Label Problems

[icemanatvcd]

I did about 10 DVDr without any labels. They seemed to run fine on my DVD player. Then I put labels on them (Matte not Gloss). Now most of the freeze in the middle between chapter 8 and 11. I tried the discs on three different players, still the same problem. Labels I used were Neato, good quality and all centered properly. Now I am stuck with about 10 discs which I can not play. Funny thing is that some discs run fine with the labels!

What are solution to my problems? I could take them off and somehow get rid of the glue which I am not too keen on.

Would glossy sticker help?

I am tottaly conufsed here.

Thanks

[Bob W]

You know I have labeled over 300 DVD's with the same labels and they all play just fine in the three players I have at home. Do a search on the forums here as there was a tread where a method was discussed on how to remove the labels without any damage to same.

[icemanatvcd]

Could this be media problem. These are Laser Discs with printable surface. These were the cheapest I could find. The funny thing is that a lot of discs just run fine with labels.

Thank you.

[Faustus]

Yes it could be a media problem but if you look on the forums some you'll see there are lots of people who advise against using labels on DVDs for the exact reason.

Personally I never have tried labels but after all the complaints decided to not even bother. Sharpie works for me.

[Super Warrior]

I label ALL my DVDs and they still work fine.I think most of those people out there that complain,just don't know how to properly apply the labels.You can't just take the stomper and stomp the label on the DVD and be done with it.

Afterwards you have to carefully rub all around the surface to smooth the label out and make sure everything is flat and that there are no crumpled spots that might make the weight uneven.Causeing the disc to spin oddly in the player.

If you don't do that and there are tiny crumpled spots,then ofcoarse you'll have problems playing your DVD.It won't be able to spin cleanly in the player because of the uneven weight distribution and thus cannot be read properly by the laser thingy.And that is where your skipping will occur.

[icemanatvcd]

Thanks for that Star Warrior. I am very very careful with labels. The ones I am having problems have no bubbles or other problems. Infact few of the people who have seen it can not tell the difference between the original and mine. Surface is flat as it possible, it is not that is sticking out like Jennifer Lopez's fat ass! There are no tiny tiny crumpled spots. I am little confused that some discs with labels will play fine and other won't. I am trying to differeniate between the two.

I was thinking may be it has something to do with the discs becuase they had printable suface (I don't know why they bother with this, how many people would be stupid enough to print straight on the disc?). The top suface seems to be little thicker than other discs. At the same time as I said before some discs work fine.

I agree with you that there must be proper way to do it. Maybe Gloss finish may be the way to go. I know they cost three times as much as the matte finish. I don't know yet.

Any help from other users would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you.

[starwarrior29]

I have a couple hundred vcds labeled with no problems, but I have held off on labeling my dvds because of the problems I have been reading about. I have been just using a sharpie pen for the dvds(doesn't look as nice as the labels though )

[icemanatvcd]

starwarrior29, you have not seen my hand writing! It is shocking! I like to label my DVDs, apparently I did some SVCD a while back and had no problems with them. There has to be some technical explaination for this. All I saying is I need some reason behind it.

[KTH]

One thing that you might try is to print your labels then applying them to the disc's before actually burning the disc. Casio for example recommends printing on disc's before writing any data to them when using their CW-50 disc printer (Quote shown below). This kind of makes sense since the disc balance should be the same when it is played back versus when it was written. If the label is applied after writing the disc the disc balance will change and here lies a potential cause of problems. I have tried this on one disc so far and the disc works fine. I will have to try this with more disc's as well as see how these disc's hold up after prolonged periods of time.

[icemanatvcd]

KTH, thank you for a very interesting approach. I will give that a try next time. I don't how will that make a difference as all discs play fine in PC. How could it be balanced for PC and not for DVD player? I guess there is a different mechanism used for PC DVD Roms and Writers.

[KTH]

Icemanatvcd, another option might be to get a printer that can print on CD/DVD media. Epson just released a new Model the Stylus Photo 900. This unit sells for $199.00 which is cheaper than the $349.00 for the Epson Stylus Photo 960 (The other printer from Epson that can print on Ink Jet printable media). These to me are a lot better than the Casio CW-50 which can retail from $129.00 to $179.00 and can only print on CD's or DVD's, plus they can only print in blue, red, black, or silver. Also you can only print with one color at a time and have to change the ribbon to print in a different color. The plus side to the CW-50 is that it's a thermal printer so that it can print on more types of media. I've listed the link to the new Epson printer below. Hoped this helps!!!


http://www.epson.com/cgi-bin/Store/consumer/consDetail.jsp?BV_SessionID=@@@@1991200225...0&oid=31061922

[icemanatvcd]

Thanks for that KTH. I am happy with the printer I have at the moment. If I do buy printer in the future I would consider it for sure! I am just wondering though how effective is printing directly on the DVD?. What if you stuff up or label does not centre? Have you actually tried it or anybody else for that matter.

Thank you your link and search.

Other problem is that if you keep spending money it may work out cheaper to buy another original.

[KTH]

Icemanatvcd, There are some older post on this forum that has other people discussing label problems and DVD printing. You should try and do a search and see if they discuss anything that would be of help to you. Below I've listed links to several of the pages that have examples of printed DVD's on them.


https://www.videohelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=138166&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highligh...inter&start=40


https://www.videohelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=153231&highlight=dvd+printer

[icemanatvcd]

I followed KTH's advise and applied the labels before burning. I did three discs and one of them got toasted (I think the fault was due to defect in the media, appeared to had some marks). The other two discs work fine, no freezing so far. May be it is the way to go.

I will try some more using the same method and post results. Let's hope I come up with positive results. I wonder if anyone else use the same method. I would like to hear their comments.

Thank you to KTH once more.