I think I Saw Better Quality than The Original (dvd2dvdr)

[strangezero]

Hi to all.... Please excuse my poor english.

This may seem strange to some and stupid to others so let me start by saying that what i will say is what I saw... in my KV-32FQ80 sony tv and my 17" Sony pc monitor.
I am burning movies and reencoding etc etc for at least 2 years.


For the first time I reencoded two movies using dvd2dvdr 1.4.6 with 5 pass VBR (!!!!!!) when i ussualy use 2 pass (as default). The first movie was the MATRIX R2 and the other was THE GAME R2. Matrix was about 6.3 GB and the Game was about 7.3GB.

When everything was over (10 hours each movie) with dvd2dvdr i compared the originals with the copies and in all scenes the copies were BETTER!!!!!!!

In the dark scenes of THE GAME (in my pc monitor) the original was a little bit (hard to tell) flickering and the copy wasn't!!! In many scenes of the original MATRIX & GAME i noticed some pixelation (tv and monitor) but in the copies there were GONE!!!!!!!!!!!

Anybody had experienced something like this??????

[macleod]

possibly there was a setting for flicker control in DVD2DVDR.

[strangezero]

ok....

Is it possible that the cce did a better job in (re) encoding the movie and correcting possible faults?

[baker]

You know I have had this said to me many times on different encodes. It all boils down to one thing, CCE.

It does come out worse then the original, its just that different people see can spot different problems more easily.

Baker

[dc91gt]

you can't make a dime out of a nickel.

-d

[txpharoah]

Yeah, uh huh.
And I "taut I taw a putty tat"!
But I didn't.

You can believe anything if you want to.
And yes, some people can just see certain errors more.
That's probably why I always go against ADAM on transcodes.
He sees an error that I don't readily notice.

[adam]

If anything flickering sounds more like a mastering or an authoring problem than a "quality" issue. Some DVDs are hybrid, meaning either that they are a mixture of progressive and interlaced material, or the frames are tagged as fields even though the material is actually progressive. Don't ask me why some studios tag the frames as interlaced when they are in fact progressive, but it happens fairly often. Two such DVDs I can think of off the top of my head are Signs and Gladiator. Anyway, not all decoders can properly play these back, and flickering is a very common result. By re-encoding you have not made this particular aspect of the movie higher quality, you have just corrected the mistake.

As far as perceived higher quality after re-encoding, I'm sure this is just because your eyes prefer a softer image. By re-encoding your movie you are literally throwing out data, that is the job of any encoder. Basically, you are removing the fine details in the picture. Remember, the quality of your playback is only as good as the quality of your decoder, so by decoding a softer image, you have taken a substantial burden off of your decoder.

Bottom line is that if you think it looks better than the original than that is great, you've obviously found the backup method that suits you best. Its a real testament to the quality of CCE when it can produce a re-encode that is so close in quality to the original, than someone can actually prefer it.