Finally !! A ((SUREFIRE)) WAY TO PUT MULTIPLE VCD'S ON A DVD

[ChrissyBoy]

how does the player recognize the difference between a CD ISO and a DVD ISO

DVD isos & CDR isos are like chalk & cheese to a dvd player. Completly different packet structures and numerous other differences.

The field in the players DB should be changes to two fields IMHO. MPG ISO(CDR) & MPG ISO(DVDR).

I suspect that historically when CDR media was what most people had, users just figured the question refered to CDR only. Nowadays that isn't the case. But its too late now

[Dragonsf]

Are these differences really visible to the player's DVD chip or only to the loader? When I look at some DVD chip specs, all those low level structure handling is done inside the DVD drive/loader electronic and is transparent to the chip itself.I.e if the loader supports such thing as DVD ISO, the chip will be fed with right data.If this interpretation has some truth, then a DVD ISO with mp3s should be handled the same as a DVD ISO with mpegs (if the player can play such mpegs at all).Or do you imply, that only a few players can play mp3s on DVDR ISO?
Maybe some people with such a player, which supports (mpegs on CDR) this feature, should recheck with DVDR.Before you haven't tried, you can't be sure.

[BonnieW88]

I don't know what happened. I went through the whole process...it went well, I thought. Then when I was preparing menus, I tried to create thumbnails and found that all ten episodes were the same episode, even though the file names were different. Can you tell me what went wrong?

[napski]

Hi:

Thanks for your previous replies to my problem.

I went throught the whole process and everything seems to be ok, except now I get the following error when I try to load the files on TMPGE Authoring program:

* A video sequence header is necessary for every GOP in a standard DVD. The video sequence header is incorrect."

This happened in "Spruce Up" too. I then tried Ulead Movie Factory 2 and they loaded up perfectly, but after the conversion the audio was out of sync about half way through on every one. So that's out.

The strange thing is they work perfectly in PowerDVD.

So now I have about 21 movie files that I have converted with this guide and I don't know where to go next. (they are about 15 min. a piece)

Any help would greatly be appreciated. Thanks!

[LanEvo7]

I've found a less complicated way that works well for me. It does require reencoding though.

1. Encode your MPEG1 file to MPEG 2 with the same resolution and change the sound to 48khz.
2. Load Ulead DVD Movie Factory 2 or TMPGEnc DVD Author
3. Load the converted files
4. Go through any menu editing etc...
5. Burn away.....................

[yf2001usa]

reencoding isn't the way for me. It will loose quality and it takes to long to do it.

my advice just try and make the dvd but before burn check it with powerdvd or windvd if the audio is sync if not reencode the audio that isn't sync and create the dvd again.

[ChazMan]

Can I use SVCD's with this guide?

[Gingerbread]

So, I once had 3 very good films, then decided to follow this guide, and WOW 3 very good films which become useless files with about 14kb of size? Now, why would that of happened?

[BonnieW88]

I tried again and used the TMPenc wizard this time and it worked well doing only 3 episodes as a test. I could easily have gotten 10 or 11. I did a menu and burned the DVD. While viewing the completed project, halfway through the second episode, the sound went off sync. Halfway through the third episode, the sound went out altogether. I tried it using only Ulead Movie Factory, saving MPEG1 as Half DVD, and got 5 episodes (235 minutes) of decent quality with no sound problems on one disk.

[LisaB]

A Few Comments:

1. If you're going to go all through all the trouble of re-encoding, then you may as well re-encode the audio to the right frequency the first time around. After loading the VCD template, load the unlock template, then you can go in and change the audio frequency to 48K. Newer editions of TMPGEnc have very good quality, and if you don't think so, you could always specify an external transcoder, like SCMPX, in TMPGEnc's environmental settings, which, by the way is probably what SVCD2DVDMPG and/or BeSweet uses in the first place. You just don't get any benefit from re-encoding the audio in TMPGEnc and then re-re-encoding it in SVCD2DVDMPG. And if you do the transcode in TMPGEnc, you don't need SVCD2DVDMPG at all....your resulting VCD's will be DVD compliant.

2. If you insist on using SVCD2DVDMPG, at least use elementary stream output...this will save time.

[BonnieW88]

I found a way to get 10 episodes of good quality with no sound problems using only Ulead Movie Factory. I authored 5 episodes and saved the project. Then I opened the project and there was room on the DVD for another 5 episodes plus menu. I authored and burned and it worked great. Ten episodes, over 7 hours of video on one DVD. My settings were half DVD, 4000, stereo, and 48. Of course, this worked only on the video I captured myself...if I tried using a downloaded MPEG, there were sync problems.

[FuzzBuzz]

ok this works fine, buit when i want to downsize my movie, with dvd2one, it doesnt do it :/

i dont really want 2 use instant copy cause it takes 2 long

[FuzzBuzz]

ok, instant copy doesnt work even

i have to dvd2one twice then dvd shrink, but the video is fucked and pauses every couple seconds.

anyon know of a better way of downsizing a movie made with this?

[Beev]

This might sound like a stupid question, but what is the format at the end of this? VCD or DVD?

Thanks!

Yours,
Beev

[Dragonsf]

AFAIK it's UDF (looks like a DVD to the player)

[berhack]

is there a guide similar to this but starting with MPEG2's (SVCDs)?

[tito13kfm]

Rip mpg's with VCDGear
Author using TMPG DVD Author.
simple, and works for me.

[edsmith77]

DVDMizer,
Good amount of work you have invested in a very detailed explanation.

It was just what I originally wanted to do.

Being the experimenter, I tried a variant process (also mentioned by tito13kfm) My problem is that I have many (x)(s)vcds that span 2 or more disks and I wanted to put them (as many as possible) onto DVDs.

