2 dvds to 2 dvds (not as easy it seems)

[tinkerbellsmyhoe]

ok heres the situation. i am backing up patton. there are two discs. the entire movie is on the first disc and there is a documentary on the second. rather than shrink the movie TOO much i would like to split the movie over the two discs and have the documentary on the second disc as well.
the second disc is just a dvd-5 with nothing BUT the documentary. so i dont want to use 3 discs for something that can fit very comfortably on 2 discs. ANY ideas or points in the right direction would be great. all the guides i've seen so far have just split ONE disc to TWO. not what im looking to do.
thanks in advance

[nerdboy69]

I would follow one of the guides to split the first disk to two.

You haven't mentioned a preferred tool, but what I would do from there:
- Demux/extract 2nd part of movie from disk2(new) using VOBEdit
- Use VOBEdit to demux/extract the documentary from disk2(orig)
- Use ChapterXtractor to get chapter mark times from both of the above (into DVD Maestro format for this example)
- Author using something like DVD Maestro which would allow you to keep all streams as is
- Have 2nd part of the movie as the First play item, with then last action being to display your new menu (which by the way you need to create)
- Have any menu button bring up this new menu, which then allows you to select the main feature or doco.
- Import chapter marks

[tinkerbellsmyhoe]

thanks for the reply. i wanted an opinion on this idea. i do have TMPGenc so....what if i just encoded the mpeg2's and then threw then on a dvd. would that be compliant in most DVD players? before i spent the next hour and overnight encoding i just wanted to know if this was the easiest way/worth it?

[tinkerbellsmyhoe]

maybe another idea?
i saw here:
http://ifoedit.wh.fr0zen.com/joinclip.html#joindbl
that you can use vobedit to join the vobs BUT....
since i am doing something a little different what if i used DVDSHRINK and picked 3/4 the movie and transcoded that thus creating its set of vobs and ifo info.
then did the last 1/4of the movie and let it do the same.
THEN, do the same thing for the documentary.
leaving me with three folders with video.
first folder(first 3/4 of movie) burn to dvd.
second and third folder use the vobedit technique? any feedback on this one?
im not sure if the resulting ifo info from the dvdshrink process will allow this type of thing since they arent the originals but if someone has given this a shot. give me a shout!

[nerdboy69]

Yeah, that should work (your latest suggestion that is - the first thought of just putting the mpeg2 on the DVD won't work with many players). Just keep in mind you won't have a menu using that method, so you need to use a title search with your DVD player to find the doco.

[tinkerbellsmyhoe]

i was just thinking about throwing the documentay at the end of the movie on the second disc that way it wont be all that hard to find.
thanks for the backup.

[tinkerbellsmyhoe]

yup...it worked using the dvdshrink, vobedit, and then ifoedit.
no problems(for once).

[az1284xx]

I did Patton with DVDShrink. Just CROP the movie (Part 1) then add the 2nd part of the Movie and the Documentry onto disk 2, I think disk 2 was about 3.8gb.

[tinkerbellsmyhoe]

yup...i did the same exact thing

[tinkerbellsmyhoe]

has anyone had problems with tora tora tora? i tried using the same method here with it and i got a createvmg error in dvdshrink on just the documentary...
to get around it was a pain in the arss. i had to use dvdshrink for the first half up to intermission, then dvdshrink on second half, then dvd2one for the documentary then the vobedit stuff to get the second disc proper.
doing it right now actually. anyone have a workaround to that error? i tried searching extensively for it. seems no one else has had it.
ALSO, if i were using nero to burn. do i NEED to use vobedit to join the clips together? or can i just rename the second vobs and let nero put them in order?
thanks.