How do i Burn as DVD-ROM ?

[Joef2k2]

reason i am asking is this is beacause i have just been looking around and i have found out that >> DVD-ROM was the first DVD standard to hit the market and is a read-only format. The video or game content is burned onto the DVD once and the DVD will run on any DVD-ROM-equipped device. So i would like to know how to burn as DVD-ROM and not DVD-Video or anythin like that. Reason i am asking this is because i have been trying for days to get my created DVD to work in all players but it just wont happen. Where as i have tryed my friends and his works in most and the PS2. I was thinking his does this because it is in the DVD-ROM form as i have just checked. So if possible can any1 tell me how or where to go to find out? plz thankyou

[scottrwn98]

Now are you trying to get DVD-ROM for video?

If you are, I am using NERO Burning 5.5 and you can create a DVD project (DVD UDF/ISO9600) and burn it using those settings. I did this and now my DVD+R's will play on my standalone player. The booktype is set to DVD-ROM.

Hope that helps

[pijetro]

Can this be done through Nero Express?? I would also like to try this format.......

If not, what freeware software is out there for this???

[scottrwn98]

If you read the topic under AUTHOR (HOW TO) it explains that you have to set Nero to burn UDF 1.02 or something like that.

I tried that and it still didn't work, but I took an old DVD+R that was burned and the disc info say UDF / ISO9600 rather than UDF alone. So the article helped a lot !!!! ... really cleared up some thing on DVD±R's. I use DVD+R's so it helped.

NERO 5.5 (NOT NERO EXPRESS ) has a templeate for DVD, DVD UDF, DVD UDF/ISO9600.

Get a program to identify the disc to make sure the bit-setting/book type is set to DVD-ROM (Media will always say DVD±R)

I don't think there is a demo for Nero (there is a demo but may not be able to select that template)

Hope that helps...sure helped me .. Read those articles under the HOW TO section.

[Joef2k2]

ive tyred to do it that way on a number of occasions but it still wont work. could it be the dvd disk i am using? because my friend has done it the same way as me with a different disk and his works fine. And do you only need to drag the video_ts and audio_Ts across? how do i also know if the booktype is set to rom

[scottrwn98]

your DVD project should have all VIDEO_TS and AUDIO_TS folders (with VOB's and such - in all caps - in the VIDEO_TS...obviously)

Ok, NERO 5.5 (not EXPRESS) close the wizard and select DVD and choose the DVD UDF/ISO templete. Do a standard drag and drop. When you burn the disc, one of the tabs on the WRITE CD menu has UDF 1.02 (1.2 I can't remember unless I look) and tell it to burn physically. Once you burn the Disc, put the DVDr back into the drive and click Disc Info ... it should bring up a box that say what the book type is...basic information Media, book type, sessions, tracks, available space ... etc.

The media I am using is Vertabiam (pardon my spelling) DataLifeDiscs (again, pardon my spelling ... I don't know what it is unless I see it and Im at work) ... they are DVD+R's 2.4x write.

So far, they all play. Check your DVD player and put your burned disc in several DVD players. Does it work on your PC dvd player?

Also, burn your info to DVD±RW to make sure it will play on your DVD-ROM on your PC

Ramble Ramble ... hope that helps ... I'm not an advanced user to DVDburning but from what I've read, I'm passing on. I'm a beginner as well.

[Joef2k2]

thnx for the quick reply and i appreciate it but i have been through that and must have wasted about 9 disks just tryin different methods and none of them worked. I am using datawrite 4x DVD-R 4.7gb disk and i read about them in the section on the left and they dnt fair to well. My mate has datasafe/datawrite classic disks and they worked fine on my player and also the console. Both information on disks are exactly the same I.e VIDEO_TS AND AUDIO_TS !! ive read about creating a image or sumthin with nero then burning? will this make any difference or do i need to try a different disk maybe?

[scottrwn98]

Now I think this is correct .. SOMEONE correct me if I'm wrong

ISO disk images are a huge file with all the data in it (like a zip file only no compression) so it will tell the burner to burn according to the disk image (all files etc).

When I burned a DVD at my fathers work, the DVD burned and then said that the data on DVD didn't match the Data on the hard drive...the dvd is about 65% readable .. even on PC. And I think the ISO disc image will correct this.

Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.

I would seriously try new discs. Buy a small quantity so you don't have a large package of shitty discs. Try the Viberain (pardon spelling) they make both DVD+R and DVD-R's.

[Joef2k2]

so theres no point trying to make a image then? as it will not help? my best bet is to try a new selection of disks yeh?

