How to i get more than 35mins on an svcd?

[Hudson]

Hi, i have downloaded many svcds in .bin form and the quality on them is pretty much dvd quality, no eexageration. Yet these Svcds have 40-47 minutes of video on them but when i try to make them on TMPGenc it says you can only get 35 mins on it, can anyone help. Note that i want a standard svcd type that will workl on all dvd players that support svcds, not kvcd etc.


Hudson out

[Gazorgan]

Sounds like you have it set to CBR and 2250 for the video bitrate. Lower the bitrate (and quality) and you can get more video/disk. I recomend 2-pass VBR, with a minimum of 1000, maximum of 2250, and an average picked to hit a disk size. Typically that will be between 1800 and 2000.

I wouldn't put more than 50 minutes/disk, unless it's letterboxed (with black bars top and bottom). More than that and the quality can degrade quite a bit. You can play with the settings.

You can make an xSVCD by making the maximum bitrate higher. 2500-3000 yields some pretty good results. You should test this on your player first.

[Cecilio]

I suggest not making an svcd try making a CVD believe me you will get better quality, and just aslong as you put 60 minutes or less you still get almost DVD quality this aint no joke. to get 60 minutes on an 80 minute cd you must use audio bitrate of 128 and video bitrate of 1600. if your movie is a dvd and your gonna make it to a cvd then use motion estimate search fast and only 1 pass and you will get great results.

[wulf109]

CVD is low resolution SVCD,the resolution is worse not better. The lower pixel count it uses may retard some artifacting at the lower than standard bitrate most people use.

[Heavensent]

wulf109 said:

CVD is low resolution SVCD,the resolution is worse not better. The lower pixel count it uses may retard some artifacting at the lower than standard bitrate most people use.

you are correct, but what about the other side of things ?

there is more bitrate for each pixel so the picture will look better,
a bit blur, but better in general.

sharpness is not allways wanted, especialy when you intend
to use a low bitrate.

[Cecilio]

hey wulf109 ask anybody in this forum which will get you better results a cvd or svcd. i can guarantee way way more people will say CVD. you will get better results with lower bitrate or with higher. cause if you use such a low bitrate with svcd you will get a lot of pixels cause the fields require more bitrate because of the horizontal resolution.

[adam]

The maximum allowable bitrate of ~2.5mbits is more than enough to support a resolution of 480x480/576 in all but the most demanding scenes. If you use a lower average bitrate, ie: less than 2mbits, than 480x480/576 is probably too high and you would be better off sacrificing some sharpness in exchange for more bits per pixel. Even at this low resolution, very demanding scenes are still going to suffer from a lack of bitrate because 2.5mbits just isn't that much.

So its obvious that neither SVCD nor CVD is better than the other. If you use a high enough bitrate than there is no reason to lower your resolution, but if you use a low enough bitrate it would make more sense to use half-D1 resolution instead. It all depends on what you are doing, and it mostly depends on your subjective preferences. Some people prefer a sharper image even at the expense of more artifacts.

My general rule of thumb is
>2mbits=SVCD
<2mbits=CVD

[vitualis]

Well said by adam...

Although you may get less encoding artifacts at CVD specs compared to SVCD specs at the same bitrate, ultimately, SVCD has a higher framesize and so is sharper. Which looks better will depend on the original material, the bitrate you are using, your own personal preference and what you are viewing the disc on.

Another reason why some people use CVD in preference to SVCD is that the half-D1 framesize is valid for DVD authoring. Thus, if you plan to migrate your discs eventually to a DVD, it makes sense to use CVD type discs in perference to SVCD as no further re-encoding of the video is required.

Regards.

[SatStorm]

CVD is good for VHS/SVHS transfers and also is really good for analogue TV captures. Plus, it is handy for DVD authoring.

SVCD is the best solution for DVD backups to CD - R media.

There are reasons because CVD looks better SVCD on some people eyes.
One of them, is the encoder they use. Use TMPGenc for example and CVD gonna look better SVCD. Use CCE and that's is questionable. Depending your skills and the knowledge of CCE you may make a SVCD look better.

