AAHH MIchael Jordan is back!

[speedy]

Ask for Jordan's autograph? You got to be kidding. I NEVER asked for anybody's authograph and never will either. Frankly I don't understand hero worship when it comes to sports or show business celebrities.

Like I said Jordan was probably the best basketball player ever. I'll give him that. That don't mean I worship the guy, run after him like some 10 year old looking for an authgraph or run out and buy products he gets millions to endorse.

The game itself is so biased that unless you are close to seven feet tall you have no serious chance of making it to the professional teams. What do you think Jordan would have been doing if he was born five feet tall?

The issue isn't if or not he can play basketball, rather the attention he demands simply because he is Michael Jordan. He's had his time in the sun, time to step down. Knowing Jordan he won't, he'll have to be carried off the pubic stage kicking and screaming. Then he'll probably try to join the PGA. He can't handle his oversized ego. Can't keep his tongue in his mouth either.

[d4n13l]

Speedy and Pacmania_2001,
You are both right: He is a nice egomaniac.


The Lone Gunman,
What are you doing back? Didnt you previously say:
"No offence but look at the facts. What did the british olympic team end up with at the 1996 games: 0 yes thats right 0 medals"
...Which was the stupidest thing that I have EVER heard someone say. Please explain your statement using words that make sense.

(lame) jaw,
Firstly, its not funny I think Boxing is a British sport -Boxing IS a British sport. Calling any "fighting" - boxing, is wrong. Its like saying ANY ball game is called Football. No, SPORTS are defined by RULES. Jack Broughton laid down the first rules in 1743, and introduced gloves. The Queensbury Rules later followed and Boxing as we know it today evolved from that. Boxing is certainly very British.

jaws (somewhat foolishly) said:
"Its no secret we have the best athletes."
Dont they preferred to be called AFRICAN Americans though?hehe
If US athletes are supposedly superior to others (sounds like what the Nazi's proclaimed the Aryan athletes to be), how come a British Boxer (A.Harrison) won a GOLD medal recently? Ironic that, isnt it?

jaws,
You also said...LOL at this...)
"You find something the Brits could beat us at and I will shut up. Wait, I take that back. Something besides ignorance. You already shown me that."
HA! LOL all day long at your "intelligence".
That was lame...
You should have stopped at "You find something the Brits could beat us at and I will shut up." - you could have recovered from that but to go on was just being a plain sillybilly.
jaws, your brain is supposed to work FOR you, not against you! May I suggest that before you make another post, to do the following: Firstly, engage your (small shark) brain (sorry if you dont have one of these so called brains). THEN speak. It generally works better in that order. However, to engage your brain it must have a "think" mode, which I suspect you do not have and is causing you to look like an ass. However, all is not lost - you can obtain a "thinking" mode upgrade for your 'brain' from here:
www.brainupgrades.com

Anyway...
The Brits (BTW, Im not a Brit) could easily beat you at Football, Rugby and Tiddlywinks() to name a few. BUT BEFORE you reply with another half assed lame post, REMEMBER what YOU said (Wait dont tell me: Your brain has no "remember" mode either). "SOMETHING" was the key word in your challenge. Well seeing those sports are indeed "SOMETHING", I guess that you had better not post here anymore.
LOL at you digging your own grave (lame) jaw.

Now as to your rather ironic last two sentances. That is called hypocrisy. Look it up in the dictionary (if you have one), its spelt H Y P O C R I S Y. Do you want the AOL keyword? Its 'hypocrisy'.
Or go here to find out more:
www.hypocrite.net
Jaws, it was once said that when you find yourself in a hole you should stop digging. Well, you seem to be in the Grand Canyon - High time to stop digging, dont you think...
(oh no, sorry you dont think. hehe)
LOL AT YOU DIGGING YOUR OWN GRAVE... LAMER.


P.S. Attempts at Gay slurs are lame, lame , lame and traits of a true dumabass.

P.P.S. Please honour your promise of 'shuting up'

[d4n13l]

"What do you think Jordan would have been doing if he was born five feet tall?"

If he was born 5 foot tall then I can only say that I would feel sorry for his mother...

[noen-tree]

one of the best sports in the usa is taking your dads gun to school & killing all your mates or hiding your beer in a brown paper bag & pretending your blind & asking everybody for money

[d4n13l]

lest we forget lynching. KKK love that sport.


