How many DVD players can handle Non-Compliant audio (SVCD at

[yukoncornel]

I am thinking about making my svcd's without converting the audio from 48khz to 44khz. This will save a bit of time as well as avoid any degradation of the audio quality. My question is, are there many standalone DVD players out there that will have trouble playing a non-compliant SVCD at 48khz audio? Or are most newer DVD players able to do this nowadays? I have tested an SVCD I made on my Pioneer DV-525 and also my portable Pioneer PDV-LC10 and neither one have any problems with the 48khz. My dilema is that I would like to make some SVCD's for my son, but he has a Cheese-o-tron type player that I suspect may have problems with the 48khz, but then again who knows.

What programs are best for converting 48khz to 44khz? How does DVD2AVI rate in it's conversion quality, and what setting (low,mid,high,ultrahigh) would be recommneded??

I know this is asking a lot of questions. Any feedback would be appreciated. Thanks.

<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: yukoncornel on 2001-09-21 21:44:16 ]</font>

[The_Flash]

I use to convert to 44kHz as well, and now I no longer bother. Pretty much everyone who has borrowed my discs has been able to play them w/o a problem. Only complaint I've had was that sometimes if you fast forward the audio goes out of sync, but this doesn't happen to me on my Apex 800.

If you do decide to convert, I'd just go with DVD2AVI's downsampling on high (or ultra-high if you're anal like me). DVD2AVI's algo's are as good as any other programs now and if you decide to chop credits or something you won't have to deal with editing the .wav later.

[Vejita-sama]

The current recommendation on the DVD2SVCD forum at doom9.org is to save time and skip it. I've never had any trouble with 48k audio. However, some old PC soundcards can't handle it.

[Shifthrow]

I also just keep the audio at 48k, my JVC 523 has no problem with it either.

[forlotto]

thasright APEX is the shit and error free too. So get you a kick ass apex for the lowest price 99 bucks got to http://www.bestbuy.com

[yukoncornel]

Thanks everybody, I appreciate the responses. The consensus seems to be... leave it at 48khz. I just used ssrc.exe and toolame as external converter/encoder with tmpgenc last night and it came out great, but took an extra 90 minutes to do the 44khz downsampling. Not a huge deal I suppose.

[Freshman]

In my experience it's TMPGEnc's own downsampling that makes the audio sound harsh, not the encoding itself. As long as I use SSRC for resampling, I can't notice any obvious difference between using toolame and simply letting TMPGEnc do the encoding.

On the other hand, using toolame might even save you some of the total encoding time, because TMPGEnc only has to do the video encoding whereas the already encoded audio only needs to be muxed. It might be worth testing both options.

BTW, unlike most other posters here I don't see why you would want to create non-compliant VCDs when staying compliant while maintaining high audio quality by using SSRC is so easy.

Freshman