About the sharpness issue, well... On a HDTV (NTSC) or a pixel plus TV (PAL), both gonna look awfull....
On mainstream TVs, depending how much you want to see it, SVCD might look sharper if the source is DVD or a good DVB source (at least 544 X 576)

[busols]

Another reason to choose CVD and not SVCD, is the picture quality issue in general. CVD is always overall better.
- If you are a quality freak, then the CVD format is a better choice than SVCD. CVDs can use the same bitrates as SVCDs but for a lower Horizontal resolution. So, the data shared to each field/frame is more for CVD, than the data shared to each field/frame for SVCD. That is the secret: More data per frame, at the same bitrate, better picture for CVD.
Just for your information, the less horizontal lines ain't noticeable in a average TV of any screen size. Only if you own a HDTV, you might see CVDs a little bit more blurred than a SVCD. You can prevent this, if you use wise a sharpen edge filter during the encoding. With TMPGenc, try values like 8/16/32/64. That sharps the picture, the same way we sharp any picture on our VCRs.
- If you belong to the "more per CD" party, then CVD is also the way to go: With CVD you get SVCD picture quality, with lower bitrates. That means smaller files. And please use the component video out (Y Pb Pr) of your DVD player and connect it to TV component video in to get better picture, it's near DVD quality...

[adam]

busols please refer back to the previous 3 posts. Both formats have their tradeoffs, CVD is not always better quality. More than anything it is subjective, and it is always going to depend on your source material and the bitrate you use. If you have an avg bitrate of say 2.3mbits than I personally think you will gain absolutely nothing by decreasing your resolution. Increased bitrate does you no good if you have already reached the point of diminishing returns for your chosen resolution.

I can tell you first hand that to a discerning eye, the difference in resolution between CVD and SVCD can be noticable on just about any tv. Also, many people have complained of increased aliasing problems with CVD. Again, its completely subjective. Many people, like myself, prefer a sharper image even if it results in increased artifacts. If sharpness is a priority, then more than likely you will notice the resolution difference between CVD and SVCD, I know I do.

Sharpen filters are highly overrated, IMO. Again, this is a very subjective thing as well, but one this that is for sure is that sharpen filters work in a VERY artificial way.

Once again, neither format provides superior quality under all circumstances. It all DEPENDS.

[SatStorm]

Read Adam for example. It is the typical example!

He never liked CVD, he never liked TMPGenc and he never liked VBR.

He use only SVCD (because he found a sharpness difference), he use only CCE SP (because "it shines" on higher framesizes) with avisynth and he prefers -when he can- CBR. And because he use basicly NTSC, for him there are issues with CVD as a standard.
So, for him is SVCD all the way.

Me from the other hand, I use only CVD, only TMPGenc with dvd2avi and I only use VBR for my convertions/encodings. And I'm PAL, it is very rare for me to do a NTSC encoding.
I never show a real difference between CVD and SVCD, when I encode with TMPGenc at any PAL TV set. And I was able to try many of them untill now, 'cause this is my job. This week, I testing Panasonic TX 36PDOD. This is a brand new TV from Panasonic, 36'' with 833 vertical lines (Yes, 833 vertical lines!). It currently costs 9000 euro....

Even with this amazing TV (I can say for sure that it is the winner of EISA for 2003) the sharpness difference between CVD and SVCD is unoticable. You can see it only on certain static plans. From the other hand, on those same static plans, CVD looked less trembled that SVCD. Yes, I'm talking for interlace influance here, 'cause anything except DVD is interlace. Progressive material is and will be for many years really rare for Europe. By the way, interlace ain't the strong point of CCE...
Last february, I tested JVC (1000+ lines) and untill march, I had in office a pixel plus TV from philips. On all TVs, the same results. CVD slighty less sharped on certain scenes but a lot less "trembled" on static screens. CVD gave me a smooth shoft picture SVCD don't have, very pleased on the eye of the mainstream viewer. And as I said before, CVD looks always overall better SVCD.
I also tested a lot 1/2 D1 CCIR DVD stuff. When I use 352 X 576 with an average bitrate of 3000kb/s the picture is perfect at any situation. But this is another subject.

If you want to see difference between CVD and SVCD then you have to:
- Use CCE with Avisynth in a very advance way.
- Use only Progressive material. Or reconstuct them to progressive before encoding them
- You source be a DVD or a - state of the art - DVB transmission (rear...)
- Your DVD standalone do a decent support on SVCD. Not just support SVCD, do a good D/A convert before lead the signal to Video out. There are stuff there, in this step, make huge difference on the final quality..
- Have a good TV. What that means? The screen must be a good quality CRT (you can have big screen for example, but not so good CRT screen the same time) or a Plasma TV or a good HDTV. With LCD screens, you won't see a difference eather.
If you don't have those things, then you won't see a difference. Except if you want really hard to see a difference....

Anyway, the best answer is to test yourself SVCD and CVD and prefer the best solution for you. I can easy point you that CVD is better and Adam that SVCD is better, but who has right? Well it's up to you to judge! Do it and don't listen to anyone!

[adam]

Not sure where you got those assumptions from Satstorm.

