kazaa users beware!!!

[kas187]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/music/3021126.stm


kas187

[marvel2020]

Oh Dam, i'm really scared, i'm peeing in my pants, i'm sh*&^^ing myself

F&*k them A$£holes.

Like the rock says....

JUST BRING IT


8)

[kas187]

lol

it is a joke, first they try to scare users with an email or whatever it was and now law suits, i dont think they have anything better to do than fine people $150,000, yea right like im gonna earn that much in my life, can i sell my soul instead.

kas187

[Craig Tucker]

And thats for each copyright violation, so does this mean if your sharing 100 tracks, you'll be in for 15 million. Better get some overtime in kas187

[txpharoah]

They seem to forget most file sharing comes from universities and colleges, and the DHCP ethernet networks are not always tracked. And let's not forget about the proxies. I've seen the stories. It's how I learned about the underhanded ways of anonymous communication. Why can't they?

All I can do is sit back and shake my head. Who do they think they're kidding? And what of those that are large collections in countries that are not member of the Berne Convention or have their own laws to protect them?

RIAA = Real Idiots, Always Annoying

FYI: I don't support piracy, but I also don't support the MPAA or RIAA.

[MachineMan]

Just move the bulk of your downloaded files to a folder Kazaa can't see. Only leave a couple hundred or so files to share. They will only be "attempting" to bust the major "Alledged violators" that share 1000+ files.

[steptoe]

Well, according to kazza, I share about 4500+ files ..........

The snag is, all the 'songs' I can share are at least 25-40 years old, and a VERY limited audience

Psychadelia, and very early garage psych bands from the 60's and 70's

The majority of the bands I share made one record and vanished forever, some only lasted 2-3 years top whack, so my 'audience' is as strange as I am

Basically stuff like :

Stawberry Alarm Clock
Arthur Brown
Cream
Fat Mattress

blah, blah, blah


Rather than ban it, a lot of the bands would be grateful their music is still about to be heard again, instead of never being heard again

I don't share anothing else, movies, porn, 'new' music, nothing

[Gazorgan]

Who syas what I share is valid? Just because the title says it's something doesn't mean your busted. Sorry, but that's the law. "They" have to d/l it and confirm that you have indead violated the law. I can't tell you the number of times I've d/l something and it's turned out to be misnamed....LMFAO.

Remember that if you get a letter, it has to be proved, and the evidence shown in court.

I can't imagine sharing 1000's of current song titles, you would be packeted off your connection. Trust me on this, I accidently once shared my XviD backups, that was 160 GB...about 140 movies and I was average 30-40 connection attempts/second. 1 week later I was still getting 15 connections a second....I had to change IP's That was Gnuttella, but it's the same basic thing as Kazaa.

[mmmbeer]

There's a little program called peer guardian it is freeware and by using a proxy it should prove difficult to find you. Not to mention they can't get blood from stones and until they stop price gouging on older materials I will continue to use the networks.

[Marco33]

I remeber when... we would "Tape" stuff off the radio and listen to those tapes, share them. I don't recall us having the same problem then.

What? They are worried about loosing money. I had hundreds of tapes of stuff I recorded from the radio and never bought the album. They still made money back then.

Maybe if they weren't jacken' use $25 a pop for CD's we would still be buying them.

O' don't get me started...

[mmmbeer]

If you could walk into a cd shop and customize your own cd with the songs YOU like and tha srtisis would still get paid would you shell out the $$$ I know I would. Same thing if they made a p2p network that was a pay service that wasn't outrageously expensive I would be willing to shell out the $$$. But the retailers screw the consumer so this is why p2p exists and every time that the RIAA thinks they can catch all d/lers so easily another more heavily encrypted network springs up. Sorry RIAA you lose

[j1d10t]