[scottrwn98]

Disk Images help somehow...I don't know how exactually ... do a google search on burning disc images.

Ask some of your friends that have burners ... borrow a disc from them. Like I said, I wasted 7 DVD+R's on burning different methods and the UDF/ISO one fixed it. Do you have NERO burning? EXPRESS didn't work for me either. DOn't use Express...it didn't do the UDF/ISO.

What is your burner and what is the media (+ or -)?

Why can't hardward just work? Its like Microsoft.

[Joef2k2]

yes i have the latest nero. i will go look up now on creating images and try this method

[Joef2k2]

how do i create a image from sumthin of my hard drive and not off another dvd like this guide i found said?

[pijetro]

Yes, thank you, I've read the guides. So I'm assuming the answer is "No", you can't burn a DVD-rom via UDF/ISO within Nero Express. The only thing remotely connected to compatibility would be checking the box before burning that reads "High compatliblity mode". What this means, I don't know....

As far as disk imaged .ISO files are concerned, I think the main advantage is that the .ISO is generic, and can be dropped into any burning application that supports the format. I once burned a VIDEO_TS, and made a coaster (perhaps it was the disk), but to be safe, I created an .ISO image, and used that to burn the final DVD, and Voila, it worked...It's an extra step, but if it's gonna create coasters in the future, then perhaps .ISO is the way to go....The .ISO shouldn't be a huge filesize. It should be a copy of your Video_TS, but with different headers, that's all...

Regarding compatibility issues (from the original post), buy a decent Maxell (swallow the cost), and see if it plays on your friend's player. I've found that some of the older players are finicky and will only accept better grade media....Perhaps this will alleviate the first question of compatibility before you start chasing your tail ......
As far as playing in all players.......Good luck, this VCDhelp.com would be too quiet without this topic.......

[Joef2k2]

ok but how do i go about creating the iso from my video_ts folder or do i have to do it before this? all dvds are on my harddrive so how can i create images from these

[scottrwn98]

You should be able to just import them in Roxio or a CD burning program and Save As ISO.

[Joef2k2]

umm it stil dont work even though i did it the image way. im just gona go get some different dvd discs and see if its any difference

[Joef2k2]

is there anythin hidden on the dvd or anythin like that or is it only the audio and video folders with the information in it

[scottrwn98]

VIDEO_TS is VOB's ... of course, AUDIO_TS I have no idea why it is blank and why we need it ... I ahve burned DVD's before with no AUDIO_TS and it worked fine. I wouldn't chance it now.

So you saved a disc image (*.ISO) and no such luck?

Yeah, a new media might work ... Maxell or Viterbitm. Do some reasearh on DVD±R and see what is the best mediam for your DVD burner.

Coasters suck .. I have many!

[Joef2k2]

well i used nero and created a image then burned it on a disc and tryed it in the player but didnt even work !! atleast i know i have all the required folders then such as video ts and audio ts etc !! i might just do wot u said and look up the dvdr media

[scottrwn98]

Are you playing your DVD±R's on your compuer or DVD standalone player? And what Media are you using? (Plus or Minus)

[Joef2k2]

ok well i have played them on my pc through power dvd and they work no problem, i have also played them on my ps2 and dvd player and they dnt work !! i am using dvd -r

[scottrwn98]

There is an option for forcing compatability (XBOX ) you might try that ... but I remember reading a thing on PS2 that a lot of DVD±R's will not play on PS2. Just a rumor, but check into that as well.

It could be a hundred thigns...


Wish you the best of luck !

[Joef2k2]

thnx again but like i said earlier my friends datasafe/dataright classic yellow disks worked a treat on my ps2 and dvd player so maybe these r the 1s i need to go for? wot u mean tehre cud b a hundred things

[scottrwn98]

It could be a hundred things ... meaning it could be multipule things of why it will not play a DVD-R in your ps2. Get one of those discs from your buddy and burn it.

[Joef2k2]

ok i will do, thnx for the replyies and i will post bak here if it works and if it dont i will post bak for more ideas

[MOVIEGEEK]

@Joef2k2,
If trying different media does not work download Ifoedit(free in Tools),load your ifo file and run "Get VTS sectors" and answer "OK" to all the questions.
Also if you do make an ISO file try burning with DVDDecrypter.

[Joef2k2]

wot will ifoedit and get vts do?

[MOVIEGEEK]

Correct most errors.

[Joef2k2]

but whats sayin i have errors?