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[speedy]

I know I few posters here have a well deserved reputation for being pompous, ignorant and boastful, but my new found "friend" d4n13l can't seem to get anything right.

Case in point boxing, foolishly uttering the groudless nonsense "Firstly, its not funny I think Boxing is a British sport -Boxing IS a British sport."

Well then explain how Homer in the Lliad cica 800 BC which sure beats the 1700's wrote about a boxing match. No, the British didn't event boxing. You would have been closer to say the Greeks and Romans, but it even predates their history.

[jaw2957]

Its been a while since I replied, I've been watching my Texas Aggies beat the hell out of Notre Dame!! d4n its time for you to go away. Just read speedy's post before mine and shut up! Consider yourself lucky that your claims of the British being better at certain sports can never be proven, or you would definitely be exposed for the fraud you are. The REAL sports that we play eachother at are always onesided. US on top(we could probably beat your asses at soccer and we could care less for it). SURPRISE!! Boxing is a british sport is just stupid. Maybe they added the girls holding up the number of the round so you consider it British(i'm reaching here, but I'm trying to see why you would say somethng so stupid, especially given your previous wit LOL)! I'm going to cut this short instead of writing a 5 page repetative reply like some people. How many times is this going to take. By the way stop with the whole face thing. Its annoying as hell and its ruining the little respect you have less. And listen to speedy, he's a man of wisdom.

[The Lone Gunman]

Sorry about my comment on the zero medals, turns out you got 1 gold medal( I dont count the others). You got beat by countries like Ethiopia and New Zealand. Dont get me wrong, New Zealand and Ethiopia are good sporting countries but how much does britain SUCK. 1 GOLD MEDAL, thats all I hate to tell you but that SUCKS. How much do you spend on sport compared to a place like Ethiopia and for them to come and beat you, well that must SUCK.

[The Lone Gunman]

[quote]
"Its no secret we have the best athletes."
Dont they preferred to be called AFRICAN Americans though?hehe
[quote]

You could also look at it like this: African AMERICANS. If they compete for that country than thats who they are. In this case AMERICANS

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The Brits (BTW, Im not a Brit) could easily beat you at Football, Rugby and Tiddlywinks() to name a few.


The brits suck at football no matter what code. They import all their talent in from other countries. If you are talking about Rugby League, then they suck at that too. They always get beaten by the Australian Team. About Rugby Union. I'm sorry who is the world champions at the moment, oh yes thats right AUSTRALIA. Maybe Britain is second best, no wait SOUTH AFRICA is, oh well too bad. And as for you tiddlywinks claim. When was the last time that was in the Olympics or even broadcast on tv(outside britain). Want to try another sport? How about cricket? No, Britain cant play that well either. Swimming, No cant do that either. Athletics, hmmm NO.





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[adam]

All in all I think Mike's return to the game is going to be somewhat uneventful. With no more illegal defense your going to see Mike consistently getting double and triple teamed. That is if he is even still good enough to warrant it. This means his teammates are going to get LOTS of looks at the basket. Mike is one of the best team players ever so he'll get them the ball but how well the Wizards do depends on everyone BUT Mike. If they can stick their shots they will have an advantage over most teams, unfortunately I doubt they can do that.

Mike will get the occasional amazing drive but for the most part he's going to be setting up plays rather than making them.

[d4n13l]

speedy,
My statement was not groundless: As sport is defined by rules Boxing, as we know it has its roots firmly set in Britain. Queensbury rules. Ie Modern Boxing. There is a huge difference in fighting and boxing. Using your defintion of a sport - there would be no such thing as an American sport. Hey, Im sure that someone once in Greece 1000 BC threw an elongated object to someone else - That means that US Football is Greek! I think not. Its akin to Baseball being called a British sport as it came from English rounders. Lame defintion isnt it speedy my "friend"? For you to not discredit anyone elses posts here is incredible. Can you not see the stupidity in other peoples posts? I thought that you had some subjectivity...
I like you speedy, you are essntially the same as me - arguementative (Will you dispute that?).

Lone Gunman. You proved your ignorance to the world by declaring that Britain won 0 medals in the 1996 olympic games. Then you turn it around and make another lame statement - Remember if a country like Ethiopia beats Britain, then arent they beating America too? In your own words:
"How much do you spend on sport compared to a place like Ethiopia and for them to come and beat you, well that must SUCK."
You dumbass...
Even more to the point, I couldnt even care less about how many medals Britain won in the 1996 olympics as Im not British (Even if I was I wouldnt care). I was merely pointing out the facts to you. Why you are trying to impress me with the supposed supiority of US athletes is pointless. For all you know I could be American...

