several SVCDs on -> DVD-R ??? possible ? How ?

[caipirina]

I searched, but did not find any solution on it ...

I have several SVCD files which all exceed 750 MB .. and where I am I cannot get 800 MB CDRs ... but I have plenty of DVDRs ... so .. with 3 movies, I'd rather fill one DVDR, which then hopefully plays as an SVCD on my DVD player, then wasting 6 CDRs ...

When I checked last, an 800 MB CDR cost actually more than a DVDR ... well .. cannot get that anyway here ..

the files are in bin/cue format right now ... i have not yet done mpeg extracting from that on a mac .. only PC ...

Thanks in Advance ..

P, lost in the south pacific ..

[galactica]

I searched, but did not find any solution on it ...

I have several SVCD files which all exceed 750 MB .. and where I am I cannot get 800 MB CDRs ... but I have plenty of DVDRs ... so .. with 3 movies, I'd rather fill one DVDR, which then hopefully plays as an SVCD on my DVD player, then wasting 6 CDRs ...

When I checked last, an 800 MB CDR cost actually more than a DVDR ... well .. cannot get that anyway here ..

the files are in bin/cue format right now ... i have not yet done mpeg extracting from that on a mac .. only PC ...

Thanks in Advance ..

P, lost in the south pacific ..

Keep looking
https://www.videohelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=155591&highlight=wizeman

By the way, you dont need 800 megabyte cd-rs for the svcd's Yes the mpeg file will be 795 megs but if you image those to .bin/.cue the .bin image will then be 805 and magically that fits onto a 700 meg cd'r using Missing Media Burner.
Its a standard procedure. so the 800 meg cd'rs are not needed.

You can get several svcd's onto a dvd-r I think its in the neighborhood of 3. been a long time since i tried it, but there is the tutorial.

You will need to extract the mpeg files and join them.

Extracting use VCDTOOLSX
Joining use mgtxwrap

Both off versiontracker.com

then follow the method.
Best of luck

[caipirina]

extra double thanks man !!! will try ...

was ready for n00b bashing ... but friendly people here it seems !!!

me go to versiontracker now

[galactica]

We were all nOOb's at one point in life. Hope it works out for ya.
Id say overall we are quite friendly and helpful here. At least I think so

you know where to post if you have problems.

[caipirina]

Galactica, is mgtxwrap

spelt right ??? i tried several permutations but could not get it on VT ... got that VCD tools thing though and getting missing media burner now .. and all that on crummy and restricted 56K ... ha ha

will try all day today getting that DVDR thing done .. how exciting

[galactica]

mpgtx GUI mpeg editor 1.4b4

sorry, forgot the P!

[havema-1]

SVCD (PAL/NTSC 480x576/480, 44.1 kHz audio) isn't compatible with DVD specs (720x576/480, 704x576/480, 352x576/480 for MPEG2 and 352x288/240 for MPEG1 with 48 kHz audio).

I prefer to encode 352x576/480, 720x576/480 or 704x576/480 48 kHz XSVCD because it should be quite easy later to concatenate and author them as DVDs.

Luckily my Pioneer 444 plays all those XSVCDs OK as long as the bitrate is lower than ~2500 kb/s. Philips 724 may be even better because AFAIK it accepts well over 2500 kb/s bitrates.

[galactica]

Thats one thing to consider. Although wizemans method is for 480x480 SVCD to dvd, the note not plays on all dvd players talks about this if i remember correctly.

Its totally player specific. I can just burn data mpeg dvd's and my player will play those just fine. I just string up a huge 4.3 gig mpeg file (usually 3 svcd's) and just note where they interchange by marking the min progressed. THen once i know that i hit my GO TO button and type in the min mark for each mpeg and it goes right to the mark

0.00 would be the first
78.50 for the 2nd and so on........ you get the idea. But I dont think all dvd players can play them like this.

[caipirina]

hey galactica !!! thanks for the info ... while missing media burner confused me at first, I got it to run and the results are great !!!

just how can it put 804 MB on a 700 MB disk ??? mind keep boggling !!!

now .. if i can only find a way to get those pesky AVI files on VCD ... i browsed around ... found frequent mention of ffmpgx (which i can't find on VT) ... but then again .. I am in a unique online situation ..

if you ever feel like .. AIM me at xaipirina7 ... would love to hear from you

P

[galactica]

http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/15473
thats ffmpegx on versiontracker. Not sure why it wasnt there for you!.

Glad you got MMB working, its really just a form of comression i think, its not like a data burn. The funny thing is if you then take that SVCD you burned, and image it back to your HD it will be well over 700 megs!

Anyway, there's the link,

How's the SVCD to DVD process working?!?

[havema-1]

> just how can it put 804 MB on a 700 MB disk ???

Data CD uses only 2048 of the 2352 B CD sector for "real" data -- the rest of the sector goes for error correction etc.

(XS)VCD uses 2324 of the 2352 sector for MPEG data, so compared to a data-CD a (XS)VCD holds 2324/2048 times more data at the expense of error correction. (2324/2048 x 700 MB = ~794 MB of MPEG data on a "700" MB CD).

The same way an audio-CD uses the whole 2352 B sector for audio but there is no error checking. (2352/2048 x 700 MB = ~804 MB of audio data on a "700" MB CD).

Because of this it is more useful to use the number of sector on a CD as a base for the calculations:

1x audio-CD speed is 75 sectors/s so a 74 minute audio-CD has 74 min * 60 s/min * 75 sectors/s = 333000 sectors (and a 80 minute CD has 360000 sectors). Usually the actual sector count on a given CD is slightly more and can be checked by many CD burning apps.

[caipirina]

Thanks for the link man ! No idea why it did not show up ...

How's the SVCD to DVD process working?!?

I am still running into trouble burning simple Data DVD-Rs on my brandnew machine using Toast ... i think there is something wrong with the install ..

But the SVCD trick sure lifted some of my pressure

[galactica]

Ok, well one step forward is always good!

hope you can get the dvd-r burning to work. What happens??? any error codes??