What's effed up here is the poll and the article and the title have nothing to do with each other in the first post.
As for the article, it is to technical for me to care. Beta was technically superior to VHS also, but where did that get it?
That TWICE article is completeley skewed since it lumps dual +/- and + drives together and separates -R and -RAM as separate. So according to that article, dual drives don't count as -R drives, but they do count as + drives. Sure. (I love that emoticon)
The practical reality is that among the professional community DVD+R might as well not even exist. Also practical is that DVD+R is not quite as compatible with set-top boxes as -R, though both are very good in this regard.
But I love reading these format war posts, I find them very entertaining.
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Hi Spath
Your second post in this forum and that’s to me as well, I am honoured
Blah, ever heard of paranoia ?
Again, read carefully. CAV is not discussed in the article, thus
"from the complete article Mt Rainier is the only feature not
currently in use" is correct.
Also I was able to read
them because my company bought them and signed the NDAs.
But on the other hand you claimed that there are some interesting
documents freely available on Philips' site. So this means that
you found these documents, right ? So why don't you simply post
a link, so that everybody can benefit from them ?
It was introduced later on the market ?
I gave techincal evidences for what
I claim, and I'm waiting for a refutation. You are welcome to post such
evidences of your own opinion.
Defective software/hardware does not mean that the format is bad.
Fragile ? How did you measure +RW fragility exactly ?
Be my guest, and please point me to the "obvious gotchas" of + format.
Spath, I would suggest if you have anything you want to add or argue do it to me in a PM on this forum. If need be we can summarise any conclusion or agreement we might ever come to at the end of this thread for all to see, but I doubt anyone is in the slightest bit interested and to be honest, I don’t blame them one little bit.
(Hi StudeBarc, you still trying to work out why your £35.00 of +VR enabled software has to buffer to the hard-drive first before writing?)
Regards
Philip
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Philbiker's quote
What's effed up here is the poll and the article and the title have nothing to do with each other in the first post.
As for the article, it is to technical for me to care. Beta was technically superior to VHS also, but where did that get it?
That TWICE article is completeley skewed since it lumps dual +/- and + drives together and separates -R and -RAM as separate. So according to that article, dual drives don't count as -R drives, but they do count as + drives. Sure. realmad.gif (I love that emoticon)
The practical reality is that among the professional community DVD+R might as well not even exist. Also practical is that DVD+R is not quite as compatible with set-top boxes as -R, though both are very good in this regard.
But I love reading these format war posts, I find them very entertaining.
or is just plain stupid
that was a problem last year
that is not a problem anymore as better software have come out
i bet when dvd-r was first released
they had the same problem, compatiability
eventually things have gotten better for -r
just as things have gotten better for +r
so u wannabee
do some research before u open your mouth
u probaly heard or seen the statement before from somebody else
and thought u would seem intelligent by bringing it up
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Philip,
You claim that there are free papers showing comparisons between +
and - tracking methods, yet you are unable to post links or even give
their title.
You claim that + format has "obvious gotchas" which (how convenient!)
are also described in some papers you cannot find back and whose you
forgot the title.
You now claim that + format gives 15% jitter more ? This figure is
just absurd, and it only shows that you have no clue about what you're
talking of.
Philip, the basic rule of contradictory discussions is to never
bluff, because if you get caught your credibility is lost. You got
caught three times, so as far as I'm concerned you're not a serious
contradictor to discuss with any more.
bye,
--spath.
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Originally Posted by vance43211
As well as this year (2003).
And most likely next year (2004).
Originally Posted by vance43211
Originally Posted by vance43211
Originally Posted by vance43211
Originally Posted by vance43211
Click here to read a paper from Verbatim comparing the formats, though it's a bit old. It covers the information that DVD+R is better for data, whereas DVD-R is better for video. And no, Verbatim is not baised. They sell media for both formats.I'm not online anymore. Ask BALDRICK, LORDSMURF or SATSTORM for help. PM's are ignored.
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txpharoah
Eat a Di*k (that's one thing u can probaly do good)
i dare u to find a dvd player
that won't play a movie i make
the only machines
that won't play dvds that i burn, with either instant copy (instant cd/ dvd in udf video dvd mode if it's an older player), gear pro 6, nero, cce and yes i even add this to the list, neodvd
won't play -r either as they were too old to recognize either format or they are just too old for anybody to give a damn about
though some would recognize them if u upgrade the filmware
now while i said i've only had 2 years experience on a computer
basically, almost all 2 years have been burning dvds
back when they took 55 years to burn one dvd
u , you probaly showed up 6 months ago on the dvd burning scene
when u and all these so called genuises showed up as ic7, dvd2one and the new quick and easy dvd burning programs came out and made dvd burning a simple process
hence, came all the know it alls, those who are stating their format is better than the other
i forgot more dvd burning sh*t than u will ever know
but stand by what i say
i know enough about computers
i know for a fact any new computer products just introduce to the market
has problems
or it wouldn't be a computer part
also i remember reading some where about early dvd-r problems
i just don't remember or care
i don't have nothing against dvd-r people
shoot i taught a couple of dvd -r people (friends) on how to burn dvds
i do have problems with idiots like u
p.s. with the dvd video (udf 1.05) coming out in full swing (soon all dvd players will be of this format)
compatiblity will soon be a non issue
vance43211 wrote:
so u wannabee
do some research before u open your mouth
No comment. But you can probably see where I'm going with this.
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Originally Posted by vance43211I'm not online anymore. Ask BALDRICK, LORDSMURF or SATSTORM for help. PM's are ignored.
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idiot's quote
Click here to read a paper from Verbatim comparing the formats, though it's a bit old. It covers the information that DVD+R is better for data, whereas DVD-R is better for video. And no, Verbatim is not baised. They sell media for both formats.
as them are people opinions and it is as u say a bit old
(old things don't apply as technology progresses)
opinions
everybody got one
even an a**hole like u
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yeah, everyone needs to simmer down.
if you wanna get in to heated debates that mean something, then talk about affirmative action. you want equality?! then stop using your race as a handicap & wanting special treatment. if you're too stupid or not good enough to do something, then we shouldnt let you do it just because you're a "minority".
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now i apologize
but this seems to happen everytime this stupid debate is brought up
i shouldn't have overreacted to this posts
that being said
get the idiot redneck jeex
who just made a statemate above off this forum
before he really get something started that is way
worse than anything you all have seen before
You are in breach of the forum rules and are being issued with a formal warning.
/ Moderator vitualis
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