Jaws, I hoped that you would honour your promise but alas, you do not. You instead prove yourself to be a typical Texas dumass: Arrogant as hell. You make these stupid broad statements like the US could beat Britain at ANY sport. I wont even bother to reply to that as Im sure that everybody outside of Texas knows differently. You are really clutching at straws here...
Your sycophantic appraisal of speedy is pitying to say the least. *YOU* offer no reasonable arguements. Instead of giving evidence to back up your claims (Ie. Boxing isnt British) you just manage to muster up "It isnt. Because I said so". You are very inapt when it comes to debating.

To Lone Gun Man and Jaws,
Why you feel the need to boast about your countries sporting ability is really sad. I dont care how many medals some country won. I dont care how good the US, or any country for that matter, is at any sport. You possess no real grasp of what sport is all about. Now if IM ignorant then I pity you two.

P.S.
lighten up, its only a bit of fun.
(jaws - )


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[d4n13l]

Sorry that my posts need to be so long: I have to reply to 3 different people.

[d4n13l]

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[speedy]

I hasten to remind d4n13l what he said to me privately a few days ago, named that he admits to acting immature at times. Yes, indeed you do by always trying to have the last word, correcting other people's opinions and qualifying or retreating from what you said once you've been proven wrong, you can't seem to bring yourself to admitting you WERE wrong. Indeed, all signs of immaturity.

Your retreat on what your orignally said on boxing is but one of many examples. Yes I can be arguementative, but I back up what I say with facts. You seem to prefer smileys, long winded diatribes name calling. Like you yourself said, immature. Very!

[d4n13l]

At least I can admit to being immature sometimes, unlike you. Your "tea" post and that other one you posted were very immature.
I didnt retreat on what I said about boxing. Why was I wrong about boxing being British? It is. Sports are defined by rules. Those rules came from england.
By your attempt to claim it is Greek would mean that baseball is English as well.
The Queensbury rules were laid out by a Brit. Fact.
I only resort to name calling with people like The Lone Gun Man (for the olympic post) and Jaws (for making us believe the US is a master race).
Im not trying to change OPINIONS as you say I am here. Whos OPINION on WHAT am I trying to change?
Speedy my friend, you have displayed all of the traits you accuse me of yourself.

P.S.


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[d4n13l]

Me again.
Why is it 'some people' here dont have a sense of humour? I laugh at all of this absurd argueing. Its pathetic fun and your part of it too, yet you make out IM so immature (which I admit I can be at times) and your word IS law - Yanks can be so flappy mouthed and arrogant it is beyond belief. You sit there on your PC on the other side of the globe and act so seriously - Who gives a f.uck about what we are "argueing" about? Not me.
I thought it was a joke that Yanks only laugh at things like a pie getting pushed in someones face but I am beginning to wonder if it is actually true.

I also found this article:
Click to see
It raises some very interseting points about your "wonderland". Written BY a yank! Talk about adding insult to injury. LOL

This is all one big joke. If you dont like it then dont post. Why do YOU feel the need to reply if it is "beneath" you? Just dont bother. Why not just f.uck off and answer newbie posts about how to install Nero. Im here because i want to be. If there is one thing this world could do without its hypocrites. Especially if they are dumb enough to take this seriously.
Flamewars are fun.
After all we are all homo-sapiens so who gives a f.uck about their country? A country that snoops on you and keeps secrets from you? Being so patriotic to ANY country is really pathetic. Instead of being a media brainwashed dumbass, learn that your country is not all it is cracked up to be.


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[speedy]

I'll begin by quoting you: "Lighten up, its only a bit of fun." I suggest you take your own advice, it seems you're getting a bit hot under the collar.

My problem with you is you're just another pompous ass with a big mouth with way too much time on his hands. You insist on injecting your narrow view of what's correct, wrongly attempt to then elevate those foolish opinions to fact, then stick your head in the sand when proven in error.

Take your obsession with boxing. You're dead wrong. It didn't begin in England simply because you say Queensbury rules is the starting point and anything prior is irrelevant. Such pigheaded ignorance isn't the mark of a scholar, it is the sure sign of a bigot that refues to be educated to the truth.