Like I said, if I can get an avg bitrate of higher than 2mbits than I go with SVCD but if my avg is less than 2mbits than I use CVD. In that instance the added sharpness of SVCD is outweighed by the increased bits per pixel that I get with CVD, to my eyes.

I actually haven't made a CVD or a SVCD in quite a while since I got my dvd burner, but about 1/3 of my cd based movie collection is VCD, another 1/3 is CVD and the last 1/3 SVCD.

Also, I consider myself very non-discriminating when it comes to encoders. I use them all. Its true TMPGenc's bugs have driven me further and further away but I still use TMPGenc on many sources. In addition, I frequently use Procoder, and Panasonic mpeg1 encoder.

Actually the only time I ever use CBR is with VCD. I definitely don't dislike VBR.

Point taken though SatStorm. This is all very subjective.

[Gazorgan]

I thought I answered *Hudsons original question: Use VBR instead of CBR :P

Upper 2250, lower 300 and average to hit the size you need. 192k Audio helps over 224.

[kwag]

i want a standard svcd type that will workl on all dvd players that support svcds, not kvcd etc.

Well then why would you settle for a standard 40 minutes SVCD, or even an hour
Here, this will play on ANY SVCD compatible player
http://www.kvcd.net/kpax-skvcd-480x480.m2v
That was done with ToK, with a calculated CQ of 64.14 and a resolution of 480x480 with 3:2 pulldown using KVCDs Q. Matrix, and targeted to fit on one CD-R just like you see it. The result is a 100% compliant SVCD MPEG-2 file.
BTW, K-Pax is 2 hours long

Enjoy!,
-kwag

[Cecilio]

Damn homey shit kwag damn your good. if thats how 2 hours of video on only 1 cd-r looks your the king. ive been using Kvcd for Downloaded divx or xvid films. but im doing your ULBR template the one that says 360 minutes. ok and then i higher the Constant Quality all the way to 100 and leave the FPS at 23.97 and i get the exact same size as the original divx. now it looks good, but the only reason why i dont try using your higher reselution templates to fit 2 hours on a cd-r is because i know i cant get great quality. i mean im great to this whole encoding thing all i need is bitrate. this is like if im running and running i need water or something to keep going and the more water i get the more i go. now with you you get very little amount of water and still go the extra mile. so WOW

[kwag]

Hi Cecilio,

Just make sure you use the current motion adaptive script for AviSynyh 2.52: http://www.kvcd.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3483
I never do SVCDs, for obvious quality reasons compared to KVCDx3. But if someone wants 100% SVCD compatibility, just like KDVDs, hell just set ToK and use that resolution or modify the SKVCD template and change it to 480x480(576). That's all it takes

-kwag

[Cecilio]

well thanks Kwag i just downloaded ToK and all the extras. im not sooo familiar with avisynth, but what am i supposed to do with this

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#
LoadPlugin("C:\Filters25\MPEG2Dec3.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\Filters25\GripFit_YV12.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\Filters25\STMedianFilter.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\Filters25\asharp.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\Filters25\undot.dll")
#
####

## Defined Variables and Constants ##
#
MaxTreshold = 1.50
scd_trigger = 30 # Scene change trigger value.
nf = 0 # Current frame.
#
####

## Main section and static filters ###
#
Mpeg2Source("Your_D2V_Source_Here")
#
undot()
Limiter()
asharp(2, 4)
GripCrop(Your_GripCrop_Parameters_Here)
GripSize(resizer="BicubicResize")
STMedianFilter(8, 32, 0, 0 )
MergeChroma(blur(MaxTreshold))
MergeLuma(blur(0.2))
#
#

## Dynamic Linear Adaptive Filtering and Scene Change Detection ##
#
# ( Portions from AviSynth's manual ) - This will apply temporalsoften to
# very static scenes, and apply variable blur on moving scenes.
# We also assign a variable - and this is why a line break is inserted:

ScriptClip("nf = YDifferenceToNext()"+chr(13)+ "nf > 2.5 ? asharp( -(fmin((nf/30), 1)), 0 ) : \
TemporalSoften(2,7,7,3,2) ")

#
# Scene change detection - If a scene change is detected, we
# blur heavily. This affects the scene before and the one after the
# scene change, thus providing a softer transition for the encoder instead
# of a sharp "spike".

conditionalfilter( last, asharp(-2,0), last, "nf", ">", "scd_trigger" )

#
#
#

GripBorders()
#LetterBox( Your_Values_Here ) # Depends on situation. Use MovieStacker!
Limiter()

#
#
## Functions ###

function fmin(float f1, float f2) {
return (f1<f2) ? f1 : f2
}

#
####

sorry im just new to avisynth it hasnt been necesary for me to learn this.

