VCDEasy creating massive images

[legionpc]

I loaded a 790MB SVCD file into it, and a 99KB MPEG-still in. I created chapters/entry points, then generated the image.

The output is 910MB ... Why? I have less than 800MB of files there, and surely the entry point information doesn't use some 120MB?

As such, Nero refuses to burn the image, = me no happy :P

What can I do?

[vitualis]

This is because of "autopadding". You need to remultiplex your MPEG file with TMPGEnc and it to MPEG-2 SVCD.

Regards.

[corob4]

i had this problem before as well, and the above anwser worked well for svcd but not vcd on my machine.
i have fixed this problem for vcd/svcd by checking the autopadding button under vbr settings and setting the min at least 300 during encoding. i tried many diffrent settings etc.. and have found this to (in my case) stop this from happening again using vcdeasy.
hope that helps

[vitualis]

If you are making VCDs with non-standard clips (i.e., XVCDs), make sure that you mux your MPEG with TMPGEnc on the MPEG-1 Video-CD (non-standard) setting.

Regards.

[corob4]

did and for what ever reason it wouldnt work, i have solve the problem as above so i hope not to have to repeat the trial and error as before, sometime in the future
i found as well only with vcd that the audio would cut out for big portions, again only on vcd svcd it works just fine?
i have no idea why? since i usally encode to svcd it doesnt come up very often.
have tried the xvcd but i cant get the bitrate to go much higher than the 1150 got one to go to 1250 average but still no vast improvemnet, reading more it seems xvcd is to increase the length of video as i first thought the higher bit rates would or should increase the quality, but so far have found this to be not true in my cases
i do vbr and have now read that dont work to well under vcd, i have to take a stabe at cq and cq_vbr and see if that works better
i think my premise is false about increase quality and filling up a disk, it seems just a waste to have 300 mb unused in the vcd format
i know my player will play increased bitrate files norcent-dp300 has played everything i can shove in it best purchase i have made, now have convinced 4 other family members to purchase the same one

[vitualis]

did and for what ever reason it wouldnt work, i have solve the problem as above so i hope not to have to repeat the trial and error as before, sometime in the future
i found as well only with vcd that the audio would cut out for big portions, again only on vcd svcd it works just fine?
i have no idea why? since i usally encode to svcd it doesnt come up very often.

Don't know why. Your MPEG is probably screwy in some way. Most people don't have problems if they do it above method.

have tried the xvcd but i cant get the bitrate to go much higher than the 1150 got one to go to 1250 average but still no vast improvemnet, reading more it seems xvcd is to increase the length of video as i first thought the higher bit rates would or should increase the quality, but so far have found this to be not true in my cases
i do vbr and have now read that dont work to well under vcd, i have to take a stabe at cq and cq_vbr and see if that works better

I suggest you experiment more. Increasing the bitrate can greatly improve the video quality, especially if you also increase the framesize (though that decreases the compatibility of your discs).

XVCD can be anything you want it to be. You can make a low bitrate XVCD to increase playing time or a high bitrate XVCD to increase the quality.

Are you actually adjusting the bitrates properly? It is trivial to arbitrarily set the bitrate of any MPEG encoding to whatever you want it to be. Your statement of "got one to go to 1250 average but still no vast improvemnet, " seems to imply to me that you are not manually setting the bitrate.

Making an XVCD with an average bitrate of 1250 kbit/s is obviously not going to have a huge difference over standard 1150 kbit/s encoding. Try making one at 2000 kbit/s average. The difference will be startling.

Regards.

[RabidDog]

what sort of specs would you be using with 2000 kb avg ? are you still talking about mpeg1 @ 352x288 or better resolutions?

[vitualis]

Either way, you will see a stark difference. For example, VBR 0-2000-2500 at 352x240/288 will yield an MPEG clip with essentially no blocking at all and very clear images.

If you bump up the framesize to something reasonable (e.g., 352x480/576) you will get sharper images.

Regards.

[corob4]

I suggest you experiment more. Increasing the bitrate can greatly improve the video quality, especially if you also increase the framesize (though that decreases the compatibility of your discs).

XVCD can be anything you want it to be. You can make a low bitrate XVCD to increase playing time or a high bitrate XVCD to increase the quality.

Are you actually adjusting the bitrates properly? It is trivial to arbitrarily set the bitrate of any MPEG encoding to whatever you want it to be. Your statement of "got one to go to 1250 average but still no vast improvemnet, " seems to imply to me that you are not manually setting the bitrate.

Making an XVCD with an average bitrate of 1250 kbit/s is obviously not going to have a huge difference over standard 1150 kbit/s encoding. Try making one at 2000 kbit/s average. The difference will be startling.

Regards.

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that was kind of my point, i thought i did ajust the bitrate properly!
i used http://www.tomzavodny.cz/program/bitcalc/index_en.php
this bitrate calculator to deturmine my max/avg/min
this gave me a average of 2069 which i input into tmpg under 2pass settings, max of 2700 , and min of 300
what i got out was a 519 mb xvcd file that had a average bitrate of 1250
so i don;t know what went wrong
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i am going to try cq etc.. and see if i can get better results,
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and i understand about the demultiplex but again i have only had success under the above situation. i guess its just my comp or program, as i have used many diffrent mpeg streams and had the same results
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any way its a mute point as i have made a correction in encodeing and in authoring to fix this another way.

[vitualis]

that was kind of my point, i thought i did ajust the bitrate properly!
i used http://www.tomzavodny.cz/program/bitcalc/index_en.php
this bitrate calculator to deturmine my max/avg/min
this gave me a average of 2069 which i input into tmpg under 2pass settings, max of 2700 , and min of 300
what i got out was a 519 mb xvcd file that had a average bitrate of 1250
so i don;t know what went wrong

Something must have gone wrong. TMPGEnc has never done that to me and if you manually set the bitrate, it is mostly accurate. You did set the stream type to MPEG-1 Video-CD (non-standard) I hope?

Regards.

[corob4]

going to retry on tue when i get back. thanks for the intrest and input, i apreciate it
i give it one more go and see how it comes out