The RIAA and MPAA must be full of stupid people. What do they honestly think people are going to be doing on a P2P network, like KazaA? Are they going to be downloading copies of music some garage band has recorded? Why would you download a song from a band you've never heard of, and a song you've never heard? Do they think people are going to be downloading copies of home movies? Why would you want to see someone else's home movies of their family vacations, when you have no idea who the people are? Do they think that the majority of people using these programs/networks are using them only for porn? And even then it would have to be "home made" porn, because if they uploaded copies of videos/pictures that were copyrighted, they'd be breaking copy-right laws. They'd pretty much need to sue everyone using these programs/networks, on the off chance they might be sharing copyrighted material, not just home made porn. The RIAA and MPAA must be full of people that have such a low IQ they couldn't find their own butts with both hands, and a search party

[preacher238]

So is sharing home-recorded TV shows illegal? Just curious!

[LanEvo7]

If you could walk into a cd shop and customize your own cd with the songs YOU like and tha srtisis would still get paid would you shell out the $$$ I know I would. Same thing if they made a p2p network that was a pay service that wasn't outrageously expensive I would be willing to shell out the $$$. But the retailers screw the consumer so this is why p2p exists and every time that the RIAA thinks they can catch all d/lers so easily another more heavily encrypted network springs up. Sorry RIAA you lose

I think Apple has a service like that. You pay to download copyrighted MP3s legally.

[Jukka]

If you could walk into a cd shop and customize your own cd with the songs YOU like and tha srtisis would still get paid would you shell out the $$$ I know I would. Same thing if they made a p2p network that was a pay service that wasn't outrageously expensive I would be willing to shell out the $$$. But the retailers screw the consumer so this is why p2p exists and every time that the RIAA thinks they can catch all d/lers so easily another more heavily encrypted network springs up. Sorry RIAA you lose

You can do this in the UK in some supermarkets. You pick from a list, the machine burns and hey presto you have a valid CD. I think they charge 50p per song (min charge £2) or something.

[Cornucopia]

I'd do this, but only if I could pick from a list of about 80,000 songs. The stuff that most supermarkets/record shops have is too mainstream and miniscule for my tastes.

[skullmunki]

apparently, this only effects people in the US at the mo;

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/music/3022170.stm

and for those who cant be arsed checking the link....

"I live in the UK, but US computer users will be able to access the songs I share on file-swapping networks. Will the RIAA sue me? "

No. The RIAA's UK equivalent, the British Phonographic Industry (BPI), says this is a US action that is affecting only music downloaders in the US because international laws are different. The RIAA cannot take action against people outside the US.

boo hoo

[BJ_M]

http://www.cnn.com/2003/SHOWBIZ/Movies/06/26/film.hulk.copyright.reut/index.html


this is going to be a very costly error on his part .. legal fees alone ..

[Craig Tucker]

I just wish as much effort was put into prosecuting real crimes. You would get less than that for holding up grocery store.

[j1d10t]

You'd probably get less than that for stealing videos (from Blockbuster, Target, Walmart, what ever), and it's basically the same thing that Kerry Gonzalez did... He stole copyrighted material.

[pacmania_2001]

If I lived in the US I would just copy a mp3 file (one in the public domain) over and over again, renaming each one to a current title.

Once you have quite a few, place them on Kazaa and see if the RIAA acts.

[Styro]

preacher238:

Yes. Sharing home-recorded TV shows is illegal unless the copyright owner gives you explicit permission for distribution. Tape that football game or TV show for your own library - ok; share that tape with others (or give them a copy) - illegal.

Fortunately it is rarely enforced.

-- Styro

[Styro]

This was discussed, at length, at Slashdot.org. Follow the link...

http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/06/25/1811255

Four pages of geek ranting.

-- Styro

[TBoneit]

Well, according to kazza, I share about 4500+ files ..........