[Cornucopia]

reason i am asking is this is beacause i have just been looking around and i have found out that >> DVD-ROM was the first DVD standard to hit the market and is a read-only format. The video or game content is burned onto the DVD once and the DVD will run on any DVD-ROM-equipped device. So i would like to know how to burn as DVD-ROM and not DVD-Video or anythin like that. Reason i am asking this is because i have been trying for days to get my created DVD to work in all players but it just wont happen. Where as i have tryed my friends and his works in most and the PS2. I was thinking his does this because it is in the DVD-ROM form as i have just checked. So if possible can any1 tell me how or where to go to find out? plz thankyou

I'm sure that the other posters on this thread might be giving you helpful advice, but I don't want others who may be checking this out to be given false information.

Joef2k2,
You mainly want to know how you can burn your DVD-Video material onto DVD±R/W in order to give maximum (total, if possible) compatibility. You add in that bit about DVD-ROM, but actually this is misleading because you are confusing a couple of different usages of the term "ROM".
The DVD Forum's official "DVD-ROM" (DVD Book A) refers to the basic underlying physical and logical structure of the data. It explains how all this data is organized so it will be read correctly by players. It probably (don't have the spec in front of me right now, so I'm going by memory) just assumes something which you and many others aren't---that the data gets put on the disc NOT by burning, but by factory stamping/pressing!
BTW-Books B (DVD-Video) and E (DVD-Audio) are built on top of Book A and should be more appropriately termed "Application" specs. Even though they were originally only available for Stamped discs, their domain has expanded to include Recordables and ReWritables (Books C and D and the +Format).
How do you get data onto a stamped disc, if not by burning? You make a DLT tape backup of your disc image, send that to the factory, they make a glass master, etc.

What makes alot of the difference with playability has to do with REFLECTIVITY and PIT GEOMETRY and COHERENCE, along with a strict observance of the LOGICAL STRUCTURE and FILE SYSTEM.
With a DVD-recordable, you can't do anything about reflectivity. You can slightly help geometry and coherence by always burning at 1x with the highest quality media and the most up-to-date and highest quality burner.

What you can change is observance of the logical structure and file system.
This is where the authoring and burning apps are of prime importance.
This is also where another confusing use of the term "ROM" comes to play.

Unlike CD's which have Raw Audio type tracks and Raw MPEG video type tracks as well as General Data "ROM" tracks, ALL discs in DVD-land are "ROM" tracks with a filesystem (in particular, Mode1, UDF or UDF/Bridge). This includes DVD-Video material, DVD-Audio material, and other computer-specific "ROM" material.

Then you have burning apps like Nero that have DVD burning capability and give you TOO MANY choices. These choices are mainly in the form of FILESYSTEM. ALL of them will give you "ROM" (aka Mode1 General DATA) tracks, ALL of them should include a UDF filesystem, and in theory, all of them should make playable DVD-video.
Since some players are older and still require ISO9660 over UDF, and since there are multiple versions of the UDF spec (v 1.02, 1.50, 2.0 and 2.01), it is possible and even likely that some of these combinations don't work as smoothly as they should. The "DVD-Video" template in Nero is supposed to be unique from the others in that it is supposed to be more compliant with respect to the stuff mentioned above.
In theory.
Various builds of Nero have shown certain bugs here, and that's the problem with using any of the DVD templates. The only way you know for sure is by doing testing after the fact and by evaluating the disc with tools that completely understand the UDF, DVD-ROM, and DVD-Video specs. (too $$$ for most people)

The "Book type" flag in the lead-in is another problem. Stamped DVD's are all [DVD-ROM] type. DVD-R's are all [DVD-R] type. DVD-RW's are all [DVD-RW] and DVD-RAM's are all [DVD-RAM]. Then there's the +R/W's...
This is the only format that allows one to change the book type. This is good and bad.
In a perfect technical world, all +R's and +RW's should have the [+RW] book type and still be completely playable and compatible.
The reason so many are set to [ROM] is precisely because many players aren't tolerant of non-[ROM] or of non-[-R] discs, and this is a workaround couched as a "feature".
Actually, if a player sees a non-[ROM] type disc and by reading the flag, knows it, it could adjust it's sensitivity to the optical range that is appropriate for that book type. Some players might already do this. However, if +R/W's use the [ROM] book type, these same players would be confused into thinking "Hey it's a ROM and low reflectivity so it must be a Double-layer" and then "No, it doesn't have the double-layer flag"? This is where some of the incompatibility may lay, and is a Catch-22 for the +R/W format. Maybe as players get better, more and more discs would be able to be set to [+RW] and still be ok. I dunno...

My $2.00 worth (sorry I know it's long),

Scott