How to PROPERLY burn DVD2ONE DVD's using TOAST 6.0

[galactica]

The image it makes still need to be burned as another step correct?

Or does it make an image and burn it all in one step?

It just creates the image. Disk Copy or Toast must be used for burning.
The idea behind DVD Imager is that iDVD let's you burn a disk, but doesn't let you create a burnable disk image. That's a feature I wanted and DVD Imager gives it to me, sort of, by letting me easily make an image after I've burned a DVD in iDVD. But if you have created a valid DVD VIDEO_TS folder by other means, DVD Imager will let you quickly turn that into a disk image too.

ill give it a try. Would be interested to see how fast it is compared to say TOAST! Which is what I use to make my dvd-r into images. Just select COPY, go to FILE and SAVE AS DISK IMAGE. works every time. Quite fast too for dvd.

Will test it out. Thanks for the info.

[simonsez69]

Hi,

I have been a lurker for some time and want to thank you all for the information I have gained.

I have a little problem I was hoping you could help with....

I am able to backup and burn successfully using DVDbackup 1.3 , DVD2one, and Toast. The DVDs play in all of my home players.
However, the DVDs I am burning have many visual skips and sound dropouts in them while viewing in the DVD player. They play fine on the computer but once I burn them, they have the errors.
I have an Imac 94 17' with 768 f ram running os 10.2.6, Toast Titanium 5.1.1 and am using Movie copy only in DVD2one. I have been burning at 2x with the default ram cache set to 2mb.

What is the problem and how can I fix it?

Thanks, Mitch

p.s. I have never made a AUDIO_TS folder. Do I really need to? If so, what goes in there?

[Tallylite]

Galactica...

I told you I would let you know how well I did with your tutorial; It's an amazing piece of information. I have burned three disks with no skips,
dropouts...no problems at all. Your tutorial is better than the one provided by mushkin memory.
Thanks for all your help..
I'm sure thousands of people have benefited from the time you have taken to do this.

Tallylite

[galactica]

Thanks

[Percy Dovetonsils]

Just a note to say thanks for all the info!This has been working for me perfectly...I didn't think I could get it going but you made it very easy...you are a very kind and patient man,Galactica......

Spike

[galactica]

not a problem!

[caipirina]

I have used this tutorial many times very successfully ... in both 5 and 6 ... so .. thanks a lot Galactica ...

But I am running into something wierd and new ...

those pesky DS_Store or Desktop DB / Desktop DF files only show up when I hit the record button ... and i cannot remove them ...
when i still have the chance to hit "cancel" those files go back into hiding ... so .. i cannot remove them anymore ...

this has not happened before .. but now it happens in 5 and 6 .. in 5 i can still cancel, in 6 it already starts burning and i know i will have a coaster ...

P
here a screen shot (at least i am trying

[galactica]

actually, what it looks like is NOT that the .ds_store are coming back but rather your are just seeing the addition of desktop files in v5 of toast. I am pretty sure these wont do anything - ie cause coasters.

Can you tell me you get the same response in Toast 6?
If so can you post those screenshots???

[caipirina]

What came out of T5 sure was a coaster ...

in T6 it also happens that those 2 desktop files only show up once i started burning ... in 40 minutes i will know if i have another shiny frisbee.



What is puzzling is that I must have burned 50 DVDs in the last couple of weeks using t5 and t6 and that has not occured yet ... i was able to delete / remove / clear what i wanted and nothing else showed up once i hit record ...

cheers

[galactica]

after talking on iChat I still think you should contact roxio about this.
I am aware that this should not happen for dvd.

I never see desktop files being added after i hit burn. only on cdr data will i see that, and that can be turned off.

[terryj]

What came out of T5 sure was a coaster ...

in T6 it also happens that those 2 desktop files only show up once i started burning ... in 40 minutes i will know if i have another shiny frisbee.

cheers

Hi!
In Toast 6, in the Advanced tab as shown in your picture,
right below that, there should be a radio box
that is either checked or unchecked, that says
"Copy Desktop Database".
If you leave it unchecked, you should not see the file Desktop DB
show up in your burn.

To rid yourself of .DS store files, you can use Cocktail, .DS Store Cleaner,
or 20 or so other products from www.versiontracker.com.
I use Cocktail to remove the .DS store files ( version 2.21) and then
run the Pilot, BEFORE I do any burning on my main disc, as well as
the partitions from which my DVD2One Backups are stored, and when
I go to burn, there is no problems, and these files do not show up.

[galactica]

terryj
can you post a screenshot

I dont see this ANYWHERE on my Toast 6!!!

[terryj]

sure.

[galactica]

well yes..... for cd's
but what about dvd's!

the option dissapears as soon as you click DVD-ROM UDF

[terryj]

hmm...
ok I see that the option does disappear on DVDs.
A test I did this morning on BOAT TRIP
also put the .DS Store file there, but not the
Desktop DB. This is not suprising,
as I have re-used this partition about
5 or six times in doing DVD2ONE copies,
and have not yet had time to run
.DS Store cleaner, or Cocktail.

However, I can click on the file, and click the remove button,
and it goes away.

Since these files are no consequencs, I'm not understanding how they are affecting
the original poster's DVDs:

from Apple Mac OS X discussions:

"The file is created by the operating system and contains updated information on what is stored on the device. The "." that appears in front of the name is the Unix filenaming convention that makes that file invisible. If you see the file listed, you probably aren't booted into OS X or are using a different filemanger than Finder or have turned on the Finder's ability to see invisible files."