The snag is, all the 'songs' I can share are at least 25-40 years old, and a VERY limited audience

Psychadelia, and very early garage psych bands from the 60's and 70's

The majority of the bands I share made one record and vanished forever, some only lasted 2-3 years top whack, so my 'audience' is as strange as I am

Basically stuff like :

Stawberry Alarm Clock
Arthur Brown
Cream
Fat Mattress

blah, blah, blah


Rather than ban it, a lot of the bands would be grateful their music is still about to be heard again, instead of never being heard again

I don't share anothing else, movies, porn, 'new' music, nothing

Limited audience??

Incense & Peppermint, Crazy World of Aurthur Brown, All thos hits from Cream.... Only one I don't recall = fat Matress, Wow I must be getting old!

The Nazz

Lets go back to the
Three little fishies (Kay Kyser) Era, Accapella songs because of the musicians strike etc.
and all those others with classic lyrics

And don't even mention Fibber McGee & Molly or The Whistler, Boston Blackie or The Shadow.

OOps drifitng off topic again, damnit!

Cheers

[TBoneit]

If you could walk into a cd shop and customize your own cd with the songs YOU like and tha srtisis would still get paid would you shell out the $$$ I know I would. Same thing if they made a p2p network that was a pay service that wasn't outrageously expensive I would be willing to shell out the $$$. But the retailers screw the consumer so this is why p2p exists and every time that the RIAA thinks they can catch all d/lers so easily another more heavily encrypted network springs up. Sorry RIAA you lose

You can do this in the UK in some supermarkets. You pick from a list, the machine burns and hey presto you have a valid CD. I think they charge 50p per song (min charge £2) or something.

There was a chain (Video stores I think) where you picked your songs and they made a cassette with a custom label & box liner. For so much a song and a minimum fee.

Worked pretty good too.

[TBoneit]

http://www.cnn.com/2003/SHOWBIZ/Movies/06/26/film.hulk.copyright.reut/index.html


this is going to be a very costly error on his part .. legal fees alone ..

The poor shlib probably has nothing to loose anyway. It's more to scare off others in the future.

[musher70]

Talk about opening a can of worms huh?
Ever heard of a media player called"qcd"
Well anyway, if you load a pls file, its like
a radio station stream from "shoutcast"
they started "winamp" way long ago,
set in config to "save streams" let run for
10-12 hours, you have "hundreds" of
high quality mp3's, tyou wont like all
of them but WTF...you dont pay to listen
to the radio anyway....

[mysticgohan17]

I just wish as much effort was put into prosecuting real crimes. You would get less than that for holding up grocery store.

whoa this is a great country, in the future ill tell my kids not to download music, but you can ROB A MOM AND POP SPOT

[ahackhack]

Talk about opening a can of worms huh?
Ever heard of a media player called"qcd"
Well anyway, if you load a pls file, its like
a radio station stream from "shoutcast"
they started "winamp" way long ago,
set in config to "save streams" let run for
10-12 hours, you have "hundreds" of
high quality mp3's, tyou wont like all
of them but WTF...you dont pay to listen
to the radio anyway....

Well, THEY (the infernal and eternal THEY) are trying to change that as well... Sirious radio and XFM charge a monthly subscription fee for thier wonderful, commercial free, high quality (ahem, yeah, for ever I'm sure) radio feeds. Fortunately, they have lost loads of money since thier inception, so hopefully it won't be the "wave of the future", and they will die a quick painful death.



Regarding the Hulk guy. I hope he rots for it. That sort of crap is what costs films money. Let's not forget that it's a good thing films have high grosses.. that's what propogates more film production, and hopefully better films to boot. If a film makes huge bank it encourages investment in the next project, and more movies is a good thing for all of is. Stamp out this stupidity IMHO.

But, then again, the d/l vids are pretty horrid in quality as a rule and it's likely not the real cinema going crowd that wastes their time with this garbage. Certainly none of the upstanding members of this forum (he wasn't a member was he? hehehehe

[tinpaul]

Don't Worry about it, They can't do anything to you, THAT IS YOUR RIGHT.