Instant Copy Error: File "CSS Copy Protected", but

[robinmthomas]

I am trying to back a movie and I used DVD Decrypter (in file mode) to extract the entire DVD to disc and then tried to use InstantCopy to remove the extra stuff so that I could fit it on 1 DVD.

But InstantCopy complains about the file being CSS protected. DVD Decrypter said was decryping and showed the key it was using. What does Instant Copy still think it is encrypted?

Thanks!

[robinmthomas]

Well, 100+ people looked at this and not a single response....any ideas...

[ember]

Are you sure you are browsing IC7 to the hard drive where you saved the decrypted VIDEO_TS files?

[robinmthomas]

Yes, and I have even ripped it twice with the same results.

[ember]

Have you tried playing the ripped VOB files in a MPEG2 player (such as PowerDVD)?

[Will Bailey]

I never had that problem using IC7...
Do u have the same problem with another backup software? If you're not looking for a complete backup (with extras and stuff), you should try DVD2One or DVDShrink, they are MUCH faster than IC7.

[robinmthomas]

I like IC7 because it remove extra features is super easy and I can preview each VOB before I delete it and IC7 deletes all related files cleanly.

I don't want to lose quality so I have stayed away from DVD2One and DVD2Shrink.

[MackemX]

using these settings HERE in XP works just fine for me

[VidGuy]

Also be careful that you're not holding one of the files open with another application like Media Player or IfoEdit - IC7 generically complains about CSS encryption if it can't read a file for whatever reason.

[Will Bailey]

I prefer DVDShrink's quality to IC7's quality, but I guess it's up to everyone to choose the method they prefer.

[MackemX]

I prefer DVDShrink's quality to IC7's quality, but I guess it's up to everyone to choose the method they prefer.

what quality?

from that statement I presume you are a movie-only fan?

what about the big boys like Saving Private Ryan, Gladiator, Pearl Harbour, Titanic etc?

do you honestly prefer DVDShrink to IC when you are talking about quality?

but then again, as you said, everyone is entitled to their choice

but in other issues the quality opinion disagreement regarding all backup tools is always due to the user's quality standards and the quality of image displayed by the setup used and you can have quite a few combinations so you will get a few disagreements

but as of yet no-one I know of no-one that has proven that DVDShrink produces better quality than IC, yet IC has been proven countless times to be better quality than DVD2One/DVD95Copy/DVDShrink and I believe those posts are also backed up with evidence rather than just comments

even I have posted obvious quality comparisions but some people still claim not to see differences and this is a perfect example of the range of different quality images that are produced by user's setups even using the same picture!

since you are stating you prefer the quality and you are not saying that it is better, I apologise if any offence is taken but I am talking to everyone not just yourself

[Will Bailey]

from that statement I presume you are a movie-only fan?

do you honestly prefer DVDShrink to IC when you are talking about quality?

No actually I am a full disk fan. I don't understand why you react this way. It's just a personal opinion, I'm not saying DVDSh is better for every movie and for everyone. I am just talking from my personal experience.

Yes, I do prefer DVDSh to IC, when I'm talking about quality. My player produces a clearer picture for DVDSh backups, but this is just my opinion. Plus, IC is slow as hell; if in 30 min. I can get a better or equal quality, I'm going to use DVDSh.
I think you checked my topic with the tests I've made using different progs. I said I think there is no ultimate backup software and once again, it's just my opinion. I actually use IC in the end because extras are more compatible when I play the backups in my DVD player. I have issues with extras when I use D2O and DVDSh. (on 3 different movies, as for now).

Btw, I do not want to prove anything but just share my experience with other users. I'm glad you stated at the end of your post that it wasn't aimed at me, because I just want to help other users, that's all.

[K2]

Hey you two
Are you not forgetting to help the person with the question?

[Will Bailey]

I gave him my advice just above. If he wants to keep trying with IC7, it would be interesting to know which movie he tries to backup (region, etc)and maybe some users encountered the same problem with that movie in particular.

Are you using the very last version of IC7?

[MackemX]

Hey you two
Are you not forgetting to help the person with the question?

stuff has been suggested for robinmthomas to try, so what's wrong with discussion till he replies whether he has had failure or success?

I have 101 questions I could ask but I have pointed him to the basics 1st by telling him to check his settings

If they don't work then I will advise something else

[robinmthomas]

Thanks for all the replies.

Other movies work fine using this method. I haven't backed up many movies, but this is the only 1 out of 10 I have done.

My settings are identical to the page that you linked to.
WinDVD can play the VOB files with no problem.

Is there a way I can tell if this is a DVD Decrypter or a IC7?
i.e. Can I tell definately if the copy protection is actually removed?

Also, could this be an anti-copy method or just a fluke?
The version of IC7 I am using is 7.0.1

[robinmthomas]

I think VidGuy gets the points, I verified that IC/DVD Decrypter wasn't running, but after a reboot it worked. So I am guessing that some thread was still locking the file and IC couldn't access it.

However, the weirdness doesn't stop, the movie appears to have 2 copies of Wide Screen (the case says it is just widescreen) and if I uncheck one of the movies, IC automatically unchecks the other as though they are part of a set.

Why these two exact (same length, aspect ratio, etc) copies of the movies be linked? And can I unlink them?

Thanks!

[MackemX]

it's because the two PGC's (Titles) will both refer to the same VOB ID's at some point or other

so if you remove one Title it will affect the other Title, so therefore they are linked

as to how much the Titles are interlinked you can check using IfoEdit

are you comfortable on how to do this?

[robinmthomas]

Nope, I am brand new to this. I just got my DVD burner last week.

Maybe InstantCopy was the wrong choice, but it seemed like the only choice that the focus was on not reducing quality but reducing content (i.e. leaving widescreen and skipping full screen).

I also liked the IC7 was a 2 step process with little manual intervention.
1 - Rip from DVD Decrypter and walk away for 30 min.
2 - Load into IC7, spend 5 minutes removing titles, and burn to DVD and walk away.


Is there a better tool which has the focus on quality and isn't terribly manual?

I can handle complicated -- I used to rip to Divx back when it took 15 steps and 15 different programs....

Thanks!