[kwag]

You have some reading to do
http://www.angelfire.com/film/rendalunit/kvcd/KVCDsmallguide.html
Or:
http://www.kvcd.net/guides/razorblade2000/index_en.html
And if you speak German, Italian or Spanish, then see "Articles" on the right panel here: http://www.kvcd.net/e107/article.php

-kwag

[Cecilio]

well thanks again you seem to be very very helpful and thanks again.

[Cecilio]

Well Kwag ive been reading Razorblades KVCD Guide and yea i understand almost everything and ive tried it 3 times and i tried to feed the avs script to Tok and it would say error. i also tried playing it in windows media player and it said error and it would say the error. the first one i did i had several errors then the second time it decreased not the third time i think i might only be missing a little bit and thats it but i dont know. oh and everytime i open up Movie Stacer i get this warning Avisynth 2.5.2 is detected. You can use it, but Moviestacker only supports 2.0x versions abort or ignore. is this normal

look this is the problem i have now

[buttsy00]

Cecilio,

Can you please tell me exactly what settings to use in TMPG for encoding to CVD to get 60 minutes on 1 cd.

I am capturing from VHS at 352 x 576 YUY2 using HuffyUV 2.11.

I am currently using "puertorican138's 40 minute CVD Template (PAL)" in TMPG to convert.

I would love to know how to get 60 minutes without losing too much video quality.

[Cecilio]

sure just hold on let me look at my settings, and ill get back to you in a short while.

[Cecilio]

Cecilio,

Can you please tell me exactly what settings to use in TMPG for encoding to CVD to get 60 minutes on 1 cd.

I am capturing from VHS at 352 x 576 YUY2 using HuffyUV 2.11.

I am currently using "puertorican138's 40 minute CVD Template (PAL)" in TMPG to convert.

I would love to know how to get 60 minutes without losing too much video quality.

well ok im done making the template, ill just save it as a .mcf and well you want me to send it to your email or whatever you want its coo. i used the KVCD Quantize Matrix and i changed several settings, so i will save it and send it to you. well i have 2 templates that i just made. one was CBR and the other was CQ. but you wanted them in pal am i correct cause thats what i made them. if you want NTSC ill just change a few things and were set to go.

[Cecilio]

this is the Constant Bitrate .mcf


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just select all of it and then put ctrl+C and then open note pad and then put ctrl+V. and then put file save as and then put this CBR 60 minute CVD template.mcf and then under that put save as all file types.

[Cecilio]

now heres the other one with CQ


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GOP_B_FrameCount = 2
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GOP_I_FrameCount = 1
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GOP_B_FrameCount = 2
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MPEG.Video.DisplayHeight = 0
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MPEG.Audio.StreamType_ReadOnly = False
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MPEG.Audio.SamplingFrequency_ReadOnly = False
MPEG.Audio.ChannelMode = 2
MPEG.Audio.ChannelMode_ReadOnly = False
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MPEG.Audio.BitRate_ReadOnly = False
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MPEG.Audio.CalcCRC_ReadOnly = False
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MPEG.Audio.CopyrightFlag = False
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MPEG.Audio.PrivateFlag = False
MPEG.Audio.PrivateFlag_ReadOnly = False
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MPEG.System.StreamType_ReadOnly = False
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[thayne]

CVD is low resolution SVCD,the resolution is worse not better. The lower pixel count it uses may retard some artifacting at the lower than standard bitrate most people use.

The lower resolution allows you to encode at a higher bitrate. CVD's look a little soft to me compared to the same SVCD. I use CVD resolution only on recording on my PVR card programs that I plan on burning to a DVDRW to watch then delete. Programs that I want to keep I stick with SVCD and burn them to a CDR

[buttsy00]

Thanks Cecilio!!!

So what is the difference between CBR and CQ???

Which one gives better picture quality???

What one do you normally use?

Is one of them better for say movies and the other for say sport or something like that?

Sorry for being ignorant!!

[Cecilio]

Thanks Cecilio!!!

So what is the difference between CBR and CQ???

Which one gives better picture quality???

What one do you normally use?

well the differecne is that constant bitrate only uses the same bitrate through out the whole movie. so like if there are 20 minutes out of a 1 hour and 30 minutes movie that only require 1000 kbs well out of those 20 minutes it will use 1000 on those and use the extra bitrate left on higher action scenes. its kinda like VBR but way faster. i think CQ looks better. sorry if i cant explain that good.

[Cecilio]

oh and have you tried the templates, i forgot to change one thing. where it says audio its 44100 khz. set it to 48000 so it will also be almost 100 % dvd compatible. you know incasse you get a dvd burner and then you wanna just drag and drop the files into your authoring program.