My process was to copy the dat files from each of the disks, use tmpgenc to merge them together and add them to dvdauthor as individual tracks and create the dvd disk file. I did not change the mpeg1 files is any way. I did not resample the audio from 44.1 to 48. I did not even rename the dat files to mpg.

I guess I was lucky because I now have a dvd with three (3) vcds on it, each selectable by a menu choice, all are of the exact same quality I had as vcd and there were no audio sync problems at all.
I suppose my luck is that my desktop player is not very discriminating over dvd standards. This dvd will probably only work in my player and not someone elses. But then again, I only watch them at home, anyway.

Thanks for the detailed process on how to do it correctly.

Ed

[larsc]

I know this is waking the dead, but I just read this thread and started experimenting. I've been using SVCD2DVD for automagical compliancy conversion, and Moviefactory for authoring, unaware of that Moviefactory is utter crap.

Why?, you may ask.

Because everything I've made has been out of sync, and I blame MF, because I tested TMPGEnc DVDAuthor and it came out 100% perfect (both pure SVCD2DVD converted and TMPGEnc reencoded VCDs).

I'm a little pissed right now.

Anyway, I really don't like DVDAuthors menus or UI, so I'm looking for a authoring proggie that looks like UMF and produces simple and purty menus, but doesn't suck as much?

[Henki]

This is supposed to be a surefire way, but I can't get it to work for me. I've think i've gone though the methode 100 times now and i've still got synk prob. I really can't understand what i am doing wrong.

Are there any options in tmpgenc that is known to make this happen?

[Russell_hq]

I have a different way of doing this, all it requires is to re-encode the audio track of the mpeg. This works best on TV episodes that loose sync when you demultiplex then remultiplex them without doing any other operations.

Software used.
Virtualdub for VCD(mpeg)
Virtualdubmod SVCD(mpeg2)
Goldwave
any multiplex/demultiplex software
any audio encoding software

Open MPEG in virtualdub/virtualdubmod (whichever depending on mpeg)
Press Ctrl+R

Virtualdub will bring up a framerate conversion window. Note the number to the right of where is says "Change so video and audio durations match", it will be different from the framerate the mpeg is supposed to be, eg 30.005(or whatever number is shown) instead of 29.970 for NTSC video.

Next save the audio as an uncompressed wav file. So choose file->Save WAV. let it virtualdub uncompress and save, you will need alot of space.

Now get a program called goldwave www.goldwave.com and open the wav file you just created.

Next you need to do a sum. Take the framerate of the mpeg and divide it by the number that you get from virtualdub then multiply by 100, in this case its (29.970/30.005)*100. Write down the result, again for this example it would be 99.883.

In goldwave click on the little clock icon for Time Warp, under where is says "Specify new relative change or length", for Change % type in the result of our sum.

Next click ok and Goldwave will do its magic. Once it is finished you will have to re-encode the wav file to an mpeg2 audio file with whatever software you want.

Next demultiplex the original mpeg video stream (we dont need the audio part) and then re-mux the new mp2 audio file with mpeg video stream from the original video. You should now have an mpeg that is in sync and you can do what ever you want to it.

Note, if you want to go from 44100Hz to 48000Hz, you can do this in goldwave also.

Good luck

[ams30gts]

so whats happening here is that the video is getting re-encoded right?

as in the sure fire way

[tranfenec]

Guys and Girls,

You should take a look at this nifty program (DVDLAB PRO)
It is currently in Beta.

You can just drag and drop your SVCD / VCD file in and the program.
Will Demux the mpg file and convert the audio stream on the fly.

Compile the thing and no audio sync problems.....!

[Roderz]

Seems a bit longwinded,
I just throw the mpegs into TDA and let it convert the audio for me, no probs to date
Got 12 ep of men behaving badly on 1 dvdr encoded at cvd

BTW if your encoding with TMPGEnc to start with why not unlock it and do audio @ 48K in the first place

[nmshadey]

Hey guys, I have tried using this method, but when it comes to loading the Mpeg file into TMPGEnc, the program just crashes. I have done some reason and i found a guide that said to use MPEG Tools within tmpg to dump the file in a raw SVCD format, however this did not work for me. Any ideas anyone ?

Thanks in advance.


-Shadey

[jimmalenko]

There are only two changes that need to be made to VCD-compliant MPEGs:

1. Upsample audio from 44.1KHz to 48Khz
2. Set GOP lengths to 15 for PAL or 18 for NTSC.

As mentioned, TMPGEnc DVD Author can upsample on the fly.

[glr190]

Sorry if this is a dumb question, but is SVCD2DVDMPG the same as SVCD2DVDMPG+? I cant find SVCD2DVDMPG+ anywhere and the link provided is dead. Thanks.

[jimmalenko]

Sorry if this is a dumb question, but is SVCD2DVDMPG the same as SVCD2DVDMPG+? I cant find SVCD2DVDMPG+ anywhere and the link provided is dead. Thanks.

Since this thread is nearly two years old, I guess that's always a possibility

Try http://www.svcd2dvd.com/downloads.aspx#SVCD2DVDMPG .

[Noahtuck]

Sorry if this is a dumb question, but is SVCD2DVDMPG the same as SVCD2DVDMPG+? I cant find SVCD2DVDMPG+ anywhere and the link provided is dead. Thanks.

Since this thread is nearly two years old, I guess that's always a possibility

Try http://www.svcd2dvd.com/downloads.aspx#SVCD2DVDMPG .

Better break out that calander bud..... :P
By my count it's been over 3 years since this thread was started, so it's actually 3 years old, but 2 since it was last posted to
I noticed that earlier when this thread was resurrected 8)

[jimmalenko]

" ... since last bump ..." of course