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  1. Member flaninacupboard's Avatar
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    Yes, malcolm in the middle is a TV series. this is shot using a camera. a camera uses *gasp* a lens. see my point?
    i said it was ridiculous because you said star wars didn't count because it's old (like they re-invented lenses in the last 25 years) so you want something one year old, and also because you asked for NTSC which has **** ALL to do with how a lens works.
    As such MITM is all i have on an NTSC DVD, i live in the UK. odd though that the -only- ntsc title i have (which remember is shot using a lens!) shows it up. within 8 or so minutes of the beggining of the program.
    i simply said Energy is a film maker, which he claims he is. i would hope he knows what he is doing. i do not claim to be an expert, and i do not claim to know a lot about photgraphy. if you asked to reccomend the best camer/lens/stock type for a giving lighting condition and speed, i couldn't. however i understand what lenses do, and the basic principles of photgraphy. i also carried out a media studies course looking at on screen composition (among other things) which relates to this thread, but obviously isn't specifically about photgraphy.
    As i said, any camera will react in that way to that situation. yes, a director could use a different camera, or use a close up shot, or hell, he could have blue screened hugh grant and super imposed him into the flat, but that camera in that position changing depths like that will always be the same. find any camera which is asked to change focus depths like that and the foreground and background cannot be in focus at the same time.

    The reason they didn't find another method of shooting the scene which ruined the movie (in your opinion) was because they -wanted- to pan across to marcus on the sofa. and doing that means changing focal depth. and doing that means the focus shifting. that's it.

    Why don't -you- find me one example where a camera is that close to two actors or objects and the same camera switches focus, but neither the foreground or background is out of focus. if you can find one, then maybe someone can tell you what has been done differently, until then i think the pics i have posted prove my point. oh, except they aren't NTSC...........
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  2. I intend on checking my DVD's just to see for my own purposes whether or not there is a scene which "closely" resembles the one in About A Boy. As I have mentioned on a couple of posts, I understand where you are coming from regarding "why" it happens, so to say that I should get a "HIGH SCHOOL" science book and read up on lenses obviously contributes nothing to the post other then nonsense.

    A science book isn't gonna discuss lenses unless they are on some type of Microscope. If you can tell me how Science and film making and cameras go together, i'd be thrilled to read it. Also mentioning how your girlfriend understands so amazingly fast is because she probably belongs in "MENSA." That's a club for extremely gifted individuals with IQ's off the chart by the way. But seriously, what does that prove or contribute? Absolutely nothing other then to say your girlfriend understands the cause of this issue, as well as I do...which still doesn't answer the questions I have asked.

    As for the MIM example you gave...I know it's interesting the the ONLY NTSC DVD you have is this one, however, if you read energy 80's 3rd post, you'll see why I said it doesn't hold much weight. I'll quote it.

    Indeed, a pull focus shot is used in just about every TV programme and film ever made. I do it a lot myself. Don't understand why some people are only cottoning on to it now.
    This statement would certainly include Malcolm in the Middle as one of just about "every" TV programs ever made, right?

    Being that I don't watch ANY TV shows, I have no clue how often this affect is present. However, I do watch a decent share of movies and have NEVER seen this affect on any others. That's why I would like to see just "ONE" example, and I mean from ANYONE, just showing where else this has occurred.

    Being that this happens ALL THE TIME, I don't think my request of a single NTSC movie are "ridiculous" by any means.
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