Since the toast window ACTS like a filemanager, I could see the files showing up there. But, since they are by nature invisible files,
the only way the could affect another (OS) is if they were made to be
VISIBLE?
this can be controlled in the System Preferences, by making it show
all invisible items as visible. I know for a fact you can set this option
while repairing permissions in Cocktail.

[galactica]

I agree it is odd that invisible files would inhibit the dvd from playing, but then again anything possible.
for some .ds_store files dont make a difference
for others they inhibit playing.

could just be his specific dvd player.

ah well, the problem was solved.
Quitting toast after each burn will make the next burn not have the desktop files.

wierd huh.

[terryj]

agreed.

[patent10021]

Hi

Toast 6.0 on my DP G5 with Panther is not letting me burn at 4X. I get sense key erros, illegal action.

The media is 4x of course. how can this be happening?

Thanks

[galactica]

did your G5 come with 10.2.8 and it worked fine then?
or has it always been like this since you got it?

[patent10021]

My G5 came with Panther. New install. Computer wasn't used before.

I have not yet used the finder burning tools, but I'd still like to know why this is happening.

Peace

[galactica]

typically those errors come with cheap media.
what is the brand of the 4x media you are using?

[patent10021]

Yeah, I have the nice Fujifilm DVD-R's. I've had good results in the past.

I got DP G5, Panther Toast 6.0.1.

Arrrgghhh !!!!!!!!

And I can't use the Finder burning cause its a Toast image file.

P

1X speed sucks!

[patent10021]

im an idiot...its fixed....damn defaults

[galactica]

glad you got it fixed

[patent10021]

I'll let you know what is was. Don't laugh :P

It was the buffer underrun option. I already knew about it but in Toast 6 when you uncheck it, it doesn't stay that way. Each time you close Toast it reverts back.

I thought it was staying on "unchecked" but it was always reverting.

God, so lame. lol

I love my DP G5 :P !!!!!!!!!

[chichow]

woah...so using Toast 6.0.1 - should i have under

MENU - recorder settings - advanced tab - buffer underrun prevention box checked or unchecked?

TIA

[galactica]

I would have it checked.
Be sure to update to the 6.03 version

[patent10021]

In my experience buffer underrun checks can cause bad burns just as much as good burns.

I am using a DP G5 with retail Panther and retail Toast 6.0.3 and DVD images do not burn at 4X when the box is checked.

I am burning DVD Studio Pro 2 image so maybe Apple has some type of protection that disables writing at 4X.

If you want to test different setups use "simulation mode" and you will see for yourself.

Peace

[chichow]

How can I figure our what I am doing wrong?!?!? ARGH!

Sorry, but I am sooooooooooooooooo frustrated.
I’ve got a couple of DVDs to burn by tomorrow. They have to go back to a friend.

System G4 1.25DP running 10.2.8.
Using DVDBackup 1.3 / DVD2OneX / Toast 5 and 6

I never had a problem. Followed the scripts. After tons of coasters (freaking crappy matrix media), was burning DVD np.

After upgraded to 10.2.8. Couldn’t burn anymore. Upgraded Toast 6. no dice. Btw Toast is working just fine with CD copies etc.

Sometimes I would see .ds store files. Downloaded Cocktail and got rid of them. Still no go.

So I followed the steps.
I don’t see any .ds files.
My burned Disc looks like
Disc title
Doubleclick leads to two directories: AUDIO_TS and VIDEO_TS
Audio_TS is empty. VIDEO_TS has all files: .buf .ifo and .vobs

Here are the errors that I am seeing :

I get a “Not Permitted” when trying to use the Apple player with the DVD auto-mounted when I insert the disc.

When I use the Apple DVD Player and go to file à open video_ts folder and open up the video_ts folder on the burned dvd, I get:
There was a system error. Could not detect a valid media file.

Using VLC, if I go to open file and go the video_ts folder on the burned disc, the disc plays just fine…menu and all.

Question: Earlier in the thread someone had suggested using the .ifo and .buf files from the original DVD. Why would this make a difference.

Question: How do I use Sim mode to see if the burn will be valid?
Right now I am using RW’s.

Question: Even after a quick erase using Toast: could there be something left on the RW preventing the proper DVD read?

Any more suggestions???

Galactica / anyone: can u help me? *sigh*

[galactica]

10.2.8 is an awful update. I bet its the update, if you can go back to 10.2.6

Question: Earlier in the thread someone had suggested using the .ifo and .buf files from the original DVD. Why would this make a difference.

not sure where that was discussed, it may help - but to be honest if the unburned video-ts folder does not play in apple dvd player, DO NOT BURN IT! you need to find out why they are not working, usually this is because you messed with the dvd format, ie removed things that should be there. how are you making these dvd's

are you doign anything other than just letting dvd2one process them? pulling .vob's out by yourself etc?

Question: How do I use Sim mode to see if the burn will be valid?
Right now I am using RW’s.

no point if you are using -rw to do sim mode. a rw disk can be rewritten so why do a simulation mode? if you want to just set it to simulatoin mode and go through the normal burn process, only difference is it doesnt burn anything!

Question: Even after a quick erase using Toast: could there be something left on the RW preventing the proper DVD read?

possible, but not likely. the full erase takes FOREVER!! but it may help.

Any more suggestions???

whats the problem again? coasters? by what definition? they dont play in your dvd player? does it support -rw disks? You really need to find out why the video-ts folder isnt playing in apple dvd player. vlc is WAY to forgiving with non standard dvd's so thats not a good thing to base it on.

tell me EXACTLY what you did from the start
1. put dvd in mac
then what?!?!?!?!