Using TMPGenc Plus : 23.976 to 25 or 25 to 23.976 fps video

[steptoe]

Hi,

Can anybody list the steps to get TMPGenc Plus to convert just the video from 23.976 FPS (NTSC) to 25 FPS (PAL), and vice versa 25 FPS (PAL) to 23.976 FPS (NTSC)

I've used BeSweet to slow down/speed up the audio track, and tried playing with AVIFrate to alter the frame rate as required, it worked, but right towards the end of the movies I tested, the sync is slighty out, I'd say about 0.5-1 seconds, not much, but enough to be noticable and gets annoying

Is TMPGenc a better options than AVIFrate ???

I normally use TMPGenc to convert from AVI to whatever the source format is with good results, but, as I have quite a few episodes from a series I want to put on DVD, about 6-8 epiosdes per DVD

Snag is, some are 25, some are 23.976 and some are 29.97. Not very helpful, so I'm looking at converting them all to NTSC, from 25 to 23.976, then I will be able to burn it using TMPGEnc DVD Author to create an all NTSC DVD

Just to see what would the result would be, I also used BeSweet to convert 29.97 to 25. Terrible, not recommended, sounds like playing a 45rpm single at 33 1/3, so thats why I'm using 23.976/25 and vice versa



I just wish they listen to us, and bring in that damn switch to enable a PAL/NTSC mixed DVD





Thanks for support


If the end result is good enough, then I'll do that guide that it seems loads of people are looking for, for a software based way to convert PAL to NTSC, NTSC to PAL

[adam]

If you want to convert between 23.976fps and 25fps, and vice versa, in TMPGenc, then simply set the desired output fps on the video tab. But you must also enable the "do not framerate conversion" filter on the video tab. This makes TMPGenc physically slow down the video rather than simply decimate random frames.

You are doing the right thing by converting all, or most files, to 23.976fps. For those files which are 29.97fps, you can leave them as and author them along with your 23.976fps material, or you can inverse telecine them to 23.976fps.

Its possible to author a DVD with both NTSC and PAL content, maybe not with TMPGenc but with others, but the problem is that an NTSC tv simply cannot display a PAL signal. Unless your dvd player can do the conversion or you have an external signal converter, you will at best get a black and white picture.

[Machine514]

I am doing the same thing (PAL 25fps to NTSC 23.976fps), but am having a lot of video problems.

I set up TMPGEnc Plus to read my SVCD file extracted from the bin file. It can not read it (I think because it is PAL). I then demux it in TMPGEnc Plus and TMPGEnc Plus can read it properly.

I then start the wizard, select my demuxed video file, go to advanced options and check the "do not framerate conversion" option. By default the 3:2 pulldown option is selected in the NTSC Film template.

I encode and the last few minutes of the video does not convert. Why? That is why I am posting. I have done it quite a few times (at an hour a piece), with a couple of different files and it does it to them both.

I am in the process of trying a 3rd PAL to NTSC converion and I will post my results. Has anyone ever encoutered this?

-Machine

PS The only thing that I have not tried is rebooting.

[dvdgek]

Hi,

I'm trying to author a 23.976 vcd into a dvd but Tmgpenc DVD author gives me an error that 23.976 is not in compliance with the dvd standard?
The same prob with other author proggies. So I want to change the file into a pal or a ntsc I prefer pal with tmpgenc.
When I encode it into 25 pal there is no problem besides the jerky playback
If I understand it right I have to check the do not framerate conversion and then it wil be allright. I wish we ahd all the same systems not this region and pal/ ntsc crap.

[Donny661]

@dvdgek

you'll have to speed up your audio with besweet otherwise your video and audio will get out of sync.

[dvdgek]

Hmm is this hard to get right?
How does this speeding up work is there a faq or something I can read?
Thanks for the advice.

CYA,

Dvdgek

[sterno]

Hmm is this hard to get right?
How does this speeding up work is there a faq or something I can read?

It's not hard, no. I've done quite a few PAL->NTSC conversions (I like some foreign TV shows and movies, and the sad truth is that a lot of good stuff never makes it over to a US/NTSC format). Install besweet (it's linked in the tools section), and use "-ota( -r 25000 23976 )" as one of your command-line arguments. besweet will adjust the audio length to match a 25fps->24fps conversion. The main limitation is that since it works by altering the frequency of the audio you can't do a sample rate conversion (44.1kHz<->48kHz) at the same time, so if you have to do both it requires two different runs through besweet instead of just one.

As for a guide, you can try this one:
https://www.videohelp.com/forum/userguides/78178.php
I don't use the Besweet GUI because I don't like it, but the general technique described in the guide works just fine on the command line.

[dvdgek]

Hi,

Thanks for the link and advice I will try it today and then I hope I finally can make the dvd. Funny to hear that you miss foreign TV shows.
with me it is the other way around all the good stuff is broadcasted in America and never makes it to at least where I live(holland).
Since I have internet I dl mainly my tv shows form the net and then I noticed how many shows I would have missed if I didn't had a net connection

The movie I'm working on now is a japanese 1966 b&w one that I want to have in my collection. I hardly collect anything european exept some english comedy they are very good at that. Absolutly fabalous is one of those awesome shows. Luckly they have them now on DVD.
It seems that in america they rather do a remake of a succesfull english serie and the British do exactly the same they also tend to do re-makes like english version of who is the boss etc...

Well back to encoding I hope it works out

CYA,

Dvdgek