I don't know why you don't like Americans, but it is clear you don't. I also don't understand you incessant whining that you're not British, yet you seem obsessed with all things British proven by your frequently poisonous comments in trying to defend everything British.

Unless you are ashamed of your nationality whatever it is, it is time to admit what you are or I'll be forced to conclude you're ashamed to be what ever it is.

Please do try to contain your hostility and respond as an adult instead of acting like some spoiled nine year old having another temper tantrum.

[d4n13l]

"I'll begin by quoting you: "Lighten up, its only a bit of fun." I suggest you take your own advice, it seems you're getting a bit hot under the collar."
- Like you then.
"My problem with you is you're just another pompous ass with a big mouth with way too much time on his hands. You insist on injecting your narrow view of what's correct, wrongly attempt to then elevate those foolish opinions to fact, then stick your head in the sand when proven in error."
- Also sounds like you.
"Take your obsession with boxing. You're dead wrong. It didn't begin in England simply because you say Queensbury rules is the starting point and anything prior is irrelevant. Such pigheaded ignorance isn't the mark of a scholar, it is the sure sign of a bigot that refues to be educated to the truth."
- mmm, sounds like you. Again.

Ok what "nationality" am I?
A homo-sapien.
I am only going to state that if had anything to hide it would be that I was an American too. Now does that make sense?
Think about it...

Now, Boxing.
Is not my obsession. Im just telling you, *MODERN* BOXING AS WE KNOW IT ORIGINATED FROM BRITAIN (I do stress the use of the word modern here). I know the greeks had a "sport" of fighting in the ancient olympics - which "could" be regarded as boxing. However, you cant really say it was "Boxing" as in the sport of today; it was basically just two guys fighting to the death. If I have to concede that boxing is Greek, then you would have to agree that Baseball is British (from English Rounders) using the same logic. Would you agree?
I could post here all day long. I have the time to waste as you say. Much like yourself. Why dont you lead by example and dont post if its a waste of time?
At least I keep my posts to you in private or in this post. I dont START posts to try and goad you on do I?
Nor do I profess to be a scholar. I have a degree sure, but I dont advertise the fact to everyone. Anyway, i didnt get a degree for nothing you know - I can talk sense sometimes (Surprised? Me to)

Also... smileys rule.

Speedy, I love you. For making today fun. By forgetting that we are adults and being teenagers once more. hehe

P.S.
You didnt get back to me about when i can come over there and visit, in my private message I sent. Im visiting the US in a few weeks so would appreciate it if you could tell me when it would suit you.

_____________
Ok seriously now. (This is the mature me)
We are essentially just accusing each other of the same behaviour here. We are very alike, a bit too alike actually. Our attempts at debate seem quickly deteriorate into bickering dont they? I can admit this, I hope that you can see it too. It takes two to Tango and we are both as guilty as each other. Reply if you want, say what you want about me, at the end of the day I dont mind what I get called. Eventually the thread will get locked.
This is my last post here and to show that I can be mature I WILL honour my promise. As I'm no hypocrite, you wont get a reply no matter how many cheap shots you throw at me hereafter. If you HAVE to have the last say then go ahead...


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[speedy]

You're so much fun to mess with because I know how you're going to respond before you do. Well, standby to get educated.

You said:

"I know the greeks had a "sport" of fighting in the ancient olympics - which "could" be regarded as boxing. However, you cant really say it was "Boxing" as in the sport of today; it was basically just two guys fighting to the death. "

Now here's the factual truth:

The origins of boxing as a sport goes back to the original Olympic games of centures ago. [in Greek, Pygmahia: pyg + mahi = fist fight] and you are very wrong to assume the contest was to the death.

At the 23rd Olympic Games (668 AD) boxing officially becomes an Olympic sport. Some guy known as Onomastos of Smyrna was the first Olympic champion.

In 616 AD at the 41st Olympic Games, boys boxing was added to the program. The first junior Olympic champion was Filytas from Sivari.

No gloves, leather straps around the wrist were allowed and it also was allowed to hit your opponent when he was down. The contest continued until one knocked the other out or one guy quit.

[likkletree]

BOXINGS s-HIT THESE DAYS....AUDRY HARRISON WON'T WIN JACK... NEVER BEEN THE SAME SINCE NIGEL BENN RETIRED.
NO SPELLING MISTAKES HERE !