Need help with TMPGenc !!!!!!!

[ya_jai]

I ripped CASTAWAY in VCD format but still can see a lot of blockiness in dark scenes. Have anyone sucessed ripping CASTAWAY with clear picture and only in "VCD"?? or Can anyone give me a setting in TMPGenc to handle this dilemma?
My settings that dont work
1. VCD, CBR=1650
2. seVCD, CQ=100
3. seVCD, CQ_VBR=1950

BTW I wanna know nothing about SVCD setting because I wanna be able to fit the whole movie in two cds. Thank in advance

[sunmiztres]

Well there are a few filters that might help with the blockines.I have used these filters a couple of times and really didn't see to much of a difference. You had said you want this movie on 2 cd's. If you want quality then you will probably need 3 cd's because this movie is kinda long. You can do xvcd and up the bit rate but then of course you need 3 cd's. You could try frameserving through virtualdub and using the filters.

[ya_jai]

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What kind of filters are you talking about? Can you give me some more details?

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If you want quality then you will probably need 3 cd's because this movie is kinda long. You can do xvcd and up the bit rate but then of course you need 3 cd's.
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If I decided to use 3 CDs I would go with SVCD becasue the res. 352x480 or 480x480 will gain more quality of picture, but I don't need that because the movie only 130 some minutes. I believe that this can be done by changing some setting in TMPGenc. Anyway if noone can help me, I think I have to live with whatever I got, huh?
Btw if you can see I've already tried with XVCD CRB 1650 or even CQ_VBR 1950 bitrate but it doesn't help that much.

[ralfbeckers]

Well, when you want to make a standard 2.0 VCD that plays on all VCD capable machines, then you will have to go with what the original VCD template of TMGEnc offers. The only user adjustable setting that has an impact on quality there is the motion search precision. I always use highest. It takes a lot of time but the results are OK for what VCD can be.
I don't know the movie you are talking about nor the quality of its DVD. IF the DVD has some chroma or luma noise already, the encoder will try to encode the noise, too. You might want to use some mild noise filtering in the advanced section. Its a powerful and effective filter but it takes a lot of processing time. I suggest you do a 60 second segment of your movie over and over again with different settings in noise reduction intesity over 1, 2 and 3 frames.
Ralf

[ya_jai]

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On 2001-07-08 02:56:31, ralfbeckers wrote:
I don't know the movie you are talking about nor the quality of its DVD. IF the DVD has some chroma or luma noise already, the encoder will try to encode the noise, too. You might want to use some mild noise filtering in the advanced section. Its a powerful and effective filter but it takes a lot of processing time. I suggest you do a 60 second segment of your movie over and over again with different settings in noise reduction intesity over 1, 2 and 3 frames.
Ralf

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If you can see my first post !!! I'm ripping CASTAWAY from DVD, so the quality of my source should be very good, right? Anyone out there had success on this movie?????

[Vejita-sama]

The problem is all the dark scences in Cast Away. I've made a lot of VCDs that look great expect for the dark/night scences (in which you can see blocks). The only thing tha I found that helps is setting motion search to high (or highest) and using 2-pass VBR with a high ave bit rate (eg. 2500).

If you want to fit it on 2 CDRs use a bit rate calculator to get the aveage.

I THINK the problem is that VBR works by trying to detect motion and then uping the bitrate as necessary. But the dark/night scences often have very little motion, so TMPGenc uses a low bit rate which for brite scences would be ok, but allows you to see all the blocks/grainyness(sp) if it's a night/dark scence. Anyway good luck.

[disturbed1]

I've got a great rip to 2.0 compliance (352x240 @ 1150). Tell me approx. what part in the movie (HH:MM:SS) and I'll email you a 5 second clip or so, then help you with the settings. Unless I've got bad eyes (could be).

[hitechjunkie]

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[Zak0]

I didn't rip my copy of CastAway, but it's at standard VCD bitrate and is about 100 megs too big to fit on 2 CDs. Since this movie is over 2 hours, I think you're going to have to live with 3 discs if you want standard VCD bitrate. Of course, if you're doing the rip yourself and have already decided to go with 3 discs, you might as well up the bitrate for an XVCD or get the higher resolution of an SVCD.

[disturbed1]

Disc one runs at 65:06, and disc two runs at 71:03. I cut the beging and end credits, even with those included the whole movie will fit on 2 80min discs at standard bitrate. Two cd's will hold a movie upto 156 minutes ~2:36:00 at standard bitrate. Cast Away's total run time is 143 minutes ~2:23:00.

[ya_jai]

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Hey hitechjunkie, Did I really say a bad thing? I just meant to say that I will not rip a new one if I cannot find any good setting. If you think so, I have to say SORRY to every member then.

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I've got a great rip to 2.0 compliance (352x240 @ 1150). Tell me approx. what part in the movie (HH:MM:SS) and I'll email you a 5 second clip or so, then help you with the settings. Unless I've got bad eyes (could be).
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Thank disturbed but I think I will try this time with 2 pass vbr like vejita said.

[ya_jai]

Oh guys, I forgot to mention that I got those blockiness only when I play with my APEX on TV. I have no problem at all if I watch the movie on my computer.