special features and put it onto a DVD-R?

[poopyhead]

What about the dual layer DVD9's..can i get rid of the special features and put it onto a DVD-R?

are you not reading the links carefully?

https://www.videohelp.com/forum/userguides/141024.php#dvd9

most of those proggies allows you to strip away the menus, extras, audio tracks, subs that you don't want.

[Beautiful Alone]

When you shrink it down and fit it onto a DVD-R, how does the quality compare to the original?

[poopyhead]

When you shrink it down and fit it onto a DVD-R, how does the quality compare to the original?

depends on how much you need to compress the main movie to fit on one DVD-R....most of time, you don't need to compress at all....

[Beautiful Alone]

well..i don't really care for the extra features. Just the movie, anamorphic, and the subtitles should do it .

[Sammer7686]

Is the quality from dvd 9 to dvd5 a lot different? Or should i really be getting a double sided disc or using two dvd-r? Also after i've made the dvd92dvd5 what is the best program to use to burn it? InstantCopy, DVD2ONE,DVD95Copy and DVD Shrink are the programs that dvdrhelp.com shows me are these good programs to use, if so which one should i use of those four?

[tonyp12]

If you can keep the original mpeg encoding, the copy WILL be
as good as the original.

As most Movie DVDs are DVD9 you would need to skip
the extras and the additonal soundtracks.

Use this (older) guide by "Enemywithin"

http://www.vcdhelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=315500&highlight=#315500


This will work with 60% of movie DVDs out there.

The other ones use IntantCopy7 for really fast conversion with
good quility.

[poopyhead]

one last time:

DVD-R/+R are DVD5 holding 4.38 G. They are single-layer. There is NO SUCH THING as a dual-layer DVD-R/+R. However, there ARE double-sided, single-layer DVD-R/+R. But, since you will have to get off your ass from the couch and flip the double-sided DVD over, it's basically the same as having 2 separate, single-sided DVD-R/+R.

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if a commercial DVD is single-layer, DVD5, then you can make an EXACT 1:1 copy of it onto a DVD-R/+R, since DVD-R/+R is also a single-layer DVD5.

this goes as well for double-sided, single-layer commerical DVDs (aka DVD10). since each side of the commerical DVD is a single-layer, DVD5, you can do a 1:1 copy of each side to DVD-R/+R, yielding 2 separate DVD-R/+R discs.

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if a commercial DVD is double-layer, DVD9, then you have a couple of choices:

1) fit the commerical dual-layer, DVD9 to a single-layer, DVD5 DVD-R/+R.

a) you can choose to keep all the extras and menus. however, the
video quality overall will degrade.

b) you can choose to only keep the main movie and remove any
extras and menus. if the main movie can fit on a single-layer,
DVD5 DVD-R/+R WITHOUT any compression, then you will have NO
degradation in quality from the commercial DVD. if the main movie
canNOT fit on a single-layer, DVD5 DVD-R/+R, then you will have to
compress it down to fit. usually, this will still achieve better quality
than if you were to keep the menu's and extras, as in a)

2) split the commercial dual-layer, DVD9 to 2 single-layer, DVD5 DVD-R/+R. in this case, there will be NO degradation in quality. 2 programs that does this:

DVDXCOPY: $99...not cheap

DVDFAB: freeware, but will include couple of nag screens. also, author will no longer keep up (revise) the program, as Germany recently passed an "anti-piracy" bill.

this goes as well for double-sided, dual-layer commerical DVDs (aka DVD18). these are vary rare, as they are much more expensive to manufacture. however, if you encounter one of these, you can basically go through the same process as above, since each side of the commerical DVD is a dual-layer DVD9.

[funkguy4]

If you don't want extras, just the main movie, then go get DVD Shrink (doesn't add shit like DVDXCopy). DVD Shrink allows you to make the extras still images and to remove all audio you don't want from any parts. It maintains the original menus and all. I know it work's 100% because I just backed up my Triple X DVD and the movie looks just like the original!

[Beautiful Alone]

When you rip the single layer to ISO. How do you determine which is the ISO file? There're 2 files in my folder, one being 3.9GIG and the other 4.3KB